ive seen a video of clips from Abe Nunez and about 15-20 minutes on Choi

ive seen a video of clips from Abe Nunez and about 15-20 minutes on Choi

 

LOL - I knew, I just knew when I wrote it that you had Ramp :thumbup

yea Fox Sports Net hooks me up with tapes of alot of players

I am not sure about this guy....hope him the best of luck.

Choi being starting 1b is not writen in stone and if Abe plays himself to starting lineup,there no reason why he shouldn't start.

Let me give you my read on Abe Nunez as a bench player - don't do it!

 

I like the guy. I've followed his career as much as anyone and got to see him play about a dozen games in 2002 (they were streamed on the web that year, the final season for the Calgary Cannons) and then that Sept when he was called up.

 

If he can't win a starting job he's better off starting the season in Albuquerque where he can at least play everyday. Keep in mind he only played in 59 games last season (after a torrid beginning in July his average fell off the more games he played which unfortunately is his history, he's a streak hitter). When he was called up in Sept 2002 he was absolutely mystified by major league pitching (and that's being generous) and just looked horrible.

 

Don't leave the guy on the bench. Let him get his ABs everyday with the 'Topes, he's only a phone call away if needed. Better the Fish find a legitimate 4th OF with bench experience (I was unhappy to see John Vander Wal signed with Cincy yesterday) who is used to facing major league pitching than to call on Abe every week and a half for one AB.

 

I still think Abe has the potential to be an everyday major leaguer. But for me, there is no choice between him playing everyday and languishing on the bench in 2004. Let the guy play.

If Abe leaves ST with better statistics in most categories than Choi, DO NOT be suprised to see him starting LF.

tell you what WC...

 

I will be STUNNED if Abe Nunez is a starting outfielder.

 

He could very well be a darkhorse starter, Just like the Angels were the darkhorse for Vlad.

:blink:

Starting Chop Sui on the bench would be an admission that the Marlins traded a top-5 NL first baseman for a bench player. That's a PR hit I wouldn't want to take.

 

Brian Banks is the 4th OF right now IMO.

If Abe leaves ST with better statistics in most categories than Choi, DO NOT be suprised to see him starting LF.

tell you what WC...

 

I will be STUNNED if Abe Nunez is a starting outfielder.

 

He could very well be a darkhorse starter, Just like the Angels were the darkhorse for Vlad.

:blink:

Starting Chop Sui on the bench would be an admission that the Marlins traded a top-5 NL first baseman for a bench player. That's a PR hit I wouldn't want to take.

 

Brian Banks is the 4th OF right now IMO.Is about putting best starting lineup on the Field even if you look bad if Choi is on the bench.

If Abe leaves ST with better statistics in most categories than Choi, DO NOT be suprised to see him starting LF.

tell you what WC...

 

I will be STUNNED if Abe Nunez is a starting outfielder.

 

He could very well be a darkhorse starter, Just like the Angels were the darkhorse for Vlad.

:blink:

Starting Chop Sui on the bench would be an admission that the Marlins traded a top-5 NL first baseman for a bench player. That's a PR hit I wouldn't want to take.

 

Brian Banks is the 4th OF right now IMO.Is about putting best starting lineup on the Field even if you look bad if Choi is on the bench. Exactly. If Abe deserves the job more so coming out of ST than Choi, no reason he souldn't get it. Just because Choi would be on the bench doesn't mean his talent level is squandered or diminished.

 

Although I've had a thought for the past couple days now. Why don't we make Abe the starting left fielder against left-handed pitchers and move Conine to first for those games. This is why I have been asking for Abe's split stats from the winter league.

If Abe leaves ST with better statistics in most categories than Choi, DO NOT be suprised to see him starting LF.

tell you what WC...

 

I will be STUNNED if Abe Nunez is a starting outfielder.

 

He could very well be a darkhorse starter, Just like the Angels were the darkhorse for Vlad.

:blink:

Starting Chop Sui on the bench would be an admission that the Marlins traded a top-5 NL first baseman for a bench player. That's a PR hit I wouldn't want to take.

 

Brian Banks is the 4th OF right now IMO.Is about putting best starting lineup on the Field even if you look bad if Choi is on the bench. Exactly. If Abe deserves the job more so coming out of ST than Choi, no reason he souldn't get it. Just because Choi would be on the bench doesn't mean his talent level is squandered or diminished.

 

Although I've had a thought for the past couple days now. Why don't we make Abe the starting left fielder against left-handed pitchers and move Conine to first for those games. This is why I have been asking for Abe's split stats from the winter league. Nunez is a switch hitter though, and I'm pretty sure he's about even from either side.

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

I think the real problem is how people are quickly to defend Choi when all we're simply asking is to put best performing lineup on the field.If Choi plays well then he deserves to start and vice versa.Brian Banks staring at 1b is not out question either if Choi and Nunes struggle.

We've all been guilty of posting our lineup suggestions.

I like what your saying. Let's wait until April to see who should be on the opening day roster, and let's wait until July 24th to decide who second guess who McKeon bats clean-up on July 24th.

 

One darkhorse to make the squad might by the ex-A and Ranger Ryan Christenson. He was signed to a minor league contrat earlier this winter.

I think the real problem is how people are quickly to defend Choi when all we're simply asking is to put best performing lineup on the field.If Choi plays well then he deserves to start and vice versa.Brian Banks staring at 1b is not out question either if Choi and Nunes struggle.

That may because in other threads people were suggesting we speed 5 or 6 million to sign Rafael Palmeiro to bat .251 against the lefties Choi can't hit.

 

Or that in the same breath that people are proclaiming Cabrera as the next Magglio/Ramirez they want Choi to spend 3-4 years in AAA.

I think the real problem is how people are quickly to defend Choi when all we're simply asking is to put best performing lineup on the field.If Choi plays well then he deserves to start and vice versa.Brian Banks staring at 1b is not out question either if Choi and Nunes struggle.

 

I don't think you can compare Big Choi and Nunez or even put them in the same sentence (except of course I just did [lol]). Choi is lightyears ahead of Abe.

 

Choi was a ML starting first baseman last season until his freak accident and he was selected NL Rookie of the Month. Nunez has never made it onto a ML roster and his abbreviated appearance in the bigs was a dismal failure.

 

Choi has to perform miserably to lose his starting job while Nunez has to put up superstar numbers to even make the team. Absent a trade, an injury to Banks (or someone else) or another freak occurence Choi is your starting 1B guy next season.

22 days until Abe's 27th birthday.

31 days until spring training.

46 days until leap year day.

22 days until Abe's 27th birthday.

31 days until spring training.

46 days until leap year day.

 

How old will he be this year, 43? :w00t

I think the real problem is how people are quickly to defend Choi when all we're simply asking is to put best performing lineup on the field.If Choi plays well then he deserves to start and vice versa.Brian Banks staring at 1b is not out question either if Choi and Nunes struggle.

 

I don't think you can compare Big Choi and Nunez or even put them in the same sentence (except of course I just did [lol]). Choi is lightyears ahead of Abe.

 

Choi was a ML starting first baseman last season until his freak accident and he was selected NL Rookie of the Month. Nunez has never made it onto a ML roster and his abbreviated appearance in the bigs was a dismal failure.

 

Choi has to perform miserably to lose his starting job while Nunez has to put up superstar numbers to even make the team. Absent a trade, an injury to Banks (or someone else) or another freak occurence Choi is your starting 1B guy next season. I don't see how Choi has secure a starting spot because what he did for one month last season.Choi hasn't done much to prove he belongs in the starting lineup any more than Abe Nunez.Choi struggled at the plate for the rest of season wether he was affected my injury remains to be seen.Abe might have stuggle first time (which I might add he didn't get enough at bats) but I don't see how you can rule out the guy from even making the team because BIG GHOI has a gurantee spot.Choi doesn't have anything gurantee and has to perform in order to keep his starting spot.

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

Too bad Choi isn't showing much against that inferior talent (according to your assesment) at the winter leagues.

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

Too bad Choi isn't showing much against that inferior talent (according to your assesment) at the winter leagues.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Choi left for Korea the day after being traded to the Fish back in mid-November. I know he was in Korea for New Years and was working out there with a couple of Korean ML or wouldbe ML ball players, one of whom was/is with the Braves.

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

Too bad Choi isn't showing much against that inferior talent (according to your assesment) at the winter leagues.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Choi left for Korea the day after being traded to the Fish back in mid-November. I know he was in Korea for New Years and was working out there with a couple of Korean ML or wouldbe ML ball players, one of whom was/is with the Braves. Didn't he play some winter ball?I remember someone posting his stats or am I wrong?

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

Too bad Choi isn't showing much against that inferior talent (according to your assesment) at the winter leagues.

Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe Choi left for Korea the day after being traded to the Fish back in mid-November. I know he was in Korea for New Years and was working out there with a couple of Korean ML or wouldbe ML ball players, one of whom was/is with the Braves. Didn't he play some winter ball?I remember someone posting his stats or am I wrong?

He played in one of the two Mexican leagues for a short time after the ML season where he had respectable numbers, but he left as soon as the deal was done and went directly to Korea.

 

If you go to Google news and type in his name you'll find a story from a Korean newspaper about Choi celebrating New Years and working out at some stadium with a couple of guys. I posted it here.

 

I remember it because there was a funny translation in the story that called him something like "untrimmed jewelry" which of course was a poor translation of the American phrase "diamond in the rough".

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

My thoughts exactly. The guy hasn't even won a job in spring training, let alone a starting job. The guy is a career .118 hitter in the majors. I'd like to see him pick up the 4th or 5th OF job, but to insert him into the starting lineup already is being quite presumptuous. (sp?)

I'm simply amazed how high the expectation level is around a guy who has never proven he can hit pitching better than at the AA/AAA level. You look at the pitching in the winter leagues and you don't see guys throwing who are anywhere near major league caliber frontline pitchers.

 

Not to diminish his numbers or his chances of catching fire in spring training, penciling him in prematurely is at best idle chatter around the hot stove.

 

I would remind everyone that Kevin Hooper was batting around .400 when he was summarily bounced off the major league roster last spring. ST performance does not neccessarily secure anyone a spot on the eventual 25 man roster. We already have a fourth outfielder in Banks, we ought to see how the team comes together and what our needs are before before committing to any one player who will almost assuredly be spending most of his time on the bench.

My thoughts exactly. The guy hasn't even won a job in spring training, let alone a starting job. The guy is a career .118 hitter in the majors. I'd like to see him pick up the 4th or 5th OF job, but to insert him into the starting lineup already is being quite presumptuous. (sp?) The same could be said about Choi and who said Nunez will be a starter?Whoever perform better should be inserted in the starting lineup.

very happy about abe nunez

 

dont get down on choi guys, he hasnt even played one game with us

 

I have to wonder how many people here have actually seen Abraham Nunez play the game of baseball? The same thing goes for Choi. I guess we are all not as privileged as you nor as knowledgeable as you. We just may have to - gasp! - form opinions on what information we have: stats. But perhaps you can give us your expert analysis since you have been watching both players since T-ball, I am sure.