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Well, since Fritz can't stop bitching to me about how I made a "political statement" about Carlos Delgado, and how I am a troll for making that statement, I've decided I better start posting anything that is close to political here so I don't "troll" (even though my statments were on topic)

 

this is from liberalscum.com

 

I've boldedthe ones that are blatantly similar.

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How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.

1963 Communist Goals

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

 

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

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2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

 

Goddamn p***y-ass liberals. Who doesn't want to get into an atomic war? I say lets just start nuking countries for fun. Let's start with Russia.

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This liberal-communist connection does seem like a bit of a stretch. A typical liberal does not necessarily equate with a communist. There are similar tendencies, since it is in the "left", but such an analysis can be done for the right as well. Although there are plenty of "liberals" (such as some anti-war activists) who could be considered communists, it is not an absolute.

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2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

 

Goddamn p***y-ass liberals. Who doesn't want to get into an atomic war? I say lets just start nuking countries for fun. Let's start with Russia.

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Does this give me the full precedence to post an article on how Nazi's and conservatives are similar?

 

 

 

 

 

Get real, communism does not equal liberalism. I love how quite a few of the conservatives on here (not all) call us commies at every chance they get. Well I guess that gives me full precedence to call them nazis.

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Does this give me the full precedence to post an article on how Nazi's and conservatives are similar?

 

 

 

 

 

Get real, communism does not equal liberalism. I love how quite a few of the conservatives on here (not all) call us commies at every chance they get. Well I guess that gives me full precedence to call them nazis.

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Actually beinfest it would be more efficient to call the conservatives fascists than nazis. The nazi's had a govt controlled socialist economic system. So the parallel is conservatives are fascists, who focus more on free market economics and extremist non-fiscal social control.

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Does this give me the full precedence to post an article on how Nazi's and conservatives are similar?

 

 

 

 

 

Get real, communism does not equal liberalism. I love how quite a few of the conservatives on here (not all) call us commies at every chance they get. Well I guess that gives me full precedence to call them nazis.

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Actually beinfest it would be more efficient to call the conservatives fascists than nazis. The nazi's had a govt controlled socialist economic system. So the parallel is conservatives are fascists, who focus more on free market economics and extremist non-fiscal social control.

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I know that Legacy. Just making a point more about social conservatism that the Nazi's were. Communists were socially liberal in theory. Now to not say a person like Stalin wasn't a fascist is totally irresponsible. But then again I will bring up communism today is Lenin's perverted Marxism and then Mao's perverted Lenin-Marxism. It is no where near the liberal train of thought (though I will say, there are some out there who call themselves liberals, and are in fact commies) and certainly not close to Marxism.

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Well, since Fritz can't stop bitching to me about how I made a "political statement" about Carlos Delgado, and how I am a troll for making that statement, I've decided I better start posting anything that is close to political here so I don't "troll" (even though my statments were on topic)

 

this is from liberalscum.com

 

I've boldedthe ones that are blatantly similar.

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How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.

1963 Communist Goals

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

 

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

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You really are a moron, and unamerican. This was some propaganda put out by idiots like you back in the 50's and 60's just so they can slander people who disagree with the views. Difference is, they've replaced communism with terrorism.

Yes, communists are lefties but those are the far left of the political spectrum. They are rare. Facists are the far right of the political spectrum. To put it in a way you can understand, neither is good.

You wanna know the difference between liberals and conservatives? They both love America, but in different ways. Conservatives love America like a 5 year old loves someone. That they can do no wrong no matter what, and anyone who questions it is bad. Liberals love for America is like adult love. We love America just as much, but we realize it has flaws and makes mistakes, so we point them out so they can be fixed, so this country doesn't get destroyed from the inside. When we see the people (AKA Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeild, Rice) that are ruining the life of someone we love, we want them out of there life. I think the reason for this is because liberals have much higher mental capacities. Why do you think most occupations where the average intelligence is higher than the general population are mostly liberal? Why are most college campuses filled with liberals? Because a higher percentage of liberals are smart enough to go to college.

And what's more patriotic? Seeing your nation's flaws and mistakes, doing something so they can be fixed, and therefore trying to prevent itself from being destroyed from within? Or blindly supporting your country, ignoring it's flaws and mistakes, labeling anyone that does see it's flaws against the country unpatriotic, a traitor, etc., and ignoring the fact that it's slowly destroying itself from within?

If anything, the most unpatriotic and unamerican thing someone in this country can do is show disregard for the first ammenment. There's a reason why our (liberal) founding fathers made that ammendment first. There's nothing more unamerican, or unpatriotic, then labeling someone a commie, terrorist symphatiser, unamerican, anti american, unpatriotic, etc. just because they disagree with you.

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Just to clarify somehting. Theres is a major misunderstanding about delgado. When he didnt stand it wasnt to protest the war like everyone falsely believes. It was solely to protest the weapons testing in that island near to puerto rico.

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Does this give me the full precedence to post an article on how Nazi's and conservatives are similar?

 

 

 

 

 

Get real, communism does not equal liberalism. I love how quite a few of the conservatives on here (not all) call us commies at every chance they get. Well I guess that gives me full precedence to call them nazis.

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Actually beinfest it would be more efficient to call the conservatives fascists than nazis. The nazi's had a govt controlled socialist economic system. So the parallel is conservatives are fascists, who focus more on free market economics and extremist non-fiscal social control.

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I know that Legacy. Just making a point more about social conservatism that the Nazi's were. Communists were socially liberal in theory. Now to not say a person like Stalin wasn't a fascist is totally irresponsible. But then again I will bring up communism today is Lenin's perverted Marxism and then Mao's perverted Lenin-Marxism. It is no where near the liberal train of thought (though I will say, there are some out there who call themselves liberals, and are in fact commies) and certainly not close to Marxism.

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Stalin wasnt a fascist, fascism requires a steep emphasis on religion, scapegoating, and a near laissez-faire economic system. None of which were present in stalinist russia. Stalin was a transitional marxist, he was leading the country until the technology would be self sustaining and a communist reality can exist. Of course we know stalin would not have stepped down anyway, but thats what he supposedly was doing

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Well, since Fritz can't stop bitching to me about how I made a "political statement" about Carlos Delgado, and how I am a troll for making that statement, I've decided I better start posting anything that is close to political here so I don't "troll" (even though my statments were on topic)

 

this is from liberalscum.com

 

I've boldedthe ones that are blatantly similar.

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How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.

1963 Communist Goals

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

 

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

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You really are a moron, and unamerican. This was some propaganda put out by idiots like you back in the 50's and 60's just so they can slander people who disagree with the views. Difference is, they've replaced communism with terrorism.

Yes, communists are lefties but those are the far left of the political spectrum. They are rare. Facists are the far right of the political spectrum. To put it in a way you can understand, neither is good.

You wanna know the difference between liberals and conservatives? They both love America, but in different ways. Conservatives love America like a 5 year old loves someone. That they can do no wrong no matter what, and anyone who questions it is bad. Liberals love for America is like adult love. We love America just as much, but we realize it has flaws and makes mistakes, so we point them out so they can be fixed, so this country doesn't get destroyed from the inside. When we see the people (AKA Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeild, Rice) that are ruining the life of someone we love, we want them out of there life. I think the reason for this is because liberals have much higher mental capacities. Why do you think most occupations where the average intelligence is higher than the general population are mostly liberal? Why are most college campuses filled with liberals? Because a higher percentage of liberals are smart enough to go to college.

And what's more patriotic? Seeing your nation's flaws and mistakes, doing something so they can be fixed, and therefore trying to prevent itself from being destroyed from within? Or blindly supporting your country, ignoring it's flaws and mistakes, labeling anyone that does see it's flaws against the country unpatriotic, a traitor, etc., and ignoring the fact that it's slowly destroying itself from within?

If anything, the most unpatriotic and unamerican thing someone in this country can do is show disregard for the first ammenment. There's a reason why our (liberal) founding fathers made that ammendment first. There's nothing more unamerican, or unpatriotic, then labeling someone a commie, terrorist symphatiser, unamerican, anti american, unpatriotic, etc. just because they disagree with you.

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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Well, since Fritz can't stop bitching to me about how I made a "political statement" about Carlos Delgado, and how I am a troll for making that statement, I've decided I better start posting anything that is close to political here so I don't "troll" (even though my statments were on topic)

 

this is from liberalscum.com

 

I've boldedthe ones that are blatantly similar.

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How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.

1963 Communist Goals

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

 

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

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You really are a moron, and unamerican. This was some propaganda put out by idiots like you back in the 50's and 60's just so they can slander people who disagree with the views. Difference is, they've replaced communism with terrorism.

Yes, communists are lefties but those are the far left of the political spectrum. They are rare. Facists are the far right of the political spectrum. To put it in a way you can understand, neither is good.

You wanna know the difference between liberals and conservatives? They both love America, but in different ways. Conservatives love America like a 5 year old loves someone. That they can do no wrong no matter what, and anyone who questions it is bad. Liberals love for America is like adult love. We love America just as much, but we realize it has flaws and makes mistakes, so we point them out so they can be fixed, so this country doesn't get destroyed from the inside. When we see the people (AKA Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeild, Rice) that are ruining the life of someone we love, we want them out of there life. I think the reason for this is because liberals have much higher mental capacities. Why do you think most occupations where the average intelligence is higher than the general population are mostly liberal? Why are most college campuses filled with liberals? Because a higher percentage of liberals are smart enough to go to college.

And what's more patriotic? Seeing your nation's flaws and mistakes, doing something so they can be fixed, and therefore trying to prevent itself from being destroyed from within? Or blindly supporting your country, ignoring it's flaws and mistakes, labeling anyone that does see it's flaws against the country unpatriotic, a traitor, etc., and ignoring the fact that it's slowly destroying itself from within?

If anything, the most unpatriotic and unamerican thing someone in this country can do is show disregard for the first ammenment. There's a reason why our (liberal) founding fathers made that ammendment first. There's nothing more unamerican, or unpatriotic, then labeling someone a commie, terrorist symphatiser, unamerican, anti american, unpatriotic, etc. just because they disagree with you.

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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and the liberals turned out to be right about the war, didn't we? Where were the WMDs? Oh that's right, nowhere to be found. Where was there a single shred of evedince of the ties to Bin Ladin? Oh, that's right, Bin Ladin and Hussein had nothing to do with each other. Is our country any safer now? let's see, these terrorist groups continue to get stronger, countries that were already had WMDs and would use them are making more. And on top of all else, we've made the lives even worse for the people in Iraq.

1,418 of our young men and women have died over there for no reason.

$150 billion spent for no reason. Thousands and thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq also lost their lives for no reason. I hope you're happy. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Get that American flag out of your signature. You disgrace it.

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Well, since Fritz can't stop bitching to me about how I made a "political statement" about Carlos Delgado, and how I am a troll for making that statement, I've decided I better start posting anything that is close to political here so I don't "troll" (even though my statments were on topic)

 

this is from liberalscum.com

 

I've boldedthe ones that are blatantly similar.

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How many of these Goals from the Communist of 1963 are now the primary goals of liberals and democrats in 2004. The more you read you more you can see the real plan of these anti-American shrills.

1963 Communist Goals

The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.

 

1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war

2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war

3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"

4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.

5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites

6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination

7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.

8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN

9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress

10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN

11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)

12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party

13) Do away with loyalty oaths

14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office

15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US

16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.

17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.

18) Gain control of all student newspapers

19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.

20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.

21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.

22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.

23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".

24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.

25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.

26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".

27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"

28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"

29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".

31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.

32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.

33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.

34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI

36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.

37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business

38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.

40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.

42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.

43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.

44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.

45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.

 

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You really are a moron, and unamerican. This was some propaganda put out by idiots like you back in the 50's and 60's just so they can slander people who disagree with the views. Difference is, they've replaced communism with terrorism.

Yes, communists are lefties but those are the far left of the political spectrum. They are rare. Facists are the far right of the political spectrum. To put it in a way you can understand, neither is good.

You wanna know the difference between liberals and conservatives? They both love America, but in different ways. Conservatives love America like a 5 year old loves someone. That they can do no wrong no matter what, and anyone who questions it is bad. Liberals love for America is like adult love. We love America just as much, but we realize it has flaws and makes mistakes, so we point them out so they can be fixed, so this country doesn't get destroyed from the inside. When we see the people (AKA Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeild, Rice) that are ruining the life of someone we love, we want them out of there life. I think the reason for this is because liberals have much higher mental capacities. Why do you think most occupations where the average intelligence is higher than the general population are mostly liberal? Why are most college campuses filled with liberals? Because a higher percentage of liberals are smart enough to go to college.

And what's more patriotic? Seeing your nation's flaws and mistakes, doing something so they can be fixed, and therefore trying to prevent itself from being destroyed from within? Or blindly supporting your country, ignoring it's flaws and mistakes, labeling anyone that does see it's flaws against the country unpatriotic, a traitor, etc., and ignoring the fact that it's slowly destroying itself from within?

If anything, the most unpatriotic and unamerican thing someone in this country can do is show disregard for the first ammenment. There's a reason why our (liberal) founding fathers made that ammendment first. There's nothing more unamerican, or unpatriotic, then labeling someone a commie, terrorist symphatiser, unamerican, anti american, unpatriotic, etc. just because they disagree with you.

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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and the liberals turned out to be right about the war, didn't we? Where were the WMDs? Oh that's right, nowhere to be found. Where was there a single shred of evedince of the ties to Bin Ladin? Oh, that's right, Bin Ladin and Hussein had nothing to do with each other. Is our country any safer now? let's see, these terrorist groups continue to get stronger, countries that were already had WMDs and would use them are making more. And on top of all else, we've made the lives even worse for the people in Iraq.

1,418 of our young men and women have died over there for no reason.

$150 billion spent for no reason. Thousands and thousands of innocent civilians in Iraq also lost their lives for no reason. I hope you're happy. The blood is on Bush's hands.

Get that American flag out of your signature. You disgrace it.

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Adult love vs. a 5 year old boy. You know nothing of politics. The main difference b/w liberals and conservatives, (and unlike you i will give an unbiased definition) is that a (modern) conservative believes that ina free country we should be free to exercise our freedom to the fullest extent and that the only role of govt is to protect our security and also to preserve traditional values, so that by doing that the free people will have a moral blueprint to contro ltheir actions. The liberals believe that we need to be thankful for our freedoms and that not everyone has the opportunity to take advantage of them. So govt must take an active role in making sure that everyone gets an equal opportunity. Liberals however, feel that it is NOT the govt's role to control the moral compass. Theres a good explanation for you guys. And i wont argue the merits of the war but its much more complicated than you make it seem. Even the intelligent people who are fervently anti-war people realize that

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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Pat Buchanan?

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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Pat Buchanan?

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Buchanan is against the war b/c of monetary cost.

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Again, liberals trying to spin the word patriotism so it works for them. All the people protesting the Iraq war, were, you guessed it, liberals. The war was just, people were treated horribly in Iraq. I'd just like to see how some of those liberal war protesters got beaten, tortured, and murdered, because of their "first amendment rights" that the liberals tote around so much. (Which they would of been beaten,tortured and murdered for saying something against the government in Iraq)

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Pat Buchanan?

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Buchanan is against the war b/c of monetary cost.

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He never said how one is against it. He just said they're against it. I provided an example.

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Does this give me the full precedence to post an article on how Nazi's and conservatives are similar?

 

 

 

 

 

Get real, communism does not equal liberalism. I love how quite a few of the conservatives on here (not all) call us commies at every chance they get. Well I guess that gives me full precedence to call them nazis.

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Actually beinfest it would be more efficient to call the conservatives fascists than nazis. The nazi's had a govt controlled socialist economic system. So the parallel is conservatives are fascists, who focus more on free market economics and extremist non-fiscal social control.

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I know that Legacy. Just making a point more about social conservatism that the Nazi's were. Communists were socially liberal in theory. Now to not say a person like Stalin wasn't a fascist is totally irresponsible. But then again I will bring up communism today is Lenin's perverted Marxism and then Mao's perverted Lenin-Marxism. It is no where near the liberal train of thought (though I will say, there are some out there who call themselves liberals, and are in fact commies) and certainly not close to Marxism.

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Stalin wasnt a fascist, fascism requires a steep emphasis on religion, scapegoating, and a near laissez-faire economic system. None of which were present in stalinist russia. Stalin was a transitional marxist, he was leading the country until the technology would be self sustaining and a communist reality can exist. Of course we know stalin would not have stepped down anyway, but thats what he supposedly was doing

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Facsism does not require any religion other than nationalism.

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