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Sorry [uSER=5078]@pollyvonwog[/uSER], hope you aren't too sad

 

 

Will they ever let him go home on off days at least? Sucks to force the guy to remain inside the bullpen the entire season. 

 

 

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Will they ever let him go home on off days at least? Sucks to force the guy to remain inside the bullpen the entire season. 

 

No, but he can eat for free at the Clevelander. Sucks for him it means a long walk across the field. Also, the servers will be home so he will have to serve himself.

 

 

Good, I like him in the pen.

 

 

Good, I like him in the pen.

 

even if he's a better starter option than the starters (he is)?

 

 

even if he's a better starter option than the starters (he is)?

 

Yeah. I think our starters stink so I'm hoping Mattingly uses the staff unconventionally.

 

 

even if he's a better starter option than the starters (he is)?

 

He's really not, to be honest. He's pretty much on par with them as a starter. He's actually basically another Tom Koehler as a starting pitcher.

 

Phelps the starter is a completely different pitcher than Phelps the reliever.

 

 

He's really not, to be honest. He's pretty much on par with them as a starter. He's actually basically another Tom Koehler as a starting pitcher.

 

Phelps the starter is a completely different pitcher than Phelps the reliever.

 

disagree 100%. It's the first year in a long time he''s really been healthy as evidenced by his velo which maintained when the marlins stretched him out. He has 3 pitches which are all good when his fastball is ~94ish. He could easily be this team's 4th best starter and i think has upside for more than that.

 

 

my dynasty, however, is very pleased as he's much more valuable as a rp than sp

 

 

disagree 100%. It's the first year in a long time he''s really been healthy as evidenced by his velo which maintained when the marlins stretched him out. He has 3 pitches which are all good when his fastball is ~94ish. He could easily be this team's 4th best starter and i think has upside for more than that.

 

If he's 3rd-4th starter talent level, a case can definitely be made that he's more valuable out of the pen as it is.

 

 

If he's 3rd-4th starter talent level, a case can definitely be made that he's more valuable out of the pen as it is.

 

3-4th starters are more valuable than chapman/jensen

 

 

3-4th starters are more valuable than chapman/jensen

 

I disagree. Just because the starter is throwing more innings doesn't make him more valuable.

 

 

OPS against as a starter last year, where he was made a starter in the middle of the fricken year, was .568 with a  30% strikeout rate. GTFO that he shouldn't have a chance and isn't the 3rd best starter on this team

 

 

I disagree. Just because the starter is throwing more innings doesn't make him more valuable.

 

i agree with you on those two specifically I was being dramatic (although there are a good deal of #3s obvs). But the point is 200 IP of 3.50-3.75 ERA doesnt grow on trees

 

 

OPS against as a starter last year, where he was made a starter in the middle of the fricken year, was .568 with a  30% strikeout rate. GTFO that he shouldn't have a chance and isn't the 3rd best starter on this team

 

He also threw 24 innings as a starter. And the first couple starts, he was on a pitch limit.

 

 

He also threw 24 innings as a starter. And the first couple starts, he was on a pitch limit.

 

those numbers also mirrored his use in the pen. those swgstrk rates are legit

 

 

i agree with you on those two specifically I was being dramatic (although there are a good deal of #3s obvs). But the point is 200 IP of 3.50-3.75 ERA doesnt grow on trees

 

Question is, is Phelps capable of putting up 200 quality innings? I'm not sure that he is. 

 

 

Adam Conley, minus the innings, pitched like a #3 starter last year imo. You could make a case that Phelps was more valuable to the staff than Conley.

 

 

Adam Conley, minus the innings, pitched like a #3 starter last year imo. You could make a case that Phelps was more valuable to the staff than Conley.

 

get ready to lose this game. Let's replace Conley with the next best option, justin nicolino for the same innings, and replace Phelps with Ellington or something. How do you think this story goes?

 

 

get ready to lose this game. Let's replace Conley with the next best option, justin nicolino for the same innings, and replace Phelps with Ellington or something. How do you think this story goes?

 

About the same honestly. Ellington seems like he's nowhere near as good as Phelps. Elite relievers also don't grow on trees, and Phelps pitched like an elite reliever last year.

 

 

About the same honestly. Ellington seems like he's nowhere near as good as Phelps. Elite relievers also don't grow on trees, and Phelps pitched like an elite reliever last year.

 

so why not turn conley into a RP?

 

 

so why not turn conley into a RP?

 

He might become one long-term.

 

 

He might become one long-term.

 

why not turn kershaw into a RP? his #s would be even more incredible

 

 

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