July 23, 200323 yr if we get a legit LF, then he needs to go down.... if not, Cabs and TH should platoon in LF.... if TH is hitting
July 23, 200323 yr and where OPS may prove a lot....I dont agree with SABER-matics (or whatever the heck its called). Billy Beane is a pencil-pushing nerd of a GM. A's wont make the playoffs this year. John Sheurholtz knows how to run a team....("I like to look at RBIs and wins as good stats to determine how good a player is"). Seems to work for him.
July 23, 200323 yr Author Cabs going to AAA will do nothing for him but pad his batting stats. The PCL is a hitters' league. The only way he is going to get used to MLB pitching is to have him face MLB pitching. AAA will not help him get adjusted to better pitching! There is a reason pitchers like Willis and Beckett skip AAA and jump straight up to the majors. Cabs will bat .350-.375 in AAA...then what? Wait till next year so he can then get himself adjusted to MLB pitching? We all agree that he is having a hard time facing MLB pitching....we can have him adjust this year (and be much better come next season), or we can send him down to AAA, and have him learn next season (a waste of a good portion of next season). Great Post! Great Post! Great Post! Great Post!
July 23, 200323 yr Cabs going to AAA will do nothing for him but pad his batting stats. The PCL is a hitters' league. The only way he is going to get used to MLB pitching is to have him face MLB pitching. AAA will not help him get adjusted to better pitching! There is a reason pitchers like Willis and Beckett skip AAA and jump straight up to the majors. Cabs will bat .350-.375 in AAA...then what? Wait till next year so he can then get himself adjusted to MLB pitching? We all agree that he is having a hard time facing MLB pitching....we can have him adjust this year (and be much better come next season), or we can send him down to AAA, and have him learn next season (a waste of a good portion of next season). Great Post! Great Post! Great Post! Great Post! Agreed...
July 23, 200323 yr Cabs going to AAA will do nothing for him but pad his batting stats. The PCL is a hitters' league. The only way he is going to get used to MLB pitching is to have him face MLB pitching. AAA will not help him get adjusted to better pitching! There is a reason pitchers like Willis and Beckett skip AAA and jump straight up to the majors. Cabs will bat .350-.375 in AAA...then what? Wait till next year so he can then get himself adjusted to MLB pitching? We all agree that he is having a hard time facing MLB pitching....we can have him adjust this year (and be much better come next season), or we can send him down to AAA, and have him learn next season (a waste of a good portion of next season). Great Post! Great Post! Great Post! Great Post! Did you misread the standings in the paper this morning? The Fish are 4 out and you wanna turn LF into KinderCare and let Cabrera learn on the fly? Frankly, I don't care if it costs Cabrera a year of development if he gets demoted if it's what it takes to improve this team. Ship Cabrera to the Tamarac little league if it means we can get a decent bat in LF. Besides, if Cabrera bats .330+ in AAA for the remiander, it will make him all the more attractive to trade if Lowell re-signs (which he wont).
July 23, 200323 yr I'd agree with platooning him in LF with Hollandsworth. Can't say I'd want to put him at shortstop though. He's not hitting any better than Alex, & if you just want to give SeaBass a night off (like Castillo recently) just give Fox the day at SS. We've seen Cabrera make some nice plays in the outfield and at 3B, I think it's pretty safe to say he wouldn't embarass himself at short.
July 23, 200323 yr Besides, if Cabrera bats .330+ in AAA for the remiander, it will make him all the more attractive to trade if Lowell re-signs (which he wont). Any particular reason they would be wanting to trade Miguel Cabrera??
July 23, 200323 yr Even if Alex is not hitting his Defense is still valuable and if he needs a rest then you put Fox at SS.
July 23, 200323 yr Any particular reason they would be wanting to trade Miguel Cabrera?? If they re-sign Lowell (ehich they wont) you could always take a look at getting a quality LF for Cabs and another starter. Just a thought. Keeping Beinfest's options open for him. Lord knows he'll need them.
July 23, 200323 yr Author Like I said before I'm just curious to see him there. My scenario was not so much that he platooned (day on/day off) with Alex so much as I though, with a win in hand, or a blow-out, a few innings here and there might be good for Alex with two full months left in the season and good for the kid. Maybe he plays Sundays, just to give Aex a chance to stay healthy. I want to see the kid get at least 12-14 at bats a week, somewhere, until he masters MLB pitching, and I have no doubt he will.
July 23, 200323 yr thanks for the laugh, Fish Fillet. Ha....Cabrera trade...... We may be 4 games out, but we brought Cabs up for a reason. Let him stay up here. Why would you want to send Cabs down for a month, just so he can come right back up for the September callups. That will not help anyone! I agree that he is having a tough time with the pitching. So, platoon him at LF (which some guy named Jack McKeon is doing). If anything, send Banks down. I just dont see the sense in sending a young batter down to AAA (unless it is to clear roster space). He is going to have to adjust to MLB pitching one day. Why delay? Because we have a shot at the wild card? No. Keep him up, wild card chances or no.
July 23, 200323 yr and where OPS may prove a lot....I dont agree with SABER-matics (or whatever the heck its called). Billy Beane is a pencil-pushing nerd of a GM. A's wont make the playoffs this year. John Sheurholtz knows how to run a team....("I like to look at RBIs and wins as good stats to determine how good a player is"). Seems to work for him. Do you honestly think RBI's and wins are the best statistics to use in evaluating talent? :banghead
July 23, 200323 yr Do you honestly think RBI's and wins are the best statistics to use in evaluating talent? :banghead Wins-- no RBI-- yes
July 23, 200323 yr Sheurholz has done more with the Braves (I know there are some young guys on this board...but pre-2nd half of 1991, they blew) than Billy Beane has done with the A's. What I am saying is not that Billy Beane sucks as a GM. I am saying that these people who take his Moneyball theories as the Bible need to look at other places. It may work for him, but there are plenty of other ways of building a good/great club. I should never have posted anything on OPS...this thread may turn into a Moneyball thread.
July 23, 200323 yr If they re-sign Lowell (ehich they wont) you could always take a look at getting a quality LF for Cabs and another starter. Just a thought. Keeping Beinfest's options open for him. Lord knows he'll need them. dont throw lowell out the window yet fillet, if the marlins make the playoffs, and fans begin to get excited, and the stadium deal developes further, lowell could stay, COULD
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