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This article was just posted today. It, to put it bluntly, talks a bunch of crap. However, the author all but hands Loria an ultimatum: sign Guerrero or you are the equivalent of Huizenga. Let's hope Loria and Beinfest read this. It might be the swift kick in the "arse" that they need to get this deal done:

 

Today: December 16, 2003 at 9:48:04 PST

 

Columnist Dean Juipe: Marlins are following familiar, demented course

 

Dean Juipe's column appears Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday and Friday. His? boxing notebook appears Thursday. Reach him at juipe@lasvegassun.com? or (702) 259-4084.

 

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? They're doing it, they're doing it again even after they said they wouldn't.

 

? They promised this wouldn't happen. They swore that they wouldn't make the same mistake they made the last time they were in this position.

 

? But they're following the exact same course. They're repeating history.

 

? They're tearing apart the world champions.

 

? Have you seen what's going on with the Florida Marlins since they won the World Series? And do you remember the aftermath of the Marlins' world championship in 1997?

 

? Both times, to the detriment of the franchise and everything to do with baseball in South Florida, the owner of the Marlins has decided not so much to gut his team as to neglect it or leave it to the ravages of fate.

 

? As opposed to building a perennial contender as the Yankees, Braves and a few others in baseball attempt to do, the Marlins owner -- it was Wayne Huizenga in '97 and it's Jeffrey Loria now -- seems to prefer a more diabolical approach.

 

? Win and rebuild and maybe extend your reign? Nah, the Marlins win and commit Hari Kari.

 

? "If they keep this ballclub together for the next 3, 4 or 5 years, you'll see more than one World Series," catcher and Series MVP Ivan Rodriguez said after the Marlins defeated the Yankees in Game 6 to claim the title.

 

? Yet Rodriguez, the physical and emotional mainstay of the club who was working under a one-year, $10-million contract, was almost first to go as Loria lapsed into the doldrums of his post-Series stupor. He not only denied Rodriguez a raise or even the same salary for 2004, he offered him a contract that was worth $3 million per year less than what Rodriguez had been earning.

 

? Offer the World Series MVP a cut in pay? Only an owner of the Marlins would be so clueless.

 

? "For the sake of the fans, they need to bring back as much of this team as possible," Florida third baseman Mike Lowell said after the Series. "The fans can't take another dismantling."

 

? But that's what they're getting, although Loria did sign Lowell (and second baseman Luis Castillo) to new contracts and is holding out hope that a prominent free agent such as Montreal's Vladimir Guerrero can be obtained during the ongoing winter meetings.

 

? But Rodriguez and closer Ugueth Urbina were invited to walk away as free agents and first baseman Derrek Lee -- who was eligible for arbitration -- was all but given to the Cubs. And over the weekend, the Marlins virtually gave outfielder Juan Encarnacion to the Dodgers (getting only the vague "player to be named later" in return).

 

? Rodriguez, Lee and Encarnacion combined for 271 RBIs last season and their collective loss will be a great one to overcome even for a team with a nice assortment of good, young pitchers.

 

? Of course the Marlins are familiar with this pattern of tanking it after winning a title. In '97, after becoming the first wild-card team to make it to the World Series let alone win it, they had the all-time fire sale, deleting such key players as Moises Alou, Robb Nen, Devon White, Jeff Conine and Kevin Brown as Huizenga not only turned over a new leaf but gave the tree a good shake before razing it to the ground.

 

? Predictably, the Marlins went from champions to chumps the following year, finishing 54-108 in 1998. They won only 64 games the year after that and, in essence, remained a National League also-ran until the emergence of their young pitchers and the addition of manager Jack McKeon rejuvenated the team in May.

 

? A team that had been 16-22 went on to have the best record in the majors the rest of the way, and McKeon -- at 72 years old and with 54 years in baseball behind him -- celebrated along with his players as Florida won its three postseason series to claim the world title.

 

? It was fun to see the Marlins win and fun to see the effervescent Rodriguez in such a key role. For a franchise that needs a new, rainproof stadium, the cards were in place to get one had Loria been smart enough to protect his most important assets.

 

? Instead he has violated the team, removed its soul and destroyed its championship momentum.

 

? If he doesn't do the improbable and land Guerrero in the next few days, he will have sent four regulars packing without getting much of anything in return.

 

? At a time when Florida should still be peaking, it is, instead, piqued today.

 

? And, as was the case when the Marlins were in their post-1997 funk and were targeted for dismemberment by Major League Baseball, it may not be long before they're back among the proletariat, a Saddam Hussein in a hole scrounging for scraps just months after living a palatial high life.? ?

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This is all I read:

 

"They're doing it, they're doing it again even after they said they wouldn't.

 

They promised this wouldn't happen. They swore that they wouldn't make the same mistake they made the last time they were in this position.

 

But they're following the exact same course. They're repeating history.

 

They're tearing apart the world champions.

"

 

I had enough, no point in reading the whole thing . . .

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wow........this article really pisses me off..........what a F@cking idiot...they are doing a remarkable job of keeping this team competitive with their limited budget, this guy is a douche bag, who the hell is he???

Yes, Huge Doush Bag!

 

I doubt anyone will listen to an author from Las Vegas. He has no idea what he is talking about.

 

:fyou Dean Juipe

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When did Bud Selig take the title of World Series MVP away from Josh Beckett and give it to Pudge?

 

The author mentions TWICE that Pudge was the World Series MVP.

 

This writer needs to get a clue, and so do 75% of baseball writers. I'm gonna be emailing or calling him.

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BTW, here are the two instances in which the author said Pudge was WS MVP.

 

"If they keep this ballclub together for the next 3, 4 or 5 years, you'll see more than one World Series," catcher and Series MVP Ivan Rodriguez said after the Marlins defeated the Yankees in Game 6 to claim the title.

 

Offer the World Series MVP a cut in pay? Only an owner of the Marlins would be so clueless.

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good article to read if i was a f***ing Phillie fan or something.....

 

the guy has no clue on what he is talking about...... i mentioned the fact that we lost pudge, lee and Juan and thats alot power to replace..... and that why we are tryin to persue a power bat in Vlad or Javy.....

 

most likey we get Javy, reason being i read today that the O's have offerd pudge a 7 mil a year deal with 3 more in incentives and he will get his 10 mil a year he wanst well they gave javy a 3 year at 6 mil per we can top that with Javy...

 

what he fails to mention is that when lee was traded his $$$$$ was used tto resign AJ back.....

 

we let go Juan so we can strethen our pen back where do you think the 3 mil 1 year offer to Bentiez came from?????

 

and we tried to get pudge back but for the same contract we offerd him we can get Javy for it whose stats were alot better

 

and didnt say how we got a great prospect in the Lee deal, and signed 2 all stars abck....

 

damn... i hate people like this

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i dont think its as bad as this guy writes but some of it does have a point....yea we kept castillo and lowell but how do u not give the nlcs "MVP" a raise or even the same contract he had...trust me pudge or as many people is this site call him fudge will be missed not only for his bat and defense but also his voice...if you play baseball you know what i mean when i say voice u need that type of guy on your team he like a viagra pill and now we no longer have that...yes we have great starters but what happens when they have to come out,as of right now all jack has to go to is fox and after him its going to be a bunch of unproven minor leaguers...then they let go derek lee for nothing,that choi guy couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat.oh not done there another guy they let go for nothing 5.4.3.2.juan E. a guy that made no errors playing RF hit 15+ hr and 95+ rbi's...i love the Marlins but if they dont do something about the pen and another big bat in the line-up were in for a long season...

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I wrote before the article that it was a load of crap. No argument there -- it was a painful read.

 

I just found it interesting that they practically offered Loria an ultimatum to sign Guerrero.

 

? If he doesn't do the improbable and land Guerrero in the next few days, he will have sent four regulars packing without getting much of anything in return.

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yea we kept castillo and lowell but how do u not give the nlcs "MVP" a raise or even the same contract he had...

the man had his worst statistical regular season in a while

 

trust me pudge or as many people is this site call him fudge will be missed not only for his bat and defense but also his voice...if you play baseball you know what i mean when i say voice u need that type of guy on your team he like a viagra pill and now we no longer have that...

define this voice you speak of.... and i played ball in HS

 

yes we have great starters but what happens when they have to come out,as of right now all jack has to go to is fox and after him its going to be a bunch of unproven minor leaguers...

chill out, we got money to spend, we will get another good arm or 2

 

.then they let go derek lee for nothing,that choi guy couldnt hit water if he fell out of a boat

im guessing you dont have a clue about Choi

 

oh not done there another guy they let go for nothing 5.4.3.2.juan E. a guy that made no errors playing RF hit 15+ hr and 95+ rbi's...i

this coming from his biggest fan- he had one of the WORST seasons for an OF last year(avg/obp/slg/ops)-he was below the league average in all those stats

 

 

love the Marlins but if they dont do something about the pen and another big bat in the line-up were in for a long season...

get a grip..... our starters and slap hitters will lead us once again

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if you play baseball you know what i mean when i say voice u need that type of guy on your team he like a viagra pill and now we no longer have that

Says who the voice is gone? Just the voice switches. The team's leaders are Conine and Lowell, that won't change. And our friend Josh has decided to develop una boquita, so he will more than be able to replace Pudge voice wise.

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