April 7, 200521 yr He knew that the fact the Marlins were being evicted after 2010 was going to really help speed the process up and get the Marlins a new stadium, so now he comes out and says the Marlins can stay. TALLAHASSEE ? The Florida Marlins, who have told lawmakers they will be homeless after 2010, could remain at Dolphins Stadium as far as stadium owner H. Wayne Huizenga is concerned, Senate President Tom Lee said Wednesday. The morning after a Senate economist testified that an analysis of nearly 40 academic studies over several decades shows that new sports arenas do not provide any economic benefit to the state, Lee said he wanted to check out the basic assumption that the Marlins actually needed a new venue. "This has all been pursued on the predicate that we're going to lose baseball in southeast Florida if we don't find a home for the Marlins," said Lee, R-Brandon. "This morning, after yesterday's events, I contacted Mr. Huizenga, and tried to determine as a threshold issue whether or not the Marlins could still have a home at Dolphins Stadium after 2010, and he told me, and authorized me to say to you, that he has absolutely no intention of kicking the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium in 2010. That if they need a home, they will have a home in southeast Florida." Neither Huizenga nor Dolphins Stadium President Bruce Schulze returned phone calls Wednesday. Marlins spokesman P.J. Loyello said the team had no comment on Lee's remarks. Huizenga, former owner of the Marlins and current owner of both the Miami Dolphins and Dolphins Stadium, last year announced plans for major renovations to the park that could include a dome. At the time, a stadium official said and the Marlins confirmed that because of the project, the team would not be allowed to continue playing there after their lease expired in 2010. The Marlins pointed to the development as evidence that they needed a new $60 million state subsidy to build a new, baseball-only park in downtown Miami. Critics say the team is asking for a second $60 million from the state, just 12 years into the original $60 million subsidy given to Huizenga for "retrofitting" his football stadium to allow baseball. Huizenga owned the Marlins and the stadium when the first subsidy was awarded. When he sold the baseball team, the deal included the stadium keeping the subsidy. He will continue getting the $2 million a year for 18 more years, regardless of whether the Marlins stay. Lee said Huizenga's statements to him take much of the pressure off lawmakers, who he said were being led to believe that the Marlins would leave South Florida because they wouldn't have a home if they didn't get state money for a new park. "It was represented to me this morning that that is simply not the case," Lee said. Lee said he is still open to considering the Marlins' request, but that he believes it would be difficult for the team to make a strong "business case" for state help, given the Senate's analysis. A Marlins proposal in the House (HB 1287) is in the Finance and Taxation Committee, whose chairman has said he does not like the subsidy and is not particularly interested in moving it forward.
April 7, 200521 yr Huzienga at it again trying to do some damage. This should fuel the fire for Loria and I think this Stadium will get done with state or no state money. Book it.
April 7, 200521 yr Doesn't sound good. Huizenga is an ass. :banghead Is there any other way to come up with the $30 million??? Can CapeFish write a check to cover the deficit?
April 7, 200521 yr Its Wayne looking out for Wayne. 732458[/snapback] How? How does this affect him? If the Marlins gets the stadium, then he can have all of those "world class" events when they're gone. I fail to see how this is to his advantage if he really thinks he can make more money with the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium.
April 7, 200521 yr Its Wayne looking out for Wayne. 732458[/snapback] How? How does this affect him? If the Marlins gets the stadium, then he can have all of those "world class" events when they're gone. I fail to see how this is to his advantage if he really thinks he can make more money with the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium. 732476[/snapback] Well one, if he kept his stance of "They are gone, I am kicking them out", he ran the risk of losing his tax rebate, this all about kills that. Thats $2 million a year for him. And how much money is he making off of them now? He makes luxury boxes, concessions and part of parking, or something like that doesn't he? I forget what it is exactly but he makes money off the Marlins, plenty, even though he only owns about 1-5% of the team at this point, at least I still think he does, I don't think he ever sold his complete stock of them. If they don't get the stadium and Loria wants to stay in Florida, Wayne will have Jeff by the credntials and make him agree to a nice long deal in which Wayne gets all that lovely concession money, luxury box money and parkins money still in return for Jeff's use of the stadium since he won't have any where else to go.
April 7, 200521 yr Its Wayne looking out for Wayne. 732458[/snapback] How? How does this affect him? If the Marlins gets the stadium, then he can have all of those "world class" events when they're gone. I fail to see how this is to his advantage if he really thinks he can make more money with the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium. 732476[/snapback] Well one, if he kept his stance of "They are gone, I am kicking them out", he ran the risk of losing his tax rebate, this all about kills that. Thats $2 million a year for him. And how much money is he making off of them now? He makes luxury boxes, concessions and part of parking, or something like that doesn't he? I forget what it is exactly but he makes money off the Marlins, plenty, even though he only owns about 1-5% of the team at this point, at least I still think he does, I don't think he ever sold his complete stock of them. If they don't get the stadium and Loria wants to stay in Florida, Wayne will have Jeff by the credntials and make him agree to a nice long deal in which Wayne gets all that lovely concession money, luxury box money and parkins money still in return for Jeff's use of the stadium since he won't have any where else to go. 732487[/snapback] The Marlins have the right to leave if they don't get a good deal. Any business in the Marlins' position would leave South Florida.
April 7, 200521 yr Its Wayne looking out for Wayne. 732458[/snapback] How? How does this affect him? If the Marlins gets the stadium, then he can have all of those "world class" events when they're gone. I fail to see how this is to his advantage if he really thinks he can make more money with the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium. 732476[/snapback] Well one, if he kept his stance of "They are gone, I am kicking them out", he ran the risk of losing his tax rebate, this all about kills that. Thats $2 million a year for him. And how much money is he making off of them now? He makes luxury boxes, concessions and part of parking, or something like that doesn't he? I forget what it is exactly but he makes money off the Marlins, plenty, even though he only owns about 1-5% of the team at this point, at least I still think he does, I don't think he ever sold his complete stock of them. If they don't get the stadium and Loria wants to stay in Florida, Wayne will have Jeff by the credntials and make him agree to a nice long deal in which Wayne gets all that lovely concession money, luxury box money and parkins money still in return for Jeff's use of the stadium since he won't have any where else to go. 732487[/snapback] The Marlins have the right to leave if they don't get a good deal. Any business in the Marlins' position would leave South Florida. 732489[/snapback] And where would they move to if they don't have a stadium? Sentiments are on this board Vegas can't house a team. Washington is no longer an option. I have a feeling if it gets that far along Loria will somehow magically find some money laying around, magically, just like that.
April 7, 200521 yr I still have a hard time believing that a $30 million gap is going to completely destroy a $420 million deal. Obviously they are hoping the money comes from the state, but you would have to think that they have a back up plan to fill the relatively small funding gap.
April 7, 200521 yr Its Wayne looking out for Wayne. 732458[/snapback] How? How does this affect him? If the Marlins gets the stadium, then he can have all of those "world class" events when they're gone. I fail to see how this is to his advantage if he really thinks he can make more money with the Marlins out of Dolphins Stadium. 732476[/snapback] Well one, if he kept his stance of "They are gone, I am kicking them out", he ran the risk of losing his tax rebate, this all about kills that. Thats $2 million a year for him. And how much money is he making off of them now? He makes luxury boxes, concessions and part of parking, or something like that doesn't he? I forget what it is exactly but he makes money off the Marlins, plenty, even though he only owns about 1-5% of the team at this point, at least I still think he does, I don't think he ever sold his complete stock of them. If they don't get the stadium and Loria wants to stay in Florida, Wayne will have Jeff by the credntials and make him agree to a nice long deal in which Wayne gets all that lovely concession money, luxury box money and parkins money still in return for Jeff's use of the stadium since he won't have any where else to go. 732487[/snapback] The Marlins have the right to leave if they don't get a good deal. Any business in the Marlins' position would leave South Florida. 732489[/snapback] And where would they move to if they don't have a stadium? Sentiments are on this board Vegas can't house a team. Washington is no longer an option. I have a feeling if it gets that far along Loria will somehow magically find some money laying around, magically, just like that. 732492[/snapback] Well Las Vegas CAN house a team put it will have to be done with private money. There are other options than Las Vegas, albeit not the greatest options. Anywhere the team moves will be a downgrade from Miami.
April 7, 200521 yr Lee is a certified moron. :banghead 732530[/snapback] A moron enjoying life in Wayne's pocket.
April 7, 200521 yr This is too close to getting done. I think there is a backup plan in place in case that extra $30 million (or $1 million a year for 30 years) cannot be found to bridge the gap.
April 7, 200521 yr This is too close to getting done. I think there is a backup plan in place in case that extra $30 million (or $1 million a year for 30 years) cannot be found to bridge the gap. 732705[/snapback] Yeah we can sell the naming rights to the roof. Len (2008): We'll play under FPL's Retractable Roof tonight here at the Maroone Ballpark at Wayne presents the Orange Bowl Sports Complex!
April 7, 200521 yr Len won't be coming back unless something earthmoving happens. Selling the space on the roof to a sponsor is common. The AmericanAirlines Arena has the outline of a jet on it and the Pepsi Center in Denver has the Dish Network logo on the roof.
April 7, 200521 yr Len won't be coming back unless something earthmoving happens. Selling the space on the roof to a sponsor is common. The AmericanAirlines Arena has the outline of a jet on it and the Pepsi Center in Denver has the Dish Network logo on the roof. 732712[/snapback] Don't worry that earthmoving event will happen... :mischief I meant actually naming the roof. If they really get desperate they can sell ad space on the fish at the aquarium.
April 7, 200521 yr I still have a hard time believing that a $30 million gap is going to completely destroy a $420 million deal. Obviously they are hoping the money comes from the state, but you would have to think that they have a back up plan to fill the relatively small funding gap. 732516[/snapback] bingo. it's just a ruse. i support the rebate, but if it fails, i know they aren't just going to up and leave. i'm not retarded.
April 7, 200521 yr Someone told me Wayne is now welcoming the Marlins back b/c the NFL told Wayne to stick with his plan to get the Super Bowl every three years. That is why Wayne wanted to kick the Marlins to the side. That's what this whole plan to the upgrades to the Pro. Go F*** yourself Wayne
April 8, 200521 yr If the stadium deal falls through im sure you guys won't be calling him an a-hole if the fish have to stay.
April 8, 200521 yr If the stadium deal falls through im sure you guys won't be calling him an a-hole if the fish have to stay. 733972[/snapback] If the deal falls through there is no way the Marlins are staying in Miami. Wayne isn't willing to give up boatloads of money and let a team use his park.
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