February 12, 200422 yr ok guys, 1) predict the Marlins record(162 games remember) 2) predict the Marlins projected 6 starters(AJ, Josh, Penny, DW, Pavano, Oliver) eras and wins..... also predict Armando Benitez's saves and era 3) predict the Marlins projected lineups'(Luis, Pierre, Cabs, Choi, Lowell, Niner, AGon,Ramon,Red,Cordero)....avg, hr, rbi, sb 4) and finally predict which Marlins are All Stars and which win a Gold Glove thanks and good luck last years thread
February 12, 200422 yr Record: 92-70 All-Stars: Luis Castillo, Alex Gonzalez, Mike Lowell (voted), Juan Pierre, Josh Beckett, Armando Benitez Gold-Glove: Luis Castillo, Alex Gonzalez Ramon Castro: .280, .350 OBP, 25 homers, 80 RBI, 0 SB Hee Seop Choi: .275, .390 OBP, 17 homers, 70 RBI, 2 SB Wil Cordero: .285, .360 OBP, 8 homers, 40 RBI, 1 SB Luis Castillo: .320, .400 OBP, 3 homers, 35 RBI, 35 SB Alex Gonzalez: .280, .340 OBP, 23 homers, 85 RBI, 3 SB Mike Lowell: .285, .380 OBP, 35 homers, 125 RBI, 2 SB Jeff Conine: .300, .360 OBP, 15 homers, 90 RBI, 5 SB Juan Pierre: .315, .400 OBP, 0 homers, 35 RBI, 70 SB Miguel Cabrera: .295, .360 OBP, 30 homers, 110 RBI, 4 SB Josh Beckett: 18 wins, 2.75 ERA Brad Penny: 16 wins, 3.30 ERA Carl Pavano: 15 wins, 3.40 ERA Dontrelle Willis: 14 wins, 3.75 ERA Darren Oliver: 3 wins, 3.90 ERA (as starter) A.J. Burnett: 9 wins, 3.50 ERA Mike Neu: 3.20 ERA Chad Fox: 2.50 ERA Armando Benitez: 45 saves, 2.00 ERA
February 12, 200422 yr 89-73 All-Stars: Castillo, Lowell, Beckett Gold-Glove: Luis Castillo Pierre .311 2 HR 37 RBI 55 SB Castillo .320 4 HR 44 RBI 31 SB Lowell .278 31 HR 104 RBI 3 SB Conine .275 21 HR 85 RBI 4 SB Choi .280 18 HR 67 RBI 5 SB Cabrera .292 24 HR 88 RBI 2 SB Redmond .313 5 HR 40 RBI 0 SB Gonzalez .269 18 HR 65 RBI 4 SB Cordero .271 7 HR 31 RBI Josh Beckett: 16-7 3.32 ERA Brad Penny: 14-10 3.80 ERA Carl Pavano: 13-11 4.09 ERA Dontrelle Willis: 13-9 4.11 ERA Oliver: 9-9 4.30 ERA Benitez 3-4 3.78 ERA, 28 saves
February 12, 200422 yr Record: 94-68 All-Stars: Luis Castillo, Mike Lowell, Juan Pierre, Josh Beckett Gold-Glove: Luis Castillo, Mike Lowell, Juan Pierre Ramon Castro: .280, .350 OBP, 25 homers, 83 RBI, 2 SB Hee Seop Choi: .265, .390 OBP, 17 homers, 86 RBI, 2 SB Luis Castillo: .320, .400 OBP, 5 homers, 35 RBI, 35 SB Alex Gonzalez: .276, .340 OBP, 21 homers, 90 RBI, 3 SB Mike Lowell: .290, .380 OBP, 37 homers, 125 RBI, 3 SB Jeff Conine: .285, .360 OBP, 15 homers, 90 RBI, 5 SB Juan Pierre: .315, .400 OBP, 1 homers, 48 RBI, 70 SB Miguel Cabrera: .295, .360 OBP, 33 homers, 110 RBI, 5 SB Josh Beckett: 18 wins, 2.75 ERA Brad Penny: 16 wins, 3.40 ERA Carl Pavano: 14 wins, 3.50 ERA Dontrelle Willis: 15 wins, 3.55 ERA Darren Oliver: 5 wins, 3.60 ERA (as starter) A.J. Burnett: 10 wins, 3.50 ERA Armando Benitez: 51 saves, 2.03 ERA
February 12, 200422 yr 2004 Predicted Record 92-70 JP- .301 1HR 37 RBI 195 hits 66sb Louie- .311 5HR 40RBI 185hits 40sb Cab's- .270 30HR 110 RBIs 8sb Lowell- .275 35HR's 125 RBIs 3sb Conine- .280 15HR's 85 RBI's 10sb Castro- .264 27HR's 90 RBI's 1sb Choi - .273 16HR's 80RBI's 3sb Sea Bass .265 15HR's 70 RBI's 5sb Redmond- .260 5HR's 40RBI 3sb Cordero- .280 12HR 50RBI 5sb Rotation Josh Beckett- 18 wins, 2.44 ERA Brad Penny- 15 wins, 2.80 ERA Carl Pavano- 15 wins, 3.40 ERA Dontrelle Willis - 16 wins, 3.25 ERA Darren Oliver - 4 wins 4.00 ERA A.J. Burnett- 8 wins 3.75 ERA Benitez- 35 Saves 2.25 ERA Gold Glove: Luis Castillo, Mike Lowell, Juan Pierre All-Stars: Josh Beckett, Juan Pierre, Mike Lowell, Miguel Cabrera
February 12, 200422 yr The Quirky Burque Prediction for the 2004th year of modern man RECORD in 04 90-72 (2nd in div, WC birth) STARTERS Beckett ERA - 3.09, 16-9 Penny ERA - 3.71, 17-12 Dwilly ERA - 4.12, 11-14 Pavano ERA - 3.88, 15-11 Oliver (1/3 season) ERA - 3.97, 4-2 Burnett (2/3 season) ERA - 3.15, 10-4 Benitez ERA - 2.48, 34 sv LINEUP Pierre avg. - .312, hr - 2, rbi - 41, sb - 51 Castillo avg. - .303, hr - 6, rbi - 64, sb - 32 Cabrera (the chosen one) avg. - .289, hr - 34, rbi - 105, sb - 1 Lowell avg. - .281, hr - 28, rbi - 97, sb - 4 Choi avg. - .268, hr - 22, rbi - 82, sb - 12 Niner avg. - .279, hr - 19, rbi - 78, sb - 4 Agon avg. - .274, hr - 14, rbi - 62, sb - 5 Castro avg. - .259, hr - 18, rbi - 60, sb - 0 Redmond avg. - .301, hr - 4, rbi - 32, sb - 1 Cordero avg. - .282, hr - 8, rbi - 24, sb - 3 Gold Gloves Castillo, Agon All-Stars Cabrera, Pierre, Lowell, Beckett PRINT IT *its not good luck to make a postseason prediction so I won't
February 12, 200422 yr 93-69 All Stars: Josh Beckett, Luis Castillo, Mike Lowell, Juan Pierre Gold Glovers: None Pierre: .306, 1 HR, 43 RBI, 59 SB Castillo: .311, 4 HR, 48 RBI, 36 SB Lowell: .281, 34 HR, 117 RBI, 1 SB Cabrera: .272, 29 HR, 103 RBI, 2 SB Conine: .278 17 HR, 87 RBI, 4 SB Choi: .261, 8HR, 32 RBI, 7 SB Cordero: .265, 13 HR, 59 RBI, 3 SB Castro: .252, 16 HR, 67 RBI, 3 SB Redmond: .283, 3 HR, 42 RBI, 1 SB Gonzalez: .259, 19 HR, 82 RBI, 2 SB Beckett: 20-8, 3.07 ERA Penny: 16-9, 3.74 ERA Pavano: 14-12, 3.89 ERA Oliver: 7-9, 4.32 ERA Willis: 12-9, 3.98 ERA AJ: 7-5, 3.78 ERA Benitez: 3.23 ERA, 42 Saves Marlins will win NL Wild Card . . . again!
February 12, 200422 yr JP- .301 1HR 37 RBI 195 hits 66sb Louie- .311 5HR 40RBI 185hits 40sb Cab's- .270 30HR 110 RBIs 8sb Lowell- .275 35HR's 125 RBIs 3sb Conine- .280 15HR's 85 RBI's 10sb Castro- .264 27HR's 90 RBI's 1sb Choi - .273 16HR's 80RBI's 3sb Sea Bass .265 15HR's 70 RBI's 5sb Redmond- .260 5HR's 40RBI 3sb Cordero- .280 12HR 50RBI 5sb 727 RBI from the starters, eh? And 130 from first base, no less. I sure hope you're right, though.
February 12, 200422 yr Well we had 710 last year, thats Counting Conine for the whole season which we will have him this year and 107 from first base last year as well.
February 13, 200422 yr and 107 from first base last year as well. Neither Hee Seop Choi nor Wil Cordero are Derrek Lee.
February 13, 200422 yr and 107 from first base last year as well. Neither Hee Seop Choi nor Wil Cordero are Derrek Lee. Of course not but Hee Seop Choi AND Jeff Conine combined can put up "derrek lee like" numbers, since it will be a platoon. This is what I'm hoping
February 13, 200422 yr I figured I'd wait til March, but everyone else is doing it, so what the heck..... 2004 Record: 87-75 All-Stars: Juan Pierre (alt.), Josh Beckett, Mike Lowell Gold Glove: Castillo, Gonzalez Rotation Josh Beckett: 16 wins, 3.48 ERA Brad Penny: 15 wins, 4.33 ERA Carl Pavano: 12 wins, 3.99 ERA Dontrelle Willis: 11 wins, 4.50 ERA Darren Oliver: 8 wins, 4.73 ERA A.J. Burnett: 7 wins, 3.50 ERA Bullpen Armando Benitez: 5 wins, 35 SV, 3.02 ERA Chad Fox: 5 wins, 2 SV, 3.57 ERA Mike Neu: 3 wins, 4.42 ERA Lineup Juan Pierre: .313, 1 HR, 39 RBI, 50 SB Luis Castillo: .309, 5 HR, 49 RBI, 25 SB Miguel Cabrera: .275, 21 HR, 80 RBI, 5 SB Mike Lowell: .283, 29 HR, 110 RBI, 2 SB Jeff Conine: .270, 18 HR, 77 RBI, 1 SB Hee-Seop Choi: .266, 10 HR, 54 RBI, 0 SB Ramon Castro: .268, 18 HR, 69 RBI, 0 SB Alex Gonzalez: .254, 17 HR, 70 RBI, 1 SB and just for fun... Bench Abraham Nunez: .315, 8 HR, 42 RBI, 10 SB Lenny Harris: .233, 1 HR, 12 RBI, 0 SB Wil Cordero: .260, 9 HR, 49 RBI, 0 SB Mike Mordecai: .229, 2 HR, 9 RBI, 3 SB Mike Redmond: .287, 1 HR, 14 RBI, 0 SB
February 13, 200422 yr but Hee Seop Choi AND Jeff Conine combined can put up "derrek lee like" numbers, since it will be a platoon. But Jeff Conine will not being platooning at 1st base. It's Choi and Cordero that will be platooning.
February 13, 200422 yr Record: 85-77, 3rd place in NL East Starters: Josh Beckett/Brad Penny/A.J. Burnett/Carl Pavano/D-Train (Oliver will play until Burnett comes back) Lineup: Pierre, Castillo, Cabrera, Lowell, Conine, Castro, Cordero, A-Gone Benitez: 3-5, 3.05 ERA, 32 Saves, 4 blown Other predictions: Castro struggles, and the organization calls up Josh Willingham, who wins the ROY. Choi struggles, and platoons with Cordero. Bullpen struggles when Neu, Bump, and the other misfits have bad years. Starters will have good years, but the only good relievers will be Benitez and Fox. Bench does well with the addition of Cordero and Easley. The holes at C and 1B hurt the team too greatly, miss the WC. The loss of runs produced kills the team. Positional ratings: Catcher- C- First Base- C Second Base- B+ Shortstop- C Third Base- A Outfield- B overall Starting pitching- B at first, B+ when Burnett returns Closer/Setup Men- A Rest of Bullpen- D Manager- A+ Good moves: -Replacing Looper with Benitez -Adding Easley and Cordero to the bench -Keeping the starters together -Signing Oliver to fill in for Burnett, rather than Wayne Bad moves: -Reliance on Castro/Redmond, Choi, and Cabrera -Not signing anyone for the 'pen beyond Benitez -Heavy loss of RBI's with the departure of Pudge, Lee, and Encarnacion -Re-signing Alex Gonzalez
February 13, 200422 yr I am going to stand by the predictions I made earlier for the offensive numbers, although they are very modest: Offensive predictions 2004 Record: 87-75 I think this is also a modest number, we could just as easily win 95 games, but I think there are too many question marks at this point to realistically feel we are in the playoffs. There are too many other good teams and questions which in turn have to be answered. I would be more comfortable after Spring Training. 2004 Starters: AJ 6-2 3.57 Beckett 16-8 3.16 Penny 13-9 3.82 Pavano 17-10 3.25 Oliver 11-5 4.25 Willis 12-13 4.50 Benitez 43SV 3.69 2004 Offense (Starters): Juan Pierre .292 0HR 35RBI 63SB Luis Castillo .301 3HR 46RBI 20SB Miguel Cabrera .275 20HR 83RBI Mike Lowell .285 28HR 100RBI Jeff Conine .283 20HR 85RBI Hee-Seop Choi .261 18HR 67RBI Ramon Castro .267 19HR 72RBI Alex Gonzalez .260 15HR 70RBI 2004 All-Stars: Mike Lowell Josh Beckett Carl Pavano Benitez 2004 Gold Glove: Lowell Castillo Gonzalez I think we have a very good team and the chemistry is very much in place. Lead by Trader Jack, this team will remain focused and Burnett is going to make his presence felt in the 2nd half of the season to push us in the playoff race. But I think this year we fall a little short because there is too much competition with the Astros, Cards, Cubs in the central - the division winner and wild card should come out of there. We have to win our division to go to the postseason I feel. I think Pavano is going to shine this year and Beckett will rise to being one of the most dominate pitchers in the game.
February 13, 200422 yr My bad...Cordero and Choi is what I meant And you feel that Choi and Cordero are 27 RBI better than Derrek Lee?
February 13, 200422 yr Future GM - Bad moves: -Reliance on Castro/Redmond, Choi, and Cabrera You will bow down to Cabrera's almighty power
February 13, 200422 yr and 107 from first base last year as well. Neither Hee Seop Choi nor Wil Cordero are Derrek Lee. Hee Seop Choi is a BETTER fit for this team and this stadium on the offensive end. He wont put up the same power numbers but he wont K more than Lee did and certainly has an opportunity to be more 'clutch' than Lee. That aint saying much either. The only things Lee has over Choi is speed (which isnt necessary and most of those steals were achieved with Torborg than with McKeon) and defense. But Choi is not far behind in that department either.
February 13, 200422 yr Wow Geemoney, you and I predicted the exact same wins this year... As did I and JBurque.
February 13, 200422 yr Wow Geemoney, you and I predicted the exact same wins this year... Great minds think alike?
February 13, 200422 yr Wow Geemoney, you and I predicted the exact same wins this year... Great minds think alike? Damn right... I am predicting we draw 2M this season too AND get a stadium done...but I think it is going to shock us all HOW it gets done...
February 13, 200422 yr AND get a stadium done...but I think it is going to shock us all HOW it gets done... I agree with that... :shifty
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