April 25, 200719 yr also, Willingham is like 0 for his life vs Hudson... Amezaga Uggla Ramirez Cabrera Ross Boone Olivo Borchard Olsen No clue why managers insist upon leading off guys who stink just because they are small and speedy. Anyway, even though this isn't what he meant, Marlins2003 did say he thought Ramirez would hit 3rd at some point this season. So kudos to you.
April 25, 200719 yr Get Hermida healthy and he can lead off. As I'm sure its been said before, I could think of worse things than a lineup of Hermida, Uggla, Hanley, Cabs, Willy, Jacobs, Olivo, De Aza/Ross/Amezaga/Borchard Either lineup is fine with me, when all are healthy. If Amezaga can have some good ABs, make the pitcher work and make contact, I dont have a problem with this for this game... definitely dont want to see it over an extended period of time. With the way Boone is swinging, why not lead him off during this time of injuries?
April 25, 200719 yr why not Amezega? we dont have anyone else there to leadoff. He's capable of a decent OBP and can take the extra base in the right situations. There's other reasons for having him there...for example he has excellent baserunning skills. Most of time he won't run you out of an inning. That has value in front of the big sticks.
April 25, 200719 yr Well, having Ramirez bat ahead of Cabrera favors Hanley more so than Cabs, no doubt. He will most definitely get pitches to hit, even with a hobbled Miggy.
April 25, 200719 yr I say ride the coattails of Boones recent hot-streak and lead him off for this game. It's either been all or nothing with him to start the season, so I say give him the chance while hes finding grass and not the other teams gloves.
April 25, 200719 yr At first glance, I thought it was a good move to get more speed at the top and hopefully more rbi opportunities for Hanley and Miguel. But Alfredo does strikeout a lot, and Hudson is a strikeout pitcher. I think Amezega will have 2 K's tonight and will probably be pinch hit for late in the game if it is close.
April 25, 200719 yr i don't like the idea of giving hanley and cabrera less at bats true, but think of the kinds of pitches hanley will see with miggy behind him.
April 25, 200719 yr Hanley doesn't need even better pitches to see. He is hitting fine. I'd prefer to leave those pitches to Uggla.
April 25, 200719 yr At first glance, I thought it was a good move to get more speed at the top and hopefully more rbi opportunities for Hanley and Miguel. But Alfredo does strikeout a lot, and Hudson is a strikeout pitcher. I think Amezega will have 2 K's tonight and will probably be pinch hit for late in the game if it is close. Amezega has one of the lowest strikeout rates on the club and has never been someone who strikes out too much. What a stupid move. His OBP this season so far is 100 points lower than it should be to warrant leading off. How are you able to call this stupid and make that judgement after 49AB?
April 25, 200719 yr In fairness to Fredo, he is hitting a respectable .278 batting first (5/18) this season.. and looking at this career splits, is a much better hitter leading off (.284/.331) than anywhere else in the lineup. I'm interested to know why people dont like the move.. is it because you'd rather see someone else leading off not named Hanley (with this group) or because you want Hanley leading off? I would obviously guess the latter since there arent any other viable options.
April 25, 200719 yr Thank you Ramp for the kudos and when Miggy gets healthy I wouldn't be surprised, in fact I'm hoping Ramirez hits BEHIND Cabrera. For those who think Ramirez will get less at bats, while I understand leading off you usually get the most, if the lineup becomes more productive he may see as many at bats but for another reason. We'll see in a couple of hours but if AA doeshis thing, Uggla coming up with Ramirez and then Cabrera isn't the worst 1-4 in the world. Need to do something to combat Hudson.
April 25, 200719 yr Amezaga isn't an established enough ballplayer to use career numbers for justification here. Why can you use 49AB from this young season, but I cant use 300AB from last season where he hit 297/358 vs RHP? I dont follow. Who would you like leading off today? I dont see why Amezega at the top is a such a big issue...a "stupid" move? c'mon Maybe he wont deserve to be there at some point, but I think for now it's fine.
April 25, 200719 yr Amezaga isn't an established enough ballplayer to use career numbers for justification here. But 49 ABs is enough? Look, I'm not all for this move, (i'd rather whether the storm with hanley leading off for now and make the move when and if Hermida is healthy and if he can prove to get on base at a high clip).. but that was a pretty contradictory statement.
April 25, 200719 yr it's a fair point, but 49AB still doesnt make him unworthy of a few more shots there from his 2006 numbers...especially when alternatives are lacking.
April 25, 200719 yr At least Ross is in the lineup well, he's 217/280/478 against RHP...and his splits are fairly established. He's good for some pop against either hand though, so that's good. Hudson is a very tough matchup. We really gotta pray Olsen gets his sh*t together today.....a bunch of the Braves are really good at hitting LHP.
April 25, 200719 yr dumb. i'd rather give somebody good the extra AB. Who? We don't have anybody better who's an appropriate leadoff hitter. . . I do question's Fredi's decision to tinker with the lineup the way this team has been scoring runs.
April 25, 200719 yr Thats fine.... i respect your opinion, just trying to stick up for him a little. Like I said, I'd rather try this experiment when Hermida is fully healthy. But, it seems obvious to me Fredi is just seeing how Hanley will react to the lineup change for future reference.. (and it should be very interesting). With him seeing how he handles it (and trying to get more pop in the middle), I would have rather have tried Boone leading off (i know his K/BB is terrible but I say ride the hot bat while its going). But I think Alfredo leading off for this experiment isnt the worst thing in the world. He's shown he can make the pitcher work, which in itself is nice, and that he can draw a walk. If he can do that tonight, he should be an okay job.
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