I think it is way to harsh. Sometimes a players manager is a good thing. Look at the Sox, Tito doesn't take a guy out if he is slumping, he leaves faith in them and lets them rebound. Also, why is it his fault if he has a bunch of guys who swing for the fences. Maybe the hitting coach should of work on hitting. The manager makes game decisions, and as far as that goes he can only do so much in game. He keeps the team positive and keeps the team together which is important of a manager.

BooYaa!

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I got bored of the old "+1", so this was my new form of agreement.

Well BooYaa! to you my friend.

I think it is way to harsh. Sometimes a players manager is a good thing. Look at the Sox, Tito doesn't take a guy out if he is slumping, he leaves faith in them and lets them rebound. Also, why is it his fault if he has a bunch of guys who swing for the fences. Maybe the hitting coach should of work on hitting. The manager makes game decisions, and as far as that goes he can only do so much in game. He keeps the team positive and keeps the team together which is important of a manager.

 

I did agree with some of the info but the players seem to like Fredi...I think that is imporant.

 

Not really. The Cubs liked Dusty Baker. He was still a horrible manager.

I think it is way to harsh. Sometimes a players manager is a good thing. Look at the Sox, Tito doesn't take a guy out if he is slumping, he leaves faith in them and lets them rebound. Also, why is it his fault if he has a bunch of guys who swing for the fences. Maybe the hitting coach should of work on hitting. The manager makes game decisions, and as far as that goes he can only do so much in game. He keeps the team positive and keeps the team together which is important of a manager.

 

I did agree with some of the info but the players seem to like Fredi...I think that is imporant.

 

Not really. The Cubs liked Dusty Baker. He was still a horrible manager.

 

That's a terrible analogy, considering Fredi is the complete opposite.

I think it is way to harsh. Sometimes a players manager is a good thing. Look at the Sox, Tito doesn't take a guy out if he is slumping, he leaves faith in them and lets them rebound. Also, why is it his fault if he has a bunch of guys who swing for the fences. Maybe the hitting coach should of work on hitting. The manager makes game decisions, and as far as that goes he can only do so much in game. He keeps the team positive and keeps the team together which is important of a manager.

 

I did agree with some of the info but the players seem to like Fredi...I think that is imporant.

 

Not really. The Cubs liked Dusty Baker. He was still a horrible manager.

 

That's a terrible analogy, considering Fredi is the complete opposite.

 

How is he the opposite? Both are considered player managers. I'm not saying Fredi is a horrible manager, I'm saying that being "loved" by the players doesn't make you a great manager.

I think it is way to harsh. Sometimes a players manager is a good thing. Look at the Sox, Tito doesn't take a guy out if he is slumping, he leaves faith in them and lets them rebound. Also, why is it his fault if he has a bunch of guys who swing for the fences. Maybe the hitting coach should of work on hitting. The manager makes game decisions, and as far as that goes he can only do so much in game. He keeps the team positive and keeps the team together which is important of a manager.

 

I did agree with some of the info but the players seem to like Fredi...I think that is imporant.

 

Not really. The Cubs liked Dusty Baker. He was still a horrible manager.

 

That's a terrible analogy, considering Fredi is the complete opposite.

 

How is he the opposite? Both are considered player managers. I'm not saying Fredi is a horrible manager, I'm saying that being "loved" by the players doesn't make you a great manager.

 

 

He's the opposite, considering Baker let his pitchers throw 120-130+ pitches (Prior, Wood), while Fredi's problem (at times) is that he takes 'em out too early. I'd rather have Fredi's philosophy, considering we have one pitcher coming back from Tommy John, and one coming from a torn labrum, to be honest.

Another problem for Gonzalez is that he hasn?t made any in game decisions to try and remedy these recent struggles. For some reason, the Marlins skipper rarely moves runners or tries to hit and run. It?s an old saying in baseball that you have to be aggressive and put the pressure on the defense. Instead, the Marlins have been waiting back for the 3-run home run. That strategy was working in the first half when the Fish were crushing homers at a faster pace than anyone in baseball, but it has backfired of late. A manager must find ways to get his team back on track. Again, Gonzalez has taken a wait and see approach, and it has not worked.

 

Now that makes alot of sense. He just complained about the team not hitting and now he complains because Fredi dosen't try more hit and runs?? Maybe this writer likes to see strike em out/throw em out double plays.

 

Just a bashing blog. A day off and a 10:00 PM start give some folks way too much time on their hands.

As the saying goes, the team win, the manager gets the credit, lose, he gets the blame, Willie Randolph was love by the players, he is home looking for his next job.

We fans tend to have a very short fuse with players that are slumping.

If it were up to us, there would be a revolving door whirling wildly in the club house, with drastic daily changes in the bullpen and starting lineup. That can't be good.

 

Managers are more patient. They understand that slumps are part of the game. They know good players, even superstars, have them and work out of them. Their job, together with the rest of the coaching staff, is to help the players make adjustments, both physically and mentally, to improve their game.

 

Fredi and his staff know more baseball than all of put together It is a matter of philosophy and style and the talent he has available that determines how he applies his knowledge in a specific situation. We may not always agree with him, but let us admit that the manager is often not given credit for decisions that work and is unusually criticized when they don't.

 

This season the Marlins were supposed to really stink it up. They haven't. And despite all of our complaints, I predict that Fredi will be the NL manager of the year.

agree 100% on several of the points in this article

 

+++++1000!!!!

So who gets the credit for the Marlins not losing 100 games as predicted?

I don't love or hate Fredi but can we just stop with this. The Marlins have not been hitting the ball. Not Fredi's fault. "Why hasn't Fredi tweeked the line-up.?" " Why doesn't he bench ______ (fill in the blank)?". Please stop! It's not like we have Ryan Braun or Adam Dunn sitting on the bench. The pitching has been ok except for two bad innings? Manso and his hysterical minions are idiots.

 

 

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I can't wait for the front office to swallow their pride and fire Fredi. Just because we've been doing ok doesn't mean there hasn't been a problem at the helm. I was at the Cubs game on Friday and he lost them the game that day. Sorry if you guys want to keep smelling Fredi's jockstrap fine but Fredi is not the guy for this team. You players need discipline and old players need a let loose kind of manager. This is why Girardi was a great fit here and is a terrible fit in New York.