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I'd imagine that if they go for this there will be a late tri-rail run north...at least I hope so.

The Cuban community already supports this team in large numbers on TV and Radio, as does the rest of the community. For us to come out to the stadium the marlins need to be the talk of the town. Somehow the ballpark needs to be a place where you want to be seen, a status symbol. Start giving away tickets to every celebrity that comes to town, and bring them to the park in a very public, attention getting way. Start promoting yourself with the nightlife at Miami Beach. Get players to go there publically, start passing around tickets...do whatever you can to get that crowd in the stands. Also an indoor stadium would be nice.

complain about a stadium that isn't even proposed.

Girardi certainly deserves a lot of credit. FO doesn't control attitude, and it doesn't control chemistry. Managing in baseball isn't so much X's and O's (though more so in the National League than American), as it is managing personalities. He's done an excellent job managing pitch counts, and keeping these kids focused. Loria certainly has a right to treat this team as his toy, but it won't be good for the fans if he does. He's certainly on pace to being a poorer Steinbrenner.

It only works if the team has a GM of Beinfest's quality. Serious I can't think of another team that can pull off the coup we did. It also helped that the players we traded away were young, by some team's standards cheap, and thus had serious trade value.

Take a pitcher from the dead ball era. 30+win good lord. Walter Johnson's 1913 for example: 36 wins, 243 K's, and 1.14 ERA. His ERA, adjusted to the league, is the fifth best in history. Opponents batted .187 and had a .217 OBP (sixth lowest all-time). He tossed 11 shutouts, completed 29 games, and threw 346 innings - all league bests. But Christy Mathewson, Cy Young, and Grover Alexander all had similiar years.

I'm cuban too, but I love it when the team comes here. Two or three defections, guarenteed.

No, expansion is done for awhile. Rays are locked in st pete for another 25 years. There were rumors during contraction that the Rays would be allowed to leave if the cities were given money and some bookings...the idea being that the marlins would play there part time concentrating on the last part when football season came around....unfortunately the rumor was bogus.

Its sad, but Josh is leaving first chance he gets. His skin and pitching style just can't handle the humidity. He's going to be awesome for somebody else. sigh.

So this makes no sense to me but it was floating around at a bar I frequent. Basically the city of Miami would buy Dolphin stad from Huizinga, and agree to put a roof on it. Then they rent it out to the Marlins and Dolphins at sweetheart deals. I pointed out to the gentleman that there is no way to put a roof when its in use 9 months of the year. He said 4-5 months is enough, but the Dolphins would have to find a temporary home if they make it to the playoffs, akin to what the Bears did. The other thing is that even minus the Marlins revenue, Huizinga makes good money with the Stadium, and I doubt he would part with it. Anyway its an interesting thought.

Wouldn't it be nice if Huzinga would just sell a 50% stake in the stadium to Loria, and they could put a roof on it together

um...Barry Bonds? No doubt I want Delgado to win, but he isn't going to.

If neither Juan or Jeff are traded then the solution is simple. If Juan can hit in line with his career averages (.270+, 20HR, etc) then he should be the RF everyday. If he starts slumping put in Conine. I really like the idea of Conine on the bench, being the primary backup, and a very dangerous backup at 4 positions.

Probably but 80% have been around longer than we have. Still look around and thats usually the rule. Alternatively look at those who mean a lot to the community, and aren't likely to be forgotten soon. Conine was on his way, but all those years away from home hurt. I'm not the owner, but I wouldn't put any of them on the wall.

I don't think there is a marlin who'll get his number retired. Conine just isn't good enough...long shot. Lowell has a "slightly" better chance, because he is a true native, and still has some years ahead. Sheif will get it only if he goes in as a fish, and he's not likely to get in. Cabs has the potential, but I don't want to think about us trying to sign him at his peak. Just look around the league about who gets their numbers retired. Hall of Famers, record breakers, and then those that supported the other two. Conine and Lowell were/are solid players, community leaders, but they are not superstars (we'll not for more than a year or 2 anyway).