Ramp Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 BALTIMORE -- The story of Curt Schilling's famous bloody socks from the 2004 playoffs is turning into a bloody mess after a prominent broadcaster claimed one of Schilling's teammates acknowledged the blood wasn't real. Schilling repeated the feat in Game 2 of the World Series and the bloody sock from that game was sent to the Baseball Hall of Fame in Cooperstown, N.Y., after the Red Sox won their first series title since 1918. A Hall of Fame official confirmed to ESPN's Cold Pizza on Thursday that the sock in the Hall is from the World Series. The Hall of Fame's Web site, however, says that the Hall has the bloody sock worn by Schilling during Game 6 of the ALCS. Fast-forward to Wednesday night's Mid-Atlantic Sports Network's telecast of Red Sox-Orioles. In the bottom of the fifth, Orioles play-by-play man Gary Thorne said on the air that he had been told by Red Sox catcher Doug Mirabelli that the substance was paint, not blood. "The great story we were talking about the other night was that famous red stocking that he wore when they finally won, the blood on his stocking," Thorne told broadcast partner and Hall of Fame pitcher Jim Palmer. "Nah," Thorne said. "It was painted. Doug Mirabelli confessed up to it after. It was all for PR. Two-ball, two-strike count." Two innings later, according to media reports, Thorne explained Mirabelli had told him the story "a couple of years ago." "Go ask him [Mirabelli]," Thorne said. After the game, Mirabelli flatly and angrily denied Thorne's story. "What? Are you kidding me? He's [expletive] lying. A straight lie," Mirabelli said, according to The Boston Globe. "I never said that. I know it was blood. Everybody knows it was blood." "It gets stupider," Schilling added, according to the newspaper. "I got the 9-inch scar for you. You can see it. ... There are some bad people in your line of work, man." Red Sox manager Terry Francona also questioned Thorne's version of the story. "What Schill did that night on the sports field was one of the most incredible feats I ever witnessed," Francona said, according to The Globe. "[Thorne's remarks] go so far past disappointing. Disrespectful to Schill, to his vocation. I'm stunned. "I am just floored. Schill takes his share of shots, and this one is so far below the belt that I'm embarrassed and I wish somebody would have had the good conscience to ask me," Francona said, according to the newspaper. Man... I have no clue why Gary Thorne would make something like this up... And I don't believe he did would be interesting if they did some studies on that sock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammerhead Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 God, I thought this topic was dead already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 what a bloody mess. I doubt Schilling did something like this, but stranger things has happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 what a bloody mess. I doubt Schilling did something like this, but stranger things has happened. I agree.... I just don't know why a respected sportscaster like Gary Thorne would make this up either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is so retarded. Thorne is a hack (probably one of the worst known pbp guys going, imo) and obviously lied for God knows what reason. Edit: Actually, I shouldn't even call it lying. I didn't hear the audio of what he said but how often do sports announcers and color guys talk casually in the booth? I believe that is what happened here and Thorne just said something during the course of the game with little thought to what the 'consequences' would be. But the bottom line is... We won. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TarHeel324 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 This is so retarded. Thorne is a hack (probably one of the worst known pbp guys going, imo) and obviously lied for God knows what reason. But the bottom line is... We won. Next. Actually, I shouldn't even call it lying. I didn't hear the audio of what he said but how often do sports announcers and color guys talk casually in the booth? I believe that is what happened here and Thorne just said something during the course of the game with little thought to what the 'consequences' would be. Honestly, I could see the blood being placed on the sock to furthur get into the Yankees heads. If he did do that, kudos to him for trying to gain a mental advantage. If he didnt, then even more props to him for playing thru his ankle bleeding. Either way, youre right. This is a non-issue. Sox win, Yanks lose, move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 To your point, Heel, I don't think the bloody sock would have been getting in the Yanks head. He was horrid in his first start that series and I don't think Curt had the foresight to predict he would have a legendary performance so he needed to boost that even more by 'painting' his sock red. But I get what you mean. Those who think this: could not have bled through a sock either a. has never had stitches or b. has their tin foil hat on too tight. Theo had the best response to this and pretty much solidifying his 'BAMF' status forever in my book with: "I'm the GM of the team, not Jerry Springer. I couldn't give two [expletives] about what was on his sock, I care that we won the game. The rest, and Gary Thorne, is just noise." :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy42Jack0 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 i would find the blood on the sock to be much more believeable if it was anyone but curt schilling...the guy is an attention whore and this would further that cause, that said...who cares anymore? that was going on 3 years ago...gary thorne, i think you are awesome, but you are beating a dead horse here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'll say this much, when i saw the sock in cooperstown over a year later, it was still bright red, usually the oxidization turns it more brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I'll say this much, when i saw the sock in cooperstown over a year later, it was still bright red, usually the oxidization turns it more brown. I saw quite a few pictures taken by people more recently and it definitely has browned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I find this story hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mets_bs Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I fail to see why this merits all this talk. It's a sock, it had no bearing on the outcome of the game outside of firing up his teammates. It's authenticity is meaningless unless you are the poor idiot who paid a million bucks for it. Thorne is stupid for bringing up a 2 and a half year old story and the Sox are idiots for getting so worked up about it (demanding a retraction, are you kidding me?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 26, 2007 Author Share Posted April 26, 2007 on the replay of the game today, Thorne's comments were edited out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Thorne is stupid for bringing up a 2 and a half year old story and the Sox are idiots for getting so worked up about it (demanding a retraction, are you kidding me?). So you'd be for announcers not being held accountable for what they say on air and have no problem with them being able to make things up as they see fit? What this stems from is dumb, but the accountability needs to be there for the supposed professionals. I don't think the Sox are getting 'so worked up' as Epstein and Lucchino said their .02 and dismissed it. a retraction of more or less slander about 2 people is not ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Oh come on, of course it was real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 I dont know whether or not this is true but Thorne basically threw Mirabelli under the bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDigital Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Here's the audio from Gary Thorne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fan Posted April 26, 2007 Share Posted April 26, 2007 Big deal. LOL @ how worked up some people are getting over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passion Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Thorne apologized in the pre-game apparently per my brother the O's fan. Dead issue now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierremvp1 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Let's get out the DNA kits to check this out. "If the sock doesn't fit, you must acquit." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 This never should've been a story. I didn't really care about the bloodiest sock then and I certainly don't care now, but at least Millar was semi-entertaining by painting his sock red for the game tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 I think I might do that to one of my socks and wear it to work tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mets_bs Posted April 27, 2007 Share Posted April 27, 2007 Thorne is stupid for bringing up a 2 and a half year old story and the Sox are idiots for getting so worked up about it (demanding a retraction, are you kidding me?). So you'd be for announcers not being held accountable for what they say on air and have no problem with them being able to make things up as they see fit? What this stems from is dumb, but the accountability needs to be there for the supposed professionals. I don't think the Sox are getting 'so worked up' as Epstein and Lucchino said their .02 and dismissed it. a retraction of more or less slander about 2 people is not ridiculous. He wasn't calling injury fake or the original ALCS sock fake -- he specifically isolated the WS sock that Curt used to promote the charity. I don't see anyone that is purposefully being made to look bad by his comments. With that said, they were stupid comments that were blown out of proportion by the media and the Red Sox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted April 27, 2007 Author Share Posted April 27, 2007 Thorne apologized, it's over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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