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Cishek optioned to AA

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PS if the move really is to fix something mechanical then it just shows how much our pitching coaches suck so they better hope it's somthing else. I disagree with the move FWIW 

 

​Honest question, why do you disagree with the move? Or what would you have done instead? He was given ample opportunities to correct his issues in real game settings. You'd just keep running him out there and letting him keep failing? ...wait... are you Frisaro????

 

 

​Honest question, why do you disagree with the move? Or what would you have done instead? He was given ample opportunities to correct his issues in real game settings. You'd just keep running him out there and letting him keep failing? ...wait... are you Frisaro????

 

If it's mechanical let him work it out in blowouts. There was no reason to put him in that tie game the other day so Frisaro is full of shit on that one and overall Frisaro is full of shit. His Ramos tweet is stupid as fuck. 

 

 

Ultimately, like a lot of people have said here, Cishek should have been traded etheir at mid way point last year or before this year. Closers are stupid. 

 

​closers are overrated but they aren't stupid.

 

 

and cishek wasn't getting you anything special as a trade chip.  maybe one good prospect, which granted is better than nothing, but Cishek was never a dominant closer.  Good yes, but he was never along the lines of a Chapman or Kimbrel.

 

Soria is better and got traded to the tigers for a reliever prospect who is fairly OK and an average starting pitching prospect.

 

 

​closers are overrated but they aren't stupid.

 

It was stupid to pay Cishek that much money is more what I meant for a team that can't even pay Haren and Gordon's salaries this year  :p  

 

 

It was stupid to pay Cishek that much money is more what I meant for a team that can't even pay Haren and Gordon's salaries this year  :p  

 

​that is true.  and its bullshit that we "can't" pay Haren and Gordon.  We very clearly can.  Don't want to is the more appropriate term.

 

Its unreal to me that its been 4 years in this stadium now and we are still one of the lowest payrolls in baseball and nobody seems to notice.

 

 

​that is true.  and its bullshit that we "can't" pay Haren and Gordon.  We very clearly can.  Don't want to is the more appropriate term.

 

Its unreal to me that its been 4 years in this stadium now and we are still one of the lowest payrolls in baseball and nobody seems to notice.

 

​No argument from me on above. Still & forever miffed we basically sold prospects to the dodgers in the dee trade. 

 

 

Here's the thing about Frisaro. He is a propaganda machine. Go back thru his timeline and only a moron would believe some of the crap he puts out there. If he's doing this, its at the request of someone else. My guess is the FO is blaming the fans, but don't want to do it directly. Ive watched his tweets enough to know

 

 

Here's the thing about Frisaro. He is a propaganda machine. Go back thru his timeline and only a moron would believe some of the crap he puts out there. If he's doing this, its at the request of someone else. My guess is the FO is blaming the fans, but don't want to do it directly. Ive watched his tweets enough to know

 

​Blaming the fans for what exactly?

 

 

​Blaming the fans for what exactly?

 

​Cant answer that. But what I do know is that Frisaro puts out what the FO wants out

 

 

Here's the thing about Frisaro. He is a propaganda machine. Go back thru his timeline and only a moron would believe some of the crap he puts out there. If he's doing this, its at the request of someone else. My guess is the FO is blaming the fans, but don't want to do it directly. Ive watched his tweets enough to know

 

Lol it's funny that he's blaming the fans.  They should only be cheering the team after 12 straight years of not just missing the playoffs but being embarrassingly incompetent  followed by a horrible start to this yeae

 

 

Here's the thing about Frisaro. He is a propaganda machine. Go back thru his timeline and only a moron would believe some of the crap he puts out there. If he's doing this, its at the request of someone else. My guess is the FO is blaming the fans, but don't want to do it directly. Ive watched his tweets enough to know

 

​front office blaming the fans for the players' product on the field? I can believe that. because everyone in their minds will get the blame but the players. im buying into the FO being a clown place as well.

 

 

​front office blaming the fans for the players' product on the field? I can believe that. because everyone in their minds will get the blame but the players. im buying into the FO being a clown place as well.

 

​I know it sounds ridiculous, but that is Frisaro's job

 

 

Lol it's funny that he's blaming the fans.  They should only be cheering the team after 12 straight years of not just missing the playoffs but being embarrassingly incompetent  followed by a horrible start to this yeae

 

​Well the FO can't blame the manager anymore since they are the manager so I guess the fans are now the reason why Latos velocity sucks :p

 

 

​But he seems to be going against the FO on this move (for once)

 

​I don't see how this is going against the FO.....just because they did it, doesn't mean they wanted to. Why did it take so long?

 

and the reason was to "get him out of the spotlight."

 

What spotlight are they referring to? The guy hasn't been closer for 2-3 weeks

 

 

 

​I don't see how this is going against the FO.....just because they did it, doesn't mean they wanted to. Why did it take so long?

 

and the reason was to "get him out of the spotlight."

 

What spotlight are they referring to? The guy hasn't been closer for 2-3 weeks

​I thought the reason was the fix the "mechanical issue" that is causing a drastic decline in his velocity?

 

 

​No, you don't know that.  You assume that and incorrectly I may add.

 

​so you think he honestly believes what he puts out? Hed have to be pretty delusional

 

 

I'm now looking forward to Ramos' first blown save to see Frisaro's "I told you so" on Twitter. What an idiot this guy is.

 

 

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