A few weeks ago I said that Brad Penny was our best starter.

 

 

 

Today I'm going to say that Carl Pavano right now is the 2nd best starter on this team and has been all year long.

 

 

 

We have to make it a top priority to make him a Marlin for life this winter.

 

 

Carl is a pitcher and has really matured in the last year. Great to see him suceeding.

It shows what throwing strikes and attacking the zone can do.

he's always had the talent...didnt really pan out until he became a Marlin...we need to keep him a Marlin fo sho.

It shows what throwing strikes and attacking the zone can do.

he has matured as a pitcher.

 

 

 

if josh could only do the same.

 

 

 

and aj.

It shows what throwing strikes and attacking the zone can do.

he has matured as a pitcher.

 

 

 

if josh could only do the same.

 

 

 

and aj. aj has been horrible with his command in his first 2 games back

 

and as with josh

 

sometimes he is great

 

and sometimes he is horrible

 

i guess its just how he feels when he wakes up

 

BUT Das like I thought pitching was all about who can throw the hardest!!!

 

 

Carl has been pitching solid solid games this season.

 

Grounders a-plenty with our D is the way to go...

damn straight.

 

 

same thing applies to any great defensive squad.

 

 

make the other team put the ball in play......let your defense do their thing.

what?!!!! I thought strikeouts were the only meaningful way of getting a batter out! :banghead

 

i feel foolish

BUT Das like I thought pitching was all about who can throw the hardest!!!

uh....aj had bad command

 

and he was throing hard, like 95+

 

and he didnt do so good....

 

 

but throwing hard does help

 

but it dosent mean you will do good

 

you have to have control

almost complete ownage tonite...8 2/3 1 ER, 4 hits, 1 BB, 7 Ks.

Like I said in the game thread Pavz has been terrific, and is making a case to go to the all-star game.

solid 3.10 ERA.

big pav is 6-2 with a 3.10 era. nice!

It would really be tough to see Pavano go. He has really matured as a pitcher. We need to do all we can to keep this rotation together.

 

Josh and AJ will come around, but they may still be a year away until it all clicks like with Penny and Pavano.

I have a feeling Josh is going to come back strong when he comes off the DL. It's going to take a while for AJ but we can survive if our other pitchers keep pitching like they are and hopefully AJ will start pitching well once we near the playoffs.

pavano has a good command of the strike zone......i think he could lead the team in wins this season...with all that said good game and sea bass came through again i wouldn't be surprised if he moved up a spot in the lineup

The playoffs and series showed us he had fully turned the corner after hints of it during the season.

 

i remember reading an article in an out of town paper about him during the playoffs...he said he was out to rid himself of the ghosts that haunted him, the teams that gave up on him---i knew he had arrived.

 

not much difference between him and Brad this year

Pavvy's making our non-Pennys look bad. What a great performance tonight, EXACTLY what this team needed- consistency!!

 

:notworthy :notworthy :notworthy :notworthy

 

Could it be Ms. Milano's influence? Can we rent her out to the other guys?

I agree with you Das, this guy needs to be kept! He keeps surprising me evertime he takes the mound, and today...wow.

 

I personally think the FO won't be economical at all when it comes to starting pitching. They know that our guys are the envy of many, and pitchers like these are hard to replace. Replacing a bat is much, much easier.

Could it be Ms. Milano's influence? Can we rent her out to the other guys?

I Heard on 940 today that he and Milano broke up, that this was his 1st start since the break up. Maybe they can get back together and break up every 5 days?

put willis in the 'pen

willis to pen?? yea right, he may be on and off but we need atleast one lefty in the rotation. com'on he dosent have that bad numbers. he has better numbers than some #1 starters of some teams.

 

ex: holliday has a high era

zito high

ortiz high

put willis in the 'pen

Why is it that whenever someone struggles, people say "Put him in the pen?"

 

Willis is a starter. He was last year and he is this year. If someone just put Pavano in the pen through his early career struggles, we wouldn't be talking about him right now. Willis isn't going to go out there and pitch a shut-out every night. He's young and he's learning. He's willing to learn. He's not cocky and he has a great attitude. And Tommy Phelps is NOT starting over him any day.

Pavano has really impressed me. Both he and Penny seemed to turn a corner last year in the playoffs. He is easily the second best pitcher so far this year. The thing about him is that he always keeps low pitch counts because he doesn't really strike out or walk people. He lets them hit the ball in play. He always has the chance of going deep into the game which is always good with the bullpen

As far as I can tell Willis has been the only starter people have suggested to send to the pen. OK, some thought Burnett could come back sooner if he relieved for awhile. And nearly everyone wanted Oliver released, not sent to the bullpen.

 

And again I'll make the case after a 4 inning start or a 4-hit complete game that Willis should join the bullpen. Him or Phelps as our 5th starter doesn't matter much but Willis in the bullpen gives us that second excellent arm and more time for him to learn and try out another pitch.