October 4, 200421 yr ok, this is as crazy an idea as you can get but with Sammy not being in Chicago's good graces anymore, would you try and trade for him? so his contract looks like this 05: $17mil 06: $18mil or $4mil but out if the Cubs were willing to eat half the $35mil, would you make a trade for him(assuming it was feasible)? discuss.
October 4, 200421 yr LMAO, dude the marlins arnt trading for Sosa...we will be lucky if we keep the Lo duca or Pav's, i am truly concerned. supposdly the team lost 20 mil this year compared to 13 from 03
October 4, 200421 yr Well, I might be in the minority here but I think that he has plenty of big seasons left in him. As for the contract, I THINK if he is traded, the team that traded for him is obligated to pick up the '06 option. But, I'm not sure.. I think I'd rather spend the money elsewhere.
October 4, 200421 yr Author LMAO, dude the marlins arnt trading for Sosa...we will be lucky if we keep the Lo duca or Pav's, i am truly concerned. supposdly the team lost 20 mil this year compared to 13 from 03 582102[/snapback] thanks dude... I know all about the Marlins financial struggles. all I asked was, if it could get done, would you take him?
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him.
October 4, 200421 yr LMAO, dude the marlins arnt trading for Sosa...we will be lucky if we keep the Lo duca or Pav's, i am truly concerned. supposdly the team lost 20 mil this year compared to 13 from 03 582102[/snapback] thanks dude... I know all about the Marlins financial struggles. all I asked was, if it could get done, would you take him? 582107[/snapback] my mistake i misunderstood....naw i wouldnt do it...sosa k's to much and his states are inflated from a hitter friendly wrigley....just my opinion. once again sorry for the sarcasm
October 4, 200421 yr If I were like the Mets, I might deal for him if the Cubs pay 20 of the 35 million and I could get Floyd's contract off my hands, and yes, if Sammy is traded, the team that gets him has to pick up his '06 option. But in general, he's a 37 year old (at least) clubhouse cancer who's had trouble staying healthy recently, is past his prime, and is a poor outfielder, so I wouldn't want him around.
October 4, 200421 yr I don't think the Cubs really want to trade Sosa, so we'd have to make them an offer to convince them other wise, meaning the price would likely be Mota or Spooney and Juan E. That's just too much for me when you consider how much we'd pay Sosa, even if they eat half of it.
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] agreed
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] Yeah, because your cheap ownership is going to take a flyer on a at least 37 year old with a big contract (even if the Cubs paid for half of it in the deal) that could be a total bust because Miami would embrace him......
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] Yeah, because your cheap ownership is going to take a flyer on a at least 37 year old with a big contract (even if the Cubs paid for half of it in the deal) that could be a total bust because Miami would embrace him...... 582127[/snapback] Well, there is that stadium thing that needs to get done.....
October 4, 200421 yr Oh, and for the record, the Cubs will do all they can to deal Sosa in the offseason. I'd say at this point even 90 percent of the Cubs fans want him gone.....
October 4, 200421 yr Sorry....no. Especially after hearing this: http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...-cubs-headlines Sosa exits before game, angers management By Dave van Dyck and Paul Sullivan Tribune staff reporters October 3, 2004, 10:13 PM CDT When his Cubs teammates were taking the field Sunday for the final game of the season, Sammy Sosa already had taken off. And now it is possible Sosa has played his final game as a Cub. [sosa showed up for work at 12:10 p.m., barely an hour before game time, and purportedly left a half-hour later, without permission and without goodbyes. Sosa had been told Saturday he would not be in the starting lineup Sunday, so coming to the ballpark two hours later than usual wasn't all that bad. But leaving before the Cubs' 10-8 victory over Atlanta sent the Cubs' hierarchy into anger management. "I didn't know he was going to leave," manager Dusty Baker said. "No, I didn't give him permission. I don't know why. It is what it is." Asked why Sosa would want to leave, Baker said, "No idea." General manager Jim Hendry wouldn't talk in depth but was upset at his highest-paid player not being in the dugout for the final game. "Even if he wasn't playing, obviously he should have been here with his teammates," Hendry said. Hendry declined to comment on whether Sosa would be fined or disciplined. He also would not say whether this latest transgression would hasten trade talks. But Baker said: "I've got to talk to Jim about that. Jim's got to take some action." Sosa also reportedly left early Sept. 7, departing in the middle of an extra-inning loss in which he could have pinch-hit. At the time, Sosa was not playing because of hip bursitis, but he was in the starting lineup the next day. Apparently, Sosa told Baker on Saturday night he was injured and couldn't play Sunday. "He's just ailing," Baker said. "He asked for [the day off]. He said he was hurt. I said OK. I guess something has been hurting him for a while. I saw him when I was on my way out going on the field. He was packing his stuff up, like a lot of guys were." The only problem was that Sosa was packing to leave. Baker said "I still do" have respect for Sosa. But he was deeply disappointed, "especially after it happened earlier in the year. I didn't think it should happen again. It's a first for me." However, it was not a first for a Cubs manager. On the final weekend in 1997, Jim Riggleman aired out Sosa in the dugout for being a selfish player while allegedly trying to pad his stolen base total. This latest episode could force the Cubs to try to trade their fading superstar, who hit .253 with 35 homers and 80 RBIs in a season in which he was booed and dropped to sixth in the batting order. But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return. If they keep Sosa, they would owe him a guaranteed $17 million next season, then $18 million in 2006, unless they paid a $4.5 million buyout for the final year. This season has been one of turmoil for the only player in baseball history with three 60-homer seasons. His power and production have dwindled along with his size. In happier times, which means before Sunday's game, Baker said he wanted Sosa to return. "He's got to go to work this winter and get in tip-top, tip-top shape mentally and physically," Baker said. "It's a big year for him next year. I assume he'll have a very good year, especially since it's his option year." Sosa has rarely talked to the media lately. When he finally did enter the clubhouse Sunday, a reporter asked if he wanted to talk on the final day of the season. "Give me a break, I just got here," he said. After the game? "Yeah," Sosa replied. He never showed.
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] Yeah, because your cheap ownership is going to take a flyer on a at least 37 year old with a big contract (even if the Cubs paid for half of it in the deal) that could be a total bust because Miami would embrace him...... 582127[/snapback] Well, there is that stadium thing that needs to get done..... 582132[/snapback] Yeah, so your going to risk 8 million or so a year the next 2 years on a clubhouse cancer like Sosa to get a stadium?? That's not too smart IMHO....
October 4, 200421 yr But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return.582134[/snapback]
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] Yeah, because your cheap ownership is going to take a flyer on a at least 37 year old with a big contract (even if the Cubs paid for half of it in the deal) that could be a total bust because Miami would embrace him...... 582127[/snapback] Well, there is that stadium thing that needs to get done..... 582132[/snapback] Yeah, so your going to risk 8 million or so a year the next 2 years on a clubhouse cancer like Sosa to get a stadium?? That's not too smart IMHO.... 582138[/snapback] Short term future if this deal made = meh Long term future " " = Good Living
October 4, 200421 yr Author But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return.582134[/snapback] 582145[/snapback] :whistle
October 4, 200421 yr But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return.582134[/snapback] 582145[/snapback] High salary, low production is the DEFINITION of Juan Encarnacion
October 4, 200421 yr There's alot of ifs in this deal. However, there aren't many stars Miami would embrace more than Sammy frigging Sosa. It would be mania here. Check that, there is no one that Miami would love more to have a Marlin than Sammy Sosa. It would be a match made in heaven, once the ifs are worked out. I also think Sammy has plenty left in him. 582113[/snapback] Yeah, because your cheap ownership is going to take a flyer on a at least 37 year old with a big contract (even if the Cubs paid for half of it in the deal) that could be a total bust because Miami would embrace him...... 582127[/snapback] Well, there is that stadium thing that needs to get done..... 582132[/snapback] Yeah, so your going to risk 8 million or so a year the next 2 years on a clubhouse cancer like Sosa to get a stadium?? That's not too smart IMHO.... 582138[/snapback] We'd be a better team offensively with Sosa in the lineup, so any time we can get better on the field, and likely get our stadium it's a good idea. However, I do think Sosa's in decline and there's no need to give up talented young pitching for him...
October 4, 200421 yr Author But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return.582134[/snapback] 582145[/snapback] High salary, low production is the DEFINITION of Juan Encarnacion 582150[/snapback] so true
October 4, 200421 yr But the Cubs would have to pay a good part of the $35 million for two years left on his contract if they can find a taker. They probably also would have to take on a high-salaried, low-production player in return.582134[/snapback] 582145[/snapback] Why do I even bother with all of my realistic posts when you can have false dreams about players past their prime (still good, but past their prime) like Pedro and Sosa coming to Miami...... :lol
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