Finally saw "Farenheit 9/11"

[Dodge]

Read my account, let me know if I'm right here.

 

 

 

 

 

This movie is innappropriate to show to a class. Yet that is what happened. My sociology instructor, whose liberalism is painfully obvious during lecture, not to mention on his vehicle, showed us this film.

 

On Wednesday, October 27th.

 

The last class day until Election Day.

 

"Now, it may seem a little hard on Bush, but it disses the Democrats too"

-Professor Jones-Hubert, Thomas Nelson Community College, Hampton, VA

 

Supposedly this is supposed to be subject material for our political lecture, which is in A MONTH.

 

BULL s***.

 

Interesting timing, no? Poor taste, poor judgement, and completely innappropriate. Politics aside.

 

Dissent and praise was voiced in my classroom. A student inquired after the film "when were the Democrats dissed?"

His reply: "Well, when the movie says that no congressmen actually read the Patriot Act before voting it into law."

 

Wow, dude. That sure as f*** makes it reasonable to show it to the class.

 

Another student proposed to the class: "So, who's going to vote for Bush on the 2nd now?"

I responded, loud and clear.

"I AM."

 

 

 

 

 

As of now, I am actively pursuing the release of this instructor from his position as an "educator."

I have written to the Administration and will continue to contact the Deans, and any other folks this matter concerns, including local Republican groups. Dare I contact the ACLU? One would think they'd be outraged by this.

 

Nonetheless, I hope to cost this mother f***er a lot of money in lost income next semester.

I did not pay to take a "John Kerry for f***ing President" course.

[Mark]

Wow. That sucks.

[Lcyberlina]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

[Flamarlins3]

Blah I hate that. I know a bunch of teachers that have done that here. We just had our 'Elon' election and not surprisingly the faculty had 141 votes for Kerry and 39 for Bush. I feel like every professor feels it is their duty to push their opinion of the upcoming election. In each one of my classes I know who my professor voted for because we always have an one-sided discussion about politics. If someone disagrees with the professor he/she will just ignore that person. I love talking about the current event type stuff in class, but when they are just spinning every single topic to go their party's way it drives me insane.

[MarlinFan10]

I'd take his copy of F 9/11 and run out of the class. :whistle

[Dodge]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

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Let's say for a second that Farenheit 9/11 is the truth.

 

Even so, it is NOT curriculum. It is NOT sociology.

 

WHY show it during the last class before election day?

 

It is wrong, wrong, wrong.

[Lcyberlina]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

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Let's say for a second that Farenheit 9/11 is the truth.

 

Even so, it is NOT curriculum. It is NOT sociology.

 

WHY show it during the last class before election day?

 

It is wrong, wrong, wrong.

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That depends what kind of class was it... In any case, I agree with you (even if I like what your teacher did :thumbup ) If your class subject has nothing to do with "cinema appreciation", "Political Science" or something of the sort, your teacher can be fired for it. I would be pissed if my Biology teacher came in a showed the "Stolen Honor Video".

[Lcyberlina]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

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Let's say for a second that Farenheit 9/11 is the truth.

 

Even so, it is NOT curriculum. It is NOT sociology.

 

WHY show it during the last class before election day?

 

It is wrong, wrong, wrong.

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That depends what kind of class was it... In any case, I agree with you (even if I like what your teacher did :thumbup ) If your class subject has nothing to do with "cinema appreciation", "Political Science" or something of the sort, your teacher can be fired for it. I would be pissed if my Biology teacher came in a showed the "Stolen Honor Video".

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As a matter of fact. I think you should demand from your teacher to show an anti-Farenheit 9/11 movie to balance out his bias. :cool

[Craig]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

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:banghead :banghead :banghead

 

Give me a f***ing break, so he's a hero of the Democratic struggle to remove all evil Republicans now because he showed a left wing, propaganda video??

 

Good lord.... :lol :lol :lol

[Dodge]

I think you're right! Too bad the next class is the day after election day, eh?

 

Politics aside, I'm not here to debate the integrity of Michael Moore, I'm just pissed.

 

Guess that's the way it is in college....

[Lcyberlina]

I think you're right!? Too bad the next class is the day after election day, eh?

 

Politics aside, I'm not here to debate the integrity of Michael Moore, I'm just pissed.

 

Guess that's the way it is in college....

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No, in all seriousness. What type of class was that? I was only joking. I really think it is offensive to do such a thing in a class that has nothing to do with Politics or film.

[Dodge]

My bad, I thought I had included the class.

 

It's "Intro to Sociology"

[CapeFish]

Note: castro aired the movie in question on national tv.

[CapeFish]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5578080

[Lcyberlina]

My bad, I thought I had included the class.

 

It's "Intro to Sociology"

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oh OK. Then I think your teacher needs to show the other side of the equation if he wants to be fair. I don't think he was showing it for political reasons, but more for the purpose of showing how a film can impact society or maybe the events in the film can definetely show a society trend... I don't know. I really think you should talk to him or her and tell him/her how you feel. Depending upon what they say then you can file a formal complaint. Give the teacher a chance to explain why they did it.

[g8trz2003]

:notworthy Your teacher rocks! He probably will get fired but you know what... He is a hero in my book. I would do the same. Open a couple of blind eyes.

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YES! Professors who push their beliefs on you! AWESOME!

 

 

I'd rather not know their political views, and let me decide them on my own (that's what college is about).

 

I wouldn't want a rare conservative professor to press his views on me either.

 

My top 3 favorite professors have all been liberals, but they don't discuss personal politics (even though they are all history professors and could easily incorporate them into discussion).

[Dodge]

My bad, I thought I had included the class.

 

It's "Intro to Sociology"

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oh OK. Then I think your teacher needs to show the other side of the equation if he wants to be fair. I don't think he was showing it for political reasons, but more for the purpose of showing how a film can impact society or maybe the events in the film can definetely show a society trend... I don't know. I really think you should talk to him or her and tell him/her how you feel. Depending upon what they say then you can file a formal complaint. Give the teacher a chance to explain why they did it.

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I don't think it would change much about the message he sent to me.

 

You know, the stuff you said sounds OK, it might work, except, it doesn't fit in the curriculum, period. It was a random thing, that just happened to be the class before election day.

 

Things that make you go "hmmmm"

 

Don't worry, I'll pursue it further, and I'll def. post if more stuff comes about.

[Rune]

Just a question CF, when my teacher said that Reagen on his own got The Iran Hostages free because he was tough, should I have the right to try to get him fired because I disagree on how he teaches the class.

 

If I'm correct, you're paying into that school therefore accepting the teachers that college has hired. If you had a problem with his teaching methods, why not just go man to man with him and tell him you have a problem with it. Not go behind his back and whine to administrators.

 

I hope you at least went up to him first and told what you were going to do, instead of going behind him and trying to cause this stir.

[Dodge]

Just a question CF, when my teacher said that Reagen on his own got The Iran Hostages free because he was tough, should I have the right to try to get him fired because I disagree on how he teaches the class.

 

If I'm correct, you're paying into that school therefore accepting the teachers that college has hired. If you had a problem with his teaching methods, why not just go man to man with him and tell him you have a problem with it. Not go behind his back and whine to administrators.

 

I hope you at least went up to him first and told what you were going to do, instead of going behind him and trying to cause this stir.

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No, I'm afraid I didn't but I will.

 

My blood was boiling and I was trembling, and he dismissed class rather quickly at the end of the movie... I was hoping to talk to him in front of the class rather than alone. And I will.

 

Yeah, you have that right, as mentioned in your first paragraph. Now, while the example you cited may not be as offensive and impacting as what happened in my classroom, you have that right.

[Lcyberlina]

I think so too CF. I think Rune has a point. Put yourself in the teacher's position. I think you should clear the air with the teacher before you do something. What if this person was actually a Bush supporter showing the film thinking you guys were Republicans and needed a good laugh???? :blink: I mean, what if? You need to talk to the teacher man, what if this person has a family to support and you are going to get him fired for something so little...

[Dodge]

Oh, no, he's made it quite clear he's not a Bush supporter, as I noted in my opening post.

 

Yeah, it's a big thing, but hey, decisions warrant consequences.

 

I will talk to him, I promise. Next chance I get.

[Shaq-Man]

Just a question CF, when my teacher said that Reagen on his own got The Iran Hostages free because he was tough, should I have the right to try to get him fired because I disagree on how he teaches the class.

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Slightly off topic, but that's a horrendous analogy.

 

It's like suggesting one should get tons of college professors fired because they occasionally make liberally-biased statements.

 

imo, at least from what I read here, it's pretty obvious what this professor is up to.

[Shamrock]

It's unfortunate he chose his timing like he did or you could have asked him to show a Rep piece.

[Hotcorner]

If this was high school we were talking about I'd agree with you.

 

But as for college I hope people are mature enough to make up their own minds. (Sadly this is not often the case.)

[g8trz2003]

hmm....you're not mature enough at 17, but you are at 18?

 

The fact is, college is a time where you come into your OWN views (and not those of parents and teachers, etc.)....it's bush (no pun intended) league to push views on your students.