November 1, 200322 yr According to a local Texas newspaper, the Boston Red Sox and the Texas Rangers have discussed a deal that would send Alex Rodriguez to the Red Sox in exchange for Nomar and prospects. Story: MSNBC.com With the Texas Rangers willing to listen to offers for Alex Rodriguez, one of those may come from the Boston Red Sox. The Fort Worth Star-Telegram reported a deal that would send Nomar Garciaparra and prospects to the Rangers for Rodriguez has been discussed. The Red Sox first would need to trade Manny Ramirez to free up salary. The Baltimore Orioles may be interested in Ramirez and there is even talk the Yankees might be interested in trading Jason Giambi for the outfielder. If the Red Sox can?t dump Ramirez or even pitcher Pedro Martinez, the Star-Telegram said a deal for Rodriguez won?t happen. The New York Times had reported Friday the Rangers were considering trading Rodriguez. A source told the Times the highest paid player in baseball is not being actively shopped by the Rangers, but the team would listen to offers. Texas has seven years and $179 million remaining on Rodriguez?s 10-year, $252 million deal. By trading the All-Star shortstop, who led baseball in home runs the last two seasons, the Rangers could free themselves of $25 million per season, the Times reported. Rodriguez can veto a trade to any team and the Times reported that he would not accept a trade to a National League team. That rules out the Mets, who were Rodriguez?s first choice as a free agent three years ago before eventually signing with the Rangers. The source told the Times that the shortstop would accept Boston, Anaheim, Baltimore and the Yankees as possible destinations. Though Rodriguez comes with considerable financial obligations, a Rangers official told the Times he expects Rodriguez to be playing for another team next season. The Star-Telegram said Rodriguez has always had a desire to play on the East Coast and, during the Rangers? trip to Boston earlier this year, spoke highly of the passion that surrounds the Red Sox. Garciaparra has one year left on his contract and is scheduled to receive $11.5 million. The Star-Telegram said if the Rangers acquired Garciaparra for one year and did not re-sign him, they would free up a substantial amount of money to spend on pitching. The newspaper said the Rangers are expected to have interest in pitcher Kerry Wood if the Chicago Cubs don?t sign him to a long-term extension this winter. Two sources told the Boston Globe this week that Garciaparra and future bride Mia Hamm plan to make their home in Texas. That makes the proposal even more possible. The Star-Telegram said, although the Red Sox don?t have young pitching to trade, they do have three top minor league prospects. At the top of the list would be Double A catcher Kelly Shoppach, a Fort Worth native and Brewer High School graduate. Also of interest would be pitcher Jorge De La Rosa, shortstop Hanley Ramirez and third baseman Kevin Youkilis, the newspaper said. Tom Hicks, the Rangers? owner who gave Rodriguez his big deal, spoke with his shortstop after the season about the team?s plans and reaffirmed their commitment. But Scott Boras, Rodriguez?s agent, told The Dallas Morning News in September that Hicks had made a commitment to surround Rodriguez with a competitive team and that cutting payroll, as Hicks said he had ?no choice but to do,? would go against that. To make a trade more realistic, an executive with another team said, Rodriguez would have to restructure his contract or the Rangers would need to pay a large chunk of it, bringing the annual value down to about $15 million, the Times reported. But the official, who had spoken with the Rangers, said that Boras was unwilling to redo the contract and that Hicks would not pay for any of Rodriguez?s contract, offering instead to accept a bloated contract from another team.
November 1, 200322 yr If they make that trade, Boston will win the World Series (unless they clear payroll to make that trade) How much does Nomar make? I'd think it's in the 10-15 million range
November 1, 200322 yr i dont think it's worth it. why give up arguably one of your biggest crowd favorites for a guy who can hit 20 more HR but costs an extra $11.5M? nomah got $10.5M this year, A-rod got 22's even if they do manage to dump off manny, i dont think they'd jump for A-rod.
November 1, 200322 yr I don't think that's going to happen, 'cause on Friday ESPN radio talked to Boras and he said A-Rod probably wouldn't be traded to anywhere like the Red Sox. So I don't see that happening, Red Sox needs to trade more than just Garciaparra for A-Rod, they have to trade pitchers too (Rangers said they need pitching, 'cause its their big weakness).
November 1, 200322 yr My sister in Boston keeps hearing that Nomah will be going to LA to be closer to his wife to be Mia Hamm....
November 2, 200322 yr I can't really see ARod in a Red Sox uni. I can't really see him in a Ranger uni, either. He'd look best in a Marlin uni, we all know that. If Boston can do this, they need to get it done.
November 2, 200322 yr That will be the biggest deal in a long time. The 2 best Short Stops. I dont think Texas would trade him.
November 2, 200322 yr I dont think Texas would trade him. Why wouldn't they? They save $10 Mill to use on pitching, and with that talented young line-up, the step down from A-Rod to Nomar wouldn't really matter.
November 2, 200322 yr If Manny is moved.... This deal occurs. The key is Manny. The Red Sox lose out though, unless they can strike gold in the free agent market finding some bat for less than 1.5 million. Dont be surprised if something like this occurs. PS...Tom Hicks failed miserably in this 'experiement' of his....hockey and baseball are not the same, its a lot harder to buy a winner in baseball than hockey. PSS...Scott Boras remains one of the biggest jackasses in sports.
November 2, 200322 yr unless they can strike gold in the free agent market finding some bat for less than 1.5 million. Dont be surprised if something like this occurs. Theo Epstein pulled it off last off-season with Millar, Ortiz, Walker, Mueller. I'm sure he can do it again.
November 2, 200322 yr I dont think Texas would trade him. Why wouldn't they? They save $10 Mill to use on pitching, and with that talented young line-up, the step down from A-Rod to Nomar wouldn't really matter. lol the last time they saved 10 mill for pitching they got chan ho park
November 2, 200322 yr If Manny is moved.... This deal occurs. The key is Manny. The Red Sox lose out though, unless they can strike gold in the free agent market finding some bat for less than 1.5 million. Dont be surprised if something like this occurs. PS...Tom Hicks failed miserably in this 'experiement' of his....hockey and baseball are not the same, its a lot harder to buy a winner in baseball than hockey. PSS...Scott Boras remains one of the biggest jackasses in sports. its the same thing either way. they will still suck.. arod for manny and nomah basically. they will get weaker now if they add arod and keep manny and only lose nomah, then they get better.
November 2, 200322 yr its the same thing either way. they will still suck.. arod for manny and nomah basically. they will get weaker now if they add arod and keep manny and only lose nomah, then they get better. are you sure? i wasnt sure about that. bottom line...manny and arod will not both be putting on a boston uniform last year.
November 2, 200322 yr Author I agree. To have two players making nearly a combined $50 million a year would be insane. If Manny is moved, A-Rod might show up.
November 2, 200322 yr Author Boston would likely have A-Rod now with his long-term deal than Nomar with his contract expiring after '04.
November 2, 200322 yr i do not think this deal is going to happen anymore. The only way that this deal would have occured would be if someone would of taken manny ramirez and his contract. there is no way that the red sox can have both A-Rod and Manny!!!!
November 2, 200322 yr i think this would be a good deal for the red sox if they are able to move nomar and ramirez because it would free up a lot of money even though a-rod does make over 20mil a year but ramirez makes about 17mil and nomar makes about 15mil. So its a good move. Only thing i like nomar in a red sox uni since the redsox are my 2nd fav team. :thumbup
November 2, 200322 yr i think this would be a good deal for the red sox if they are able to move nomar and ramirez because it would free up a lot of money even though a-rod does make over 20mil a year but ramirez makes about 17mil and nomar makes about 15mil. So its a good move. Only thing i like nomar in a red sox uni since the redsox are my 2nd fav team. :thumbup nomar made 10.5 mil this year, a-rod made 22 mil. this deal would definitely not help the sox free up more $$
November 2, 200322 yr i think this would be a good deal for the red sox if they are able to move nomar and ramirez because it would free up a lot of money even though a-rod does make over 20mil a year but ramirez makes about 17mil and nomar makes about 15mil. So its a good move. Only thing i like nomar in a red sox uni since the redsox are my 2nd fav team.? :thumbup nomar made 10.5 mil this year, a-rod made 22 mil. this deal would definitely not help the sox free up more $$ If they moved Manny yes, because the two combined would stand to make 32 mil this season I believe.
November 2, 200322 yr i think this would be a good deal for the red sox if they are able to move nomar and ramirez because it would free up a lot of money even though a-rod does make over 20mil a year but ramirez makes about 17mil and nomar makes about 15mil. So its a good move. Only thing i like nomar in a red sox uni since the redsox are my 2nd fav team.? :thumbup nomar made 10.5 mil this year, a-rod made 22 mil. this deal would definitely not help the sox free up more $$ If they moved Manny yes, because the two combined would stand to make 32 mil this season I believe. the "deal" i'm referring to is the deal in the title of this thread. yes, having another team claim manny helps the sox with payroll regardless, but it's not the trade we're talking about here. trading nomar for a-rod, the "deal" here, doesn't help with salary in any way. it's a bad idea.
November 2, 200322 yr no its not because to make this deal they need to get rid of both Manny and Nomar so they are saving money. even if manny is not included in the deal.
November 2, 200322 yr no its not because to make this deal they need to get rid of both Manny and Nomar so they are saving money. even if manny is not included in the deal. .... i'm going to stop arguing, lol if they dump off manny, they have more money to spend. period.
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