Official Wrestling Discussion

[geemoney]

So is JoMo next to get hit with the wellness policy suspension?

 

Nope, he's expected to be done with the company.

[Michael]

So is JoMo next to get hit with the wellness policy suspension?

 

Nope, he's expected to be done with the company.

Really now?

That's unfortunate

[Dr Beinfest]

Thank God.

[Michael]

Thank God.

 

I like JoMo

[Dr Beinfest]

I very much dislike everything about his character.

[Michael]

He wasn't a great talker, but he was entertaining, I thought, with the move set he brought.

[JetsMania]

So is JoMo next to get hit with the wellness policy suspension?

 

Nope, he's expected to be done with the company.

 

YES! He was terrible to watch.

[Michael]

Has anyone seen these?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzdJHeb9ns

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lnOsIucloZc

 

A lot of people are saying Chris Jericho's return, since Year 2012 2 [2 (x3)] January (J) [naturally forming Y2J] but ... IDK. This is an interesting promo form.

[geemoney]

I'd guess Undertaker myself. Last I read, WWE and Jericho hit a few snags in contract negotiations.

[Michael]

Someone actually connected a line in the second promo to a Fozzy lyric, so who knows. [it was the exact same line, word for word]

[Schnellders]

Those videos certainly seem more geared towards The Undertaker than Jericho.

[Michael]

HORNSWOGGLE WINS A 20 MAN BATTLE ROYAL! DREAMS DO COME TRUEEEEEEEE!!!!

[Michael]

AND HE CAN TALK NOW!!!!!!

 

MY LIFE IS COMPLETE!!!!

[Schnellders]

Yeh so me and Eve Torres are now friends on Twitter. She appreciates my humour

[Michael]

Yeh so me and Eve Torres are now friends on Twitter. She appreciates my humour

 

She lol'd at a tweet.

Does not = friends.

 

However, if she is, get her numba ;D

[Schnellders]

Yeh so me and Eve Torres are now friends on Twitter. She appreciates my humour

 

She lol'd at a tweet.

Does not = friends.

 

However, if she is, get her numba ;D

DONT SAY THAT DAMMIT!

 

She gave me a shout out and likes my humour. In my eyes I only need to give her a time and place and she will accept a date.....

[Michael]

Yeh so me and Eve Torres are now friends on Twitter. She appreciates my humour

 

She lol'd at a tweet.

Does not = friends.

 

However, if she is, get her numba ;D

DONT SAY THAT DAMMIT!

 

She gave me a shout out and likes my humour. In my eyes I only need to give her a time and place and she will accept a date.....

Hmm.

Do it, Schnellders! Be the kid off the streets that wins the title!

[Schnellders]

Goldust in a festive jumper.....

[Michael]

RAW tonight!

 

Itbegins2012 part 3?

 

Also, when in the blue hell is Brodus Clay making his RAW debut?

[geemoney]

TONIGHT: The build to TLC continues. After laying out former friends R-Truth and John Morrison in consecutive weeks, who’s next for The Miz? Also, who will CM Punk face at TLC for the WWE Championship? And did Roddy Piper’s comments to John Cena last week sink in? Also: I’m fighting a stupefying sinus headache, so if my recap is shorter than usual, you’ll know why.

 

 

-WWE Open.

 

-RAW Open.

 

-Fireworks inside the arena in Tampa, Florida, then Michael Cole introduced himself and Jerry Lawler.

 

-John Cena came out. He recapped last week’s Piper’s Pit. He pandered to the audience by saying it’s they’re right to cheer or boo him or anyone else. He said fan reactions are not the big deal, but the big deal is the slap from last week. Not Piper’s slap, but the referee’s hand slapping the mat three times to signal CM Punk defeating Alberto Del Rio. He said the only thing bigger than him vs. Rock at ‘Mania is for the match to have the WWE Title on the line. Alberto Del Rio interrupted.

 

He argued that he deserved another title shot. Del Rio showed a clip of Punk using the exposed turnbuckle to win. Del Rio said Punk should’ve been DQ’d and he should be champion. Vickie Guerrero’s voice boomed “excuse me!� and she walked out with Dolph Ziggler. She said Ziggler deserves a title shot and he ran down his credentials. Cena joked about Ziggler’s past gimmicks and Cole force-feeding Ziggler’s “show-off� nickname. Cena suggested a new nickname: “jerk-off.� Ziggler said he backs it up every night, but Cena pointed out that Ziggler won’t fight Zack Ryder for the US Title. Ziggler said the title shot should go to “everyone’s favorite hashtag heel, and that’s me.� Miz then came out.

 

He put down the other contenders while pimping himself up as the 2011 Superstar of the Year (Slammy’s are next week!). John Laurinaitis walked out. He said tonight, each of the men will face a Smackdown superstar, and if they win, they’ll be in a WWE Championship match at TLC. They’ll also do a contract signing with CM Punk tonight. Cena is in a special match – a social experiment, if you weeel. He told Cena to see him later tonight for details. For the others, if they win, they’re in. Miz’s match is first, against Randy Orton. Ah, the old “I deserve a title shot, no I do!� start. At least something unique came out of it.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

(1) The Miz vs. Randy Orton

Back-and-forth start, but Orton with a clothesline, Garvin stomp, then suplex. Big boot by Miz showed a lot of light as he took over on offense. Back-breaker by Miz for a near-fall. Miz countered Orton’s patented DDT, but ran into a scoop slam on the floor at ringside. At 3:59, Wade Barrett’s music played and he came out. The distraction led to Orton being counted out.

 

Winner: Miz, via count-out, at 4:29.

 

As Orton charged the ring post-match (after chasing Barrett up the ramp to get counted out), Barrett attacked him from behind, knocking him to the ground.

 

-A graphic was shown with Miz and Punk as two men so far who will fight for the WWE Title at TLC.

 

-Up next, an important announcement regarding the WWE Network. That’s quite the incentive to keep the fans tuned in.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

-After a shot of the Tampa skyline, a video aired on the WWE Network. It hyped first-run programs and matches, plus reality shows and classic footage.

 

-John Laurinaitis was texting backstage with Zack Ryder suggesting legends for the WWE Legends’ House. He brought up Iron Sheik, Hillbilly Jim, and Papa Shango. Laurinaitis said Ziggler has complained that just because Ryder has signatures on a petition doesn’t mean he’s worthy of a title shot. Cena walked in with Ryder sunglasses, hair, and headband. He acted goofy (goofier than usual anyway) and Laurinaitis wanted to put Cena in a match with a popular talent…Zack Ryder. Laurinaitis tried to drive a wedge between the two and said the WWE Universe wants to see it. He said if Ryder wins the match, he’ll get a future US Title match against Ziggler. And if Cena wins, he’ll be in the WWE Title match at TLC. That’s actually good psychology from Laurinaitis. He walked off as the two future opponents stared at each other.

 

-David Otunga was talking to someone off-camera. It was Kevin Nash, and he’ll face Triple H at TLC in a Ladder Match. Nash said he doesn’t do Ladder Matches. Otunga said a sledgehammer would hang above the ring, and the guy who gets it will be able to use it until there’s a winner. Otunga said Nash has a match tonight, but Nash seemed uninterested in that.

 

-Cole said this would be Nash’s first match on Raw in eight years.

 

-Ricardo Rodriguez introduced Alberto Del Rio. Del Rio’s match is next.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

(2) Alberto Del Rio vs. Daniel Bryan

Bryan had his ribs taped after the cage match last Tuesday. Del Rio went right after the ribs. Bryan with a few hope spots, but Del Rio hung Bryan out to dry on the top rope. Cross arm-breaker finished it.

 

Winner: Del Rio, at 1:46.

 

-An updated graphic was shown with Del Rio along with Miz and Punk.

 

-Alicia Fox, Eve Torres and Kelly Kelly were walking backstage. Their match is after the break.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

(3) Eve Torres & Kelly Kelly vs. Beth Phoenix & Natalya

A video on Nattie and Beth aired during their entrance, but it was interrupted by the mystery Youtube video, then it continued. The announcers did not address the interruption. Heels showed off their power. As Beth jawed with Eve, Kelly rolled her up for the win.

 

Winners: Kelly and Eve, at 1:10.

 

-They previewed John Cena vs. Zack Ryder using WWE ’12. The match is next, and the graphic helpfully tells us it’s a “Social Experiment.�

 

[Commercial Break]

 

(4) Zack Ryder vs. John Cena

They did some mat-work early, looking for crowd reactions. Crowd was certainly buzzing, but they didn’t sound solidly behind one or the other. Ziggler and Vickie were shown watching on a monitor backstage. Swinging neck-breaker got a near-fall for Ryder at 3:36. Lots of rest-holds. Tornado DDT for two at 4:57 for Ryder. Rough Ryder avoided and Cena hit his signature moves. Ryder got out of an AA and booted Cena in the corner. Ryder set up his finish, but Cena turned it into the AA for the win.

 

Winner: Cena, at 6:43.

 

Ryder complained to Cena after the match that it was his one shot at the US Title. He was quite upset, but Cena tried to cool him down, then he walked out of the ring and up the ramp.

 

-The TLC WWE Title match updated things with Cena’s image.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

-Slammy Superstar of the Year nominees: Mark henry, the Miz, John Cena, Randy Orton, CM Punk, Alberto Del Rio.

 

-John Cena walked in on a Johnny Ace-David Otunga confab and Cena was upset. Cena demanded Ryder get a US Title shot. Ace said he gave him a shot to beat Cena to fight for the title. Ace said Ryder has one more chance tonight…if Cena gives up his WWE Title match at TLC. Cena backed out and made an impassioned pro-Ryder speech.

 

-Cole and Lawler talked about the ramifications of the above decision. We’ll find out who Ryder faces to get a shot to challenge for the US Title, as the match is coming up next. This would be a good time to re-debut Brodus Clay, no?

 

[Commercial Break]

 

(5) Zack Ryder vs. Mark Henry – No DQ, No Count-Out Match

David Otunga gave instructions for the match type before they started. Henry had his ankle taped up, but dominated the first minute. At 1:40, Ryder connected on the running corner boot. As Henry shoved him away, Cena walked to the ring to cheer on Ryder. Cena then got into the ring and gave Henry the AA, put Ryder on top, and the pinfall was made.

 

Winner: Ryder, at 2:21.

 

-Vickie came out of the GM’s office. Ziggler asked if she got him to reverse the Ryder win. “What do I even pay you for?� he asked. She did find out Ziggler’s opponent: Sheamus. Jack Swagger assured Ziggler he’d be at ringside. The two men argued, but then shared a laugh. Ziggler and Vickie walked off and Swagger didn’t look happy.

 

-Nash was walking backstage. He makes his in-ring return next.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

-Cole and Lawler read reactions to the Ryder angle off their iPad.

 

(6) Kevin Nash vs. Santino Marella

Nash brought a sledgehammer with him to the ring. He set it on the announce table. Nash squashed Santino with his usual set of moves.

 

Winner: Nash, at 1:04.

 

Nash feigned using the sledgehammer on Marella after the match.

 

-CM Punk was talking t Evan Bourne backstage. Ziggler’s match is next.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

-Cole plugged Tribute to the Troops.

 

(7) Dolph Ziggler vs. Sheamus

Sheamus used his power, but Ziggler dropkicked him. Sheamus with ten forearm shots to Ziggler’s chest for only a count of two. Fameasser with Sheamus on his knees for a two-count. Ziggler backed out of a Celtic Cross when Ryder ran out. That distracted Ziggler and Sheamus hit the Brogue Kick for the win.

 

Winner: Sheamus, at 4:59.

 

Ziggler was on the receiving end of the Rough Ryder post-match.

 

-WWE Title match is now a Triple Threat, with Punk vs. Miz vs. Del Rio. Contract signing is coming up.

 

[Commercial Break]

 

-Alberto Del Rio (and Ricardo!) and The Miz were in the ring. Johnny Ace walked out. Ace said so many exciting things are happening on Raw, “like the introduction of Brodus Clay.� Ace announced Cena vs. Henry for next week. CM Punk was introduced. He said the contract signing is the biggest cliché in WWE, as the table and chairs were moved out of the way. Punk said there hasn’t been a peaceful contract signing since Wrestlemania III. Ace said that, for the first-time ever, the WWE Title would be defended in a Triple Threat TLC match. Punk didn’t seem to think it’d be a problem. Miz talked up his recent beatings. Punk insulted Miz’s appearance. When talking about what he did to John Morrison, Ace interrupted to wish Morrison the best in his future endeavors. He said he’s the most must-see WWE Champ of all-time. Punk said he’s only concerned with being the best in the world.

 

Del Rio said he’s the best in the world. He said he’s won everything in 2011, and he’ll end the year by becoming champion. Punk said if Del Rio says it’s his destiny, he’s going to start drinking. Miz said he and Del Rio aren’t friends but they can agree that no matter what happens, Punk won’t walk out as champion. Miz signed the contract. Del Rio did the same. And so did Punk. “Once I sign this, we can get to fighting, right?� Ace made the official announcement. He wished them all good luck as the fans chanted for a fight. He asked a WWE.com photographer to come in and take a picture of everyone. Punk was not having it. “Even your contract signings are boring!� Punk said if you want something done right, you’ve got to do it yourself. He attacked Miz and Del Rio. Miz escaped, but Ricardo helped Del Rio. Miz came from behind and attacked Del Rio though, allowing Punk to hit the running knee. Bulldog through a table. GTS for Miz. Punk celebrated with the WWE Title as Ace looked on from the stage with...no real reaction.

[Schnellders]

Definately thought Ryder's opponent would be Brodus Clay.

 

Also, so many short matches on Raw last night!

 

Who will Cena face at TLC?

[geemoney]

Who will Cena face at TLC?

 

There's still time to get him in the title match...even though the contract was already signed.

[Michael]

For those who believe the "It Begins 2012" promo is Undertaker, he's rumored to not be returning til after Royal Rumble.

[Schnellders]

While everyone expects Kane to come back and beat up Mark Henry, I think he will actually go for the Big Show then go on a monster heel rampage since he will be masked.

[Michael]

While everyone expects Kane to come back and beat up Mark Henry, I think he will actually go for the Big Show then go on a monster heel rampage since he will be masked.

 

Kane's been face before with... out his face.

However, this will be interesting.