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Why not talk to the Pirates or Padres?

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I know that Jeffrey Loria is a cheapskate but when his team has a chance at the trade deadline he sometimes spends more money then anyone would have thought. Either of these teams offer one-stop shopping if the Marlins are willing to part with what it would take to get these kind of players. Freddy Sanchez and Matt Capps would be great fits for the Marlins. Sanchez is the ideal #2 hitter and he could play 3B planting Bonifacio either on the bench or in Pittsburgh. Capps would give the Marlins a legit closer but not really a shutdown one. The Padres would likely be willing to move Heath Bell and Kevin Kouzmanoff if the price were right. Everybody's punching bag (Jeremy Hermida) would likely be part of either of these kinds of deals. So would you make a move like this? Or more importantly would the Marlins' front office have the guts to pull the trigger on something like this? The division is for the taking but I don't think the Marlins have enough to stand pat.

Freddy Sanchez- $6.25 million

 

Matt Capps- $2.425 million (arbitration eligible I believe after the season)

 

Your answer.

 

Also, Matt Capps sucks, period.

Freddy Sanchez- $6.25 million

 

Matt Capps- $2.425 million (arbitration eligible I believe after the season)

 

Your answer.

 

Also, Matt Capps sucks, period.

 

 

 

A 25 year old reliever with a career 3.27 ERA/1.1 WHIP in 244 appearances sucks?

Freddy Sanchez- $6.25 million

 

Matt Capps- $2.425 million (arbitration eligible I believe after the season)

 

Your answer.

 

Also, Matt Capps sucks, period.

 

 

A 25 year old reliever with a career 3.27 ERA/1.1 WHIP in 244 appearances sucks?

Hes not as good as Matt Lindstrom thats for sure.

Freddy Sanchez- $6.25 million

 

Matt Capps- $2.425 million (arbitration eligible I believe after the season)

 

Your answer.

 

Also, Matt Capps sucks, period.

 

 

A 25 year old reliever with a career 3.27 ERA/1.1 WHIP in 244 appearances sucks?

Hes not as good as Matt Lindstrom thats for sure.

 

i'd take capps over lindstrom in a heart beat.

Freddy Sanchez vests for 2010 at something like $8 million if he gets to 625 +/- at bats and less if he is on the All-Star team. Conceivably if the Marlins felt the need he'd be someone to consider for 2009 but with 2010 hanging out there there's no chance they take on that obligation.

Freddy Sanchez- $6.25 million

 

Matt Capps- $2.425 million (arbitration eligible I believe after the season)

 

Your answer.

 

Also, Matt Capps sucks, period.

 

 

A 25 year old reliever with a career 3.27 ERA/1.1 WHIP in 244 appearances sucks?

Hes not as good as Matt Lindstrom thats for sure.

Wait, seriously?

How do you know that Beinfest hasn't talked to these teams? This looks like a thread at the Mets or Phillies board, where everyone lives in magic land and assumes their team can land any baseball player if their GM wasn't so lazy.

We don't need relievers. I'm serious. We have plenty of guys. This could change by July 31st, but right now we have a ton of solid relievers.

 

What we need is Mark Teahen. A lefty bat that can play multiple positions giving Fredi endless lineup possibilities. Plus, he's not a rental as he is 6th year arbitration eligible next year. He makes about $1.6 million the second half of the season. Let's say you trade Hermida for him, and the $1 mil he gets the second half. You're basically adding under $1 million in salary with the exchange. And then you demote De Aza, and call up Maybin. For KC, that's a younger player, with more upside, who makes less money, who they control the rights for 2 years instead of 1. Furthermore, Alex Gordon is coming off the DL soon so Teahen is going to be pushed to the outfield again regardless. Meaning they don't really need him if they can get something else that makes more sense.

 

Your team looks like this. And if there are injuries, or performance issues, or whatever, Teahen can easily shift to literally any position on the field besides C or SS, and we have Gaby Sanchez lurking in AAA.

 

vs RHP OPS

 

C - Baker .758 (Career .827)

1B - Cantu .728 (Career .772) or Gload .826

2B - Uggla .736 (Career .837)

SS - Hanley 1.047

3B - Teahen .862

LF -Coghlan .774

CF - Maybin .847 (AAA)

RF - Ross .783

B - Bonifacio (.571), Helms (.500), Gload (.826), Paulino (.647), Carroll (.536)

 

vs LHP

 

C - Paulino .764

1B - Cantu .915

2B - Uggla .838

SS - Hanley .831

3B - Bonifacio .729

LF - Carroll .970

CF - Maybin .937 (AAA)

RF - Ross .988

B - Teahen (.696), Helms (.671), Gload (.513), Baker (.606), Coghlan(.559)

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Besides versatility I see Hermida and Teahan as almost equal players. You must love these Billy Beane guys like Teahan but he has never lived up to expectations. Why not try to get a impact player?

Besides versatility I see Hermida and Teahan as almost equal players. You must love these Billy Beane guys like Teahan but he has never lived up to expectations. Why not try to get a impact player?

 

Because Loria is not going to add $7 million for half a season of Matt Holliday.

 

A guy like Teahen, or De Rosa before he was traded, is a significant upgrade to the Marlins both offensively and positionally as they can play everywhere. It's not an 'impact' guy, but who cares. It's an instant upgrade. And it won't cost us Stanton/Dominguez/Morrison/etc which is very important.

Besides versatility I see Hermida and Teahan as almost equal players. You must love these Billy Beane guys like Teahan but he has never lived up to expectations. Why not try to get a impact player?

 

Because Loria is not going to add $7 million for half a season of Matt Holliday.

 

A guy like Teahen, or De Rosa before he was traded, is a significant upgrade to the Marlins both offensively and positionally as they can play everywhere. It's not an 'impact' guy, but who cares. It's an instant upgrade. And it won't cost us Stanton/Dominguez/Morrison/etc which is very important.

 

 

Hermida is doing just fine against RHP.

 

Trading Hermida for Teahen doesn't make us a better team this year. Considering we're 1 game back in a weak division...I don't like the move.

Hermida is doing just fine against RHP.

 

Trading Hermida for Teahen doesn't make us a better team this year. Considering we're 1 game back in a weak division...I don't like the move.

 

It absolutely makes us a better team.

 

You first should familiarize yourself with Teahen, who is very Hermidaesque with a huge year, and then has followed it up with 'under performance.' This year, he's over an .850 against RHP and well out hitting Hermida overall. Second, Teahen can play everywhere which is PERFECT to help Bonifacio, Coghlan, and (assuming a Hermida trade) Maybin, so he could step in for any of them at any time if they struggle. It makes us better by 'demoting' Bonifacio to a 2-3 day a week starter at most, creating room for Maybin, Teahen hits more than Hermida, Maybin hits more than Bonifacio, and it gives us much needed versatility. Which is a word I hate, see signature, but for a team counting on multiple rookie/first year players, we are in a unique situation where that matters.

 

Of course, if you think Gaby Sanchez will immediately hit, bring him up for De Aza and send EB to the bench. But it would be nice to get a young veteran to come in and help stabilize the lineup and infield. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

Hermida is doing just fine against RHP.

 

Trading Hermida for Teahen doesn't make us a better team this year. Considering we're 1 game back in a weak division...I don't like the move.

 

It absolutely makes us a better team.

 

You first should familiarize yourself with Teahen, who is very Hermidaesque with a huge year, and then has followed it up with 'under performance.' This year, he's over an .850 against RHP and well out hitting Hermida overall. Second, Teahen can play everywhere which is PERFECT to help Bonifacio, Coghlan, and (assuming a Hermida trade) Maybin, so he could step in for any of them at any time if they struggle. It makes us better by 'demoting' Bonifacio to a 2-3 day a week starter at most, creating room for Maybin, Teahen hits more than Hermida, Maybin hits more than Bonifacio, and it gives us much needed versatility. Which is a word I hate, see signature, but for a team counting on multiple rookie/first year players, we are in a unique situation where that matters.

 

Of course, if you think Gaby Sanchez will immediately hit, bring him up for De Aza and send EB to the bench. But it would be nice to get a young veteran to come in and help stabilize the lineup and infield. You're kidding yourself if you think otherwise.

 

I know who Mark Teahen is. That's not, at all, the problem to me.

 

It all depends which Maybin we're getting. Considering the struggles in April + the fact he's still a young rookie being thrown into the middle of a playoff race, that is not a for sure thing. And unlike his supporters, I'm not sold on Brett Carroll being Hermida's everyday replacement (and knowing your intelligence, I'm sure you think the same).

 

It does give us more options, I guess.

 

If Maybin comes back up and struggles again, I guess with Teahen on the roster, you have the option of calling up Gaby to play 3B...and with Teahen's versatility he can go to RF.

I know who Mark Teahen is. That's not, at all, the problem to me.

 

It all depends which Maybin we're getting. Considering the struggles in April + the fact he's still a young rookie being thrown into the middle of a playoff race, that is not a for sure thing. And unlike his supporters, I'm not sold on Brett Carroll being Hermida's everyday replacement (and knowing your intelligence, I'm sure you think the same).

 

It does give us more options, I guess.

 

If Maybin comes back up and struggles again, I guess with Teahen on the roster, you have the option of calling up Gaby to play 3B...and with Teahen's versatility he can go to RF.

 

Exactly. It's spreading the wealth and lets the players decide who plays where. A little competition is a good thing.

 

And I see no reason why Maybin can't do what McCutcheon is doing in Pittsburgh. It's nothing crazy, but a high 700 OPS isn't asking for a lot for a guy like Maybin who walks and has some pop.

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