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Is he Jewish?

 

I own the entire set of Jewish major leaguers put out by the American Jewish Historical Society and Lance isn't in them, but after a Google search some websites say he is Jewish and other sites say he isn't and he also isn't on the all-time roster of Jewish ball players (http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org/rstr/alltimeRoster2004.pdf).

 

So can anyone here for sure say whether he's Jewish or not?

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Is he Jewish?

 

I own the entire set of Jewish major leaguers put out by the American Jewish Historical Society and Lance isn't in them, but after a Google search some websites say he is Jewish and other sites say he isn't and he also isn't on the all-time roster of Jewish ball players (http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org/rstr/alltimeRoster2004.pdf).

 

So can anyone here for sure say whether he's Jewish or not?

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no.

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Is he Jewish?

 

I own the entire set of Jewish major leaguers put out by the American Jewish Historical Society and Lance isn't in them, but after a Google search some websites say he is Jewish and other sites say he isn't and he also isn't on the all-time roster of Jewish ball players (http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org/rstr/alltimeRoster2004.pdf).

 

So can anyone here for sure say whether he's Jewish or not?

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He tore up his knee playing flag football at church.... that means he's not Jewish.

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Is he Jewish?

 

I own the entire set of Jewish major leaguers put out by the American Jewish Historical Society and Lance isn't in them, but after a Google search some websites say he is Jewish and other sites say he isn't and he also isn't on the all-time roster of Jewish ball players (http://www.jewishmajorleaguers.org/rstr/alltimeRoster2004.pdf).

 

So can anyone here for sure say whether he's Jewish or not?

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no.

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I concur.

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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You're not alone in that regard.

 

And just my opinion (and Accord, this is not directed at you, your family or any other members of this board), but it's stuff like this that fosters anti-semitism, or racism in general, among the smaller minded people in this world. The fact that someone makes a point about religion or race when such a factor is, in general, irrelevant only fosters the grouping mentality of "it's us on this side, and them on that side of the line;" when there's not a need to draw lines in the sand. Why not root instead for a ball player who embodies what you love about the game, and if he's Jewish, Hindew, Muslim or Christian, well, then that's just a bonus. :)

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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You're not alone in that regard.

 

And just my opinion (and Accord, this is not directed at you, your family or any other members of this board), but it's stuff like this that fosters anti-semitism, or racism in general, among the smaller minded people in this world. The fact that someone makes a point about religion or race when such a factor is, in general, irrelevant only fosters the grouping mentality of "it's us on this side, and them on that side of the line;" when there's not a need to draw lines in the sand. Why not root instead for a ball player who embodies what you love about the game, and if he's Jewish, Hindew, Muslim or Christian, well, then that's just a bonus. :)

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This is not fostering anti-semitism or racism and nobody is drawing any lines in the sand or taking sides. You're acting like I root AGAINST players if they aren't Jewish and that's just ridiculous. This has to do with wanting to see people who share the same heritage as you doing well in a sport that you love, period. There is nothing more to it than that!

 

There are hardly any Jewish players in the major leagues or pretty much any professional sport for that matter and because of this I like to see the very small amount of them do well and I follow their careers, there is absolutley nothing wrong with that. It's no different than the entire nation of Japan following the career of Hideki Matsui or the large number of Canadian fans of Gagne.

 

Hopefully Admin will chime in on this thread because I know he shares the same viewpoint as me and also likes to follow the very small amount of Jewish athletes.

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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arent there more catholics in the world so therefore there should be more catholics based on sheer numbers.

 

 

and why do we compare a nation with a religion?

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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arent there more catholics in the world so therefore there should be more catholics based on sheer numbers.

 

 

and why do we compare a nation with a religion?

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While Judaism and Christianity are very similar in many ways, Judaism is more than just a religion, it's a culture within itself and there is a camaraderie among Jews very similar to as if we were a nationality and not a religion and it's something that just doesn't exist in other religions... it's hard to explain but every Jew on here that's reading my post knows exactly what i'm talking about and hopefully one of them will be able to explain this in a better way, I do hope you understand though and i'm not trying to turn this into a religious issue or debate because it's not that.

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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arent there more catholics in the world so therefore there should be more catholics based on sheer numbers.

 

 

and why do we compare a nation with a religion?

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Judaism is more than just a religion, it's a culture within itself and there is a camaraderie among Jews very similar to as if we were a nationality and not a religion. It's hard to explain, but it's not just a religion, it's much more than that.

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ya ya...and if it werent for jews there wouldnt be christianity.

 

 

yadda yadda yadda.

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

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Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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arent there more catholics in the world so therefore there should be more catholics based on sheer numbers.

 

 

and why do we compare a nation with a religion?

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Judaism is more than just a religion, it's a culture within itself and there is a camaraderie among Jews very similar to as if we were a nationality and not a religion. It's hard to explain, but it's not just a religion, it's much more than that.

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ya ya...and if it werent for jews there wouldnt be christianity.

 

 

yadda yadda yadda.

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Huh!?!?!?

 

Anyways, I was editing my post at the same time that you replied, so read my post again....

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i just dont get it.

 

 

i mean its not like i go out searching for german catholics or anything that fits my background and all.

 

 

*shrugs*

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Yeah I know man and I can see exactly what you mean, i'm sure this whole thing seems pretty odd to all of you who aren't Jewish and if I were in your shoes reading this thread I would think it's pretty damn strange too. I wish I could explain it better, but the best way I can put it is that most Jews don't think of Judaism as just a straight forward religion, we like to think of it more along the lines of something like a really big fraternity.

 

And please don't get me wrong, i'm not religious at all, infact I honestly cannot remember the last time I even set foot in a synagogue (probably has to be at least 6+ years), the last thing I want to do is get into a debate on religion :) .

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You're not alone in that regard.

 

And just my opinion (and Accord, this is not directed at you, your family or any other members of this board), but it's stuff like this that fosters anti-semitism, or racism in general, among the smaller minded people in this world. The fact that someone makes a point about religion or race when such a factor is, in general, irrelevant only fosters the grouping mentality of "it's us on this side, and them on that side of the line;" when there's not a need to draw lines in the sand. Why not root instead for a ball player who embodies what you love about the game, and if he's Jewish, Hindew, Muslim or Christian, well, then that's just a bonus. :)

 

 

This is not fostering anti-semitism or racism and nobody is drawing any lines in the sand or taking sides. You're acting like I root AGAINST players if they aren't Jewish and that's just ridiculous. This has to do with wanting to see people who share the same heritage as you doing well in a sport that you love, period. There is nothing more to it than that!

 

There are hardly any Jewish players in the major leagues or pretty much any professional sport for that matter and because of this I like to see the very small amount of them do well and I follow their careers, there is absolutley nothing wrong with that. It's no different than the entire nation of Japan following the career of Hideki Matsui or the large number of Canadian fans of Gagne.

 

Hopefully Admin will chime in on this thread because I know he shares the same viewpoint as me and also likes to follow the very small amount of Jewish athletes.

You're missing his point, I believe. From what I interpreted he means that you singling out players because they are Jewish to root for them a little harder makes other people uncomfortable, because they rather just watch the games and could care less about what religion they belong to. It helps foster anti-semitism because people honestly don't care about what religion the player is, since that is probably the last thing on the scale of importance for performance on the field, and they don't really want to hear about it all.

 

I don't go out of my way to root for Cuban baseball players, or Hispanic ones in general at that. Hell, I think most of the current Cubans are tards minus a select few.

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You're not alone in that regard.

 

And just my opinion (and Accord, this is not directed at you, your family or any other members of this board), but it's stuff like this that fosters anti-semitism, or racism in general, among the smaller minded people in this world.? The fact that someone makes a point about religion or race when such a factor is, in general, irrelevant only fosters the grouping mentality of "it's us on this side, and them on that side of the line;" when there's not a need to draw lines in the sand.? Why not root instead for a ball player who embodies what you love about the game, and if he's Jewish, Hindew, Muslim or Christian, well, then that's just a bonus.? :)

 

 

This is not fostering anti-semitism or racism and nobody is drawing any lines in the sand or taking sides. You're acting like I root AGAINST players if they aren't Jewish and that's just ridiculous. This has to do with wanting to see people who share the same heritage as you doing well in a sport that you love, period. There is nothing more to it than that!

 

There are hardly any Jewish players in the major leagues or pretty much any professional sport for that matter and because of this I like to see the very small amount of them do well and I follow their careers, there is absolutley nothing wrong with that. It's no different than the entire nation of Japan following the career of Hideki Matsui or the large number of Canadian fans of Gagne.

 

Hopefully Admin will chime in on this thread because I know he shares the same viewpoint as me and also likes to follow the very small amount of Jewish athletes.

You're missing his point, I believe. From what I interpreted he means that you singling out players because they are Jewish to root for them a little harder makes other people uncomfortable, because they rather just watch the games and could care less about what religion they belong to. It helps foster anti-semitism because people honestly don't care about what religion the player is, since that is probably the last thing on the scale of importance for performance on the field, and they don't really want to hear about it all.

 

I don't go out of my way to root for Cuban baseball players, or Hispanic ones in general at that. Hell, I think most of the current Cubans are tards minus a select few.

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Ok, so...

 

Jew, Cuban, left-handed...I guess you have a dart board with my picture in the middle? :whistle

 

Anyway, if you aren't Jewish, then you wouldn't understand his initial inquisition. Some people are so judgemental, and you all really just need to leave the religious issues alone--it only leads to conflict which can't be solved without someone being hurt (emotionally or physically).

 

Berkman sure sounds like a Jewish last name--in fact, all the Berkman's I know are Jewish--maybe the mom is Christian and the dad didn't care? Meh, who knows.

 

Only two Jewish baseball players that I'm aware of are Sean Green and the former pitcher for the Braves (can't think of his name)

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I should look up all Catholic ballplayers just for the hell of it.

 

 

 

I really dont understand what the huge deal is...maybe its cause I'm not Jewish and us Catholics dont really care too much about crap like this.

 

 

:)

742447[/snapback]

 

Go to Blockbuster and rent the movie "The Life and Times of Hank Greenberg," after you watch it you'll understand :thumbup .

 

If there were hundreds upon hundreds of Jewish players in the big leagues like there are Catholics, it wouldn't be that big of a deal, but you can count the number of Jewish major leaguers on two hands so when there is a Jew in the big leagues, especially one that is doing well, we take notice :) .

 

It's kind of like some of the Venezuelan fans that bring flags from Venezuela to Marlins games and wave them when Cabs is at bat, we all love Cabs, but the Venezuelan fans love him just that much more since they share the same heritage.

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Makes sense to me. :thumbup I'm Catholic, but I understand why it would matter to you whether or not he's Jewish. It's a question of identity and it matters more to someone who's lifestyle/culture is not part of the majority. Identity issues do not matter to people that are part of the majority or are perceived (at least through practice and looks) as being part of the majority. I am Nicaraguan and I root very hard for any and all Nicaraguan players that reach the big leagues. I root for Vicente Padilla except when it's going to impact the Marlins in some significant way. Nothing wrong with that, is there?

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You're not alone in that regard.

 

And just my opinion (and Accord, this is not directed at you, your family or any other members of this board), but it's stuff like this that fosters anti-semitism, or racism in general, among the smaller minded people in this world. The fact that someone makes a point about religion or race when such a factor is, in general, irrelevant only fosters the grouping mentality of "it's us on this side, and them on that side of the line;" when there's not a need to draw lines in the sand. Why not root instead for a ball player who embodies what you love about the game, and if he's Jewish, Hindew, Muslim or Christian, well, then that's just a bonus. :)

 

 

This is not fostering anti-semitism or racism and nobody is drawing any lines in the sand or taking sides. You're acting like I root AGAINST players if they aren't Jewish and that's just ridiculous. This has to do with wanting to see people who share the same heritage as you doing well in a sport that you love, period. There is nothing more to it than that!

 

There are hardly any Jewish players in the major leagues or pretty much any professional sport for that matter and because of this I like to see the very small amount of them do well and I follow their careers, there is absolutley nothing wrong with that. It's no different than the entire nation of Japan following the career of Hideki Matsui or the large number of Canadian fans of Gagne.

 

Hopefully Admin will chime in on this thread because I know he shares the same viewpoint as me and also likes to follow the very small amount of Jewish athletes.

You're missing his point, I believe. From what I interpreted he means that you singling out players because they are Jewish to root for them a little harder makes other people uncomfortable, because they rather just watch the games and could care less about what religion they belong to. It helps foster anti-semitism because people honestly don't care about what religion the player is, since that is probably the last thing on the scale of importance for performance on the field, and they don't really want to hear about it all.

 

I don't go out of my way to root for Cuban baseball players, or Hispanic ones in general at that. Hell, I think most of the current Cubans are tards minus a select few.

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Ok, so...

 

Jew, Cuban, left-handed...I guess you have a dart board with my picture in the middle? :whistle

 

Anyway, if you aren't Jewish, then you wouldn't understand his initial inquisition. Some people are so judgemental, and you all really just need to leave the religious issues alone--it only leads to conflict which can't be solved without someone being hurt (emotionally or physically).

 

Berkman sure sounds like a Jewish last name--in fact, all the Berkman's I know are Jewish--maybe the mom is Christian and the dad didn't care? Meh, who knows.

 

Only two Jewish baseball players that I'm aware of are Sean Green and the former pitcher for the Braves (can't think of his name)

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Brad Ausmus, Jason Marquis, Scott Schoeneweis, Al Levine, Kevin Youkilis, John Grabow, Justin Wayne, Gabe Kapler and Shawn Green are the only players currently in the big leagues or who were in the big leagues last season that are Jewish.

 

Gabe Kapler is playing in Japan, Justin Wayne was released by the Fish, and Al Levine was released by the Giants.

 

There are also some questionables that deserve asterisks; Mike Lieberthal, David Newhan, and Mike Koplove.

 

Mike Lieberthal's father is Jewish and his mother is Catholic, he was raised Catholic but after an article a few years ago that included him in a list of Jewish ball players he explicitly told the media not to consider him a Jew. So he get's an asterisk.

 

Then there's David Newhan, both of his parents were Jewish and he grew up in an orthadox household, but he became one of those "Jews for Jesus" after he got married a few years ago, therefore he definitely gets a big fat asterisk.

 

Also, Mike Koplove of the D-Backs grew up in a Jewish household but later converted to another religion (not exactly sure what), so he gets an asterisk as well.

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