December 17, 200322 yr We need to add a serious lefty specialist (Hammond?) to be there for Thome/Abreu...
December 17, 200322 yr Author That was seriously the ONLY whole in our team last year. If we can get someone, I don't think we can go wrong. BTW: I was just contemplating this in my head: Redman for Mantei? The D-Backs save maybe $500K-1 Mill (paying for Redman and half of Matt), and get the starter they're looking for.
December 17, 200322 yr Raul Mondesi is still out there. I doubt we'd even try to get him.....we backed off of him at the trade deadline last year because of his attitude....plus we don't NEED him.
December 17, 200322 yr That was seriously the ONLY whole in our team last year. If we can get someone, I don't think we can go wrong. BTW: I was just contemplating this in my head: Redman for Mantei? The D-Backs save maybe $500K-1 Mill (paying for Redman and half of Matt), and get the starter they're looking for. I'd rather have Williamson just because Mantei's durability is an issue, and the last thing you want is your closer on the shelf. Even paying half of his salary leaves us on the hook for $3.5 million...
December 17, 200322 yr Author Williamson would cost around $3.5 Mill as well, and I'm just not ready to give him that. I'd rather wait until the Red Sox non-tender him and sign him as a FA at around $2-2.5 Mill.
December 17, 200322 yr How about trading for Magglio Ordonez? His 1 year deal falls right into Loria's plans, and they can re-sign him if they get a new stadium...14 mil per is a lot, but I'm sure he'd take less to re-sign (unless he has a monster year) I love Magglio and think he's unbelievably underrated..
December 17, 200322 yr Author How about trading for Magglio Ordonez? His 1 year deal falls right into Loria's plans, and they can re-sign him if they get a new stadium...14 mil per is a lot, but I'm sure he'd take less to re-sign (unless he has a monster year) I love Magglio and think he's unbelievably underrated.. It's not the same. It's like signing a lesser Vlad at the same price while giving up a heavy amount of prospects in the process. No thanx.
December 17, 200322 yr He wouldn't cost as much as you think...the Sox need to dump some salary...no one will bit eon Thomas and trading Lee doesn't make sense, so Mags is the odd man out..He'll obviously have a pricetag, but I wouldn't think it would be outrageous.
December 17, 200322 yr WE DON'T NEED A DAMN LEFTY! WE HAVE THE BEST LEFT HANDED PITCHER OF ALL! MICHAEL "I like to throw the ball into the dugout" TEJERA! Seriously, Thome is scary so we NEED a GOOD lefty.
December 17, 200322 yr He wouldn't cost as much as you think...the Sox need to dump some salary...no one will bit eon Thomas and trading Lee doesn't make sense, so Mags is the odd man out..He'll obviously have a pricetag, but I wouldn't think it would be outrageous. rumor is that if the this whole Arod deal goes down, the Red Sox would ship Odalis Perez to Chitown for Mags
December 17, 200322 yr Why the Marlins didn't pursue Guillen?I'm just baffle.... What a bargain at 3 mil per year.... Imagine Lopez and Guillen....
December 17, 200322 yr Relief Pitchers Left on the Free Agent Market: Free Agents Still Available (as of 12/16/03) Relief Pitchers 2003 2003 2003 2003 Career Last Name First Name Age Throws Former Team Salary ERA IP K:BB K:BB ERA Alfonseca Antonio 31 R Cubs 2003 - $4.0 M 5.83 66.1 51:27 2.14 4.11 Benitez Armando 31 R Mariners 2003 - $6.8 M 2.96 73.0 75:41 1.83 3.03 Carrasco Hector 33 R Orioles 2001 - $400 K 4.93 38.1 27:20 1.35 4.22 DeJean Mike 33 R Cardinals 2003 - $1.7 M 4.68 82.2 71:39 1.82 4.26 Fassero Jeff 40 L Cardinals 2003 - $1.3 M 5.68 77.2 55:34 1.62 4.00 Franco John 43 L Mets 2003 - $3.8 M 2.62 34.1 16:13 1.23 2.74 Guthrie Mark 38 L Cubs 2003 - $1.6 M 2.74 42.2 24:22 1.09 4.05 Holmes Darren 37 R Braves 2003 - $700 K 4.29 42.0 46:11 4.18 4.25 Jones Todd 35 R Red Sox 2003 - $3.0 M 7.08 68.2 59:31 1.90 4.06 Levine Alan 35 R Royals 2002 - $1.3 M 2.79 71.0 30:29 1.03 3.75 Lloyd Graeme 36 L Royals 2003 - $650 K 5.29 47.2 25:14 1.79 4.04 Mercker Kent 35 L Braves 2003 - $550 K 1.95 55.1 48:32 1.50 4.27 Mesa Jose 37 R Phillies 2003 - $5.2 M 6.52 58.0 45:31 1.45 4.32 Myers Mike 34 L D-Backs 2003 - $1.8 M 5.70 26.1 21:21 1.00 4.37 Nelson Jeff 37 R Yankees 2003 - $4.0 M 3.74 55.1 68:24 2.83 3.32 Osuna Antonio 30 R Yankees 2003 - $2.4 M 3.73 50.2 47:20 2.35 3.58 Painter Lance 36 L Cardinals 2003 - $575 K 5.50 18.0 11:7 1.57 5.24 Rhodes Arthur 34 L Mariners 2003 - $3.5 M 4.17 54.0 48:18 2.67 4.33 Springer Russ 35 R Carindals 2003 - $450 K 8.31 17.1 11:6 1.83 5.18 Veres Dave 37 R Cubs 2003 - $2.0 M 4.68 32.3 26:5 5.20 3.44 Wendell Turk 36 R Phillies 2003 - $3.3 M 3.38 64.0 27:28 0.96 3.85 White Gabe 32 L Yankees 2003 - $3.2 M 4.05 46.2 29:8 3.63 4.26 White Rick 34 R Astros 2003 - $600 K 5.78 67.0 54:21 2.26 4.17 Williams Mike 35 R Phillies 2003 - $3.5 M 6.14 63.0 39:41 0.95 4.45
December 17, 200322 yr Here's a name that I discovered while making this list that could be ok: Kent Mercker Cheap, too.
December 17, 200322 yr except you still have no lefty. lol we had no lefty in our champion 2003 year...
December 17, 200322 yr did i just hear Mondisi?????? HELLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL NO that guy is washed up as for soembody sayin Viagra Man is washed up... f***ing ramp wantted the man at teh all star break and i was sayin no cuz i felt like he was another Derrick Lee..... Viagra Man still f***ing finished batting 260 38 bombs 112 RBI's and he wasnt even the best player on his team..... man if we can get him i would be thrilled..... but we have $$$$$ and we will get Javy im confident..... as for the PEN read the list nobody on the list is good enough to be in a marlins uniform..... Xcept Bentiez but only if his price range is between 1.5 and 2 mil a year
December 17, 200322 yr this fits the names Free Agents Still Available (as of 12/16/03) Relief Pitchers 2003 2003 2003 2003 Career Last Name First Name Age Throws Former Team Salary ERA IP K:BB K:BB ERA Alfonseca Antonio 31 R Cubs 2003 - $4.0 M 5.83 66.1 51:27 2.14 4.11 Benitez Armando 31 R Mariners 2003 - $6.8 M 2.96 73.0 75:41 1.83 3.03 Carrasco Hector 33 R Orioles 2001 - $400 K 4.93 38.1 27:20 1.35 4.22 DeJean Mike 33 R Cardinals 2003 - $1.7 M 4.68 82.2 71:39 1.82 4.26 Fassero Jeff 40 L Cardinals 2003 - $1.3 M 5.68 77.2 55:34 1.62 4.00 Franco John 43 L Mets 2003 - $3.8 M 2.62 34.1 16:13 1.23 2.74 Guthrie Mark 38 L Cubs 2003 - $1.6 M 2.74 42.2 24:22 1.09 4.05 Holmes Darren 37 R Braves 2003 - $700 K 4.29 42.0 46:11 4.18 4.25 Jones Todd 35 R Red Sox 2003 - $3.0 M 7.08 68.2 59:31 1.90 4.06 Levine Alan 35 R Royals 2002 - $1.3 M 2.79 71.0 30:29 1.03 3.75 Lloyd Graeme 36 L Royals 2003 - $650 K 5.29 47.2 25:14 1.79 4.04 Mercker Kent 35 L Braves 2003 - $550 K 1.95 55.1 48:32 1.50 4.27 Mesa Jose 37 R Phillies 2003 - $5.2 M 6.52 58.0 45:31 1.45 4.32 Myers Mike 34 L D-Backs 2003 - $1.8 M 5.70 26.1 21:21 1.00 4.37 Nelson Jeff 37 R Yankees 2003 - $4.0 M 3.74 55.1 68:24 2.83 3.32 Osuna Antonio 30 R Yankees 2003 - $2.4 M 3.73 50.2 47:20 2.35 3.58 Painter Lance 36 L Cardinals 2003 - $575 K 5.50 18.0 11:7 1.57 5.24 Rhodes Arthur 34 L Mariners 2003 - $3.5 M 4.17 54.0 48:18 2.67 4.33 Springer Russ 35 R Carindals 2003 - $450 K 8.31 17.1 11:6 1.83 5.18 Veres Dave 37 R Cubs 2003 - $2.0 M 4.68 32.3 26:5 5.20 3.44 Wendell Turk 36 R Phillies 2003 - $3.3 M 3.38 64.0 27:28 0.96 3.85 White Gabe 32 L Yankees 2003 - $3.2 M 4.05 46.2 29:8 3.63 4.26 White Rick 34 R Astros 2003 - $600 K 5.78 67.0 54:21 2.26 4.17 Williams Mike 35 R Phillies 2003 - $3.5 M 6.14 63.0 39:41 0.95 4.45
December 17, 200322 yr got the spereadsheet idea from me eh? thats not my spreadsheet... it was posted on page 1 and what's this "spreadsheet idea" you speak of? if its useful, PM it to me so i can look at it... i'm playing with some numbers myself
December 17, 200322 yr Mercker and Levine will be twice as productive for about the same price as Benitez.
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