I dont think its cool for Schilling to come out in the media and say Drays players think their manager is an idiot, especially a guy who has earned a lot of respect like Piniella. That plus saying that Piniella has forgeten how to manage? Um, I think this is old school Piniella if anything. Schilling should have let it go but instead decided to create a media tussle.

 

TORONTO-- A day after Boston pitcher Curt Schilling used the word "idiot" in criticizing Lou Piniella, the Tampa Bay manager held a team meeting and fired back.

 

The Red Sox and Devil Rays tangled Sunday, with two-bench clearing scuffles and six ejections. The teams have had trouble in the past, too.

 

"The problem is when you're playing a team with a manager who somehow forgot how the game is played, there's problems," Schilling said on a Boston radio station Tuesday. "This should have been over a little bit ago. Lou's trying to make his team be a bunch of tough guys, and the telling sign is when the players on that team are saying, 'This is why we lose 100 games a year, because this idiot makes us do stuff like this.' They [Rays players] said that on the field."

 

Piniella called a team meeting before Wednesday night's game at Toronto and issued a statement ripping Schilling.

 

"Forget how the game is played? I have forgotten more baseball than this guy knows," Piniella said.

 

"On the idiot subject, I'm appalled he would actually say something like that. I had a meeting with my team and to a man they denied it. He's questioning my character and integrity and that is wrong. He's never played for me, never really spoken to me, so he really doesn't know what I stand for.

 

"If I were Curt, I would be really embarrassed at the cheap shot he took and get the story correct. I'll tell you I've always admired his pitching ability and competitiveness, but I can honestly tell you I've lost a lot of respect for him. I'm looking forward to talking to Curt myself and get this matter cleared up," he said.

 

Piniella later said he had Tampa Bay's traveling secretary call Boston's traveling secretary to try to get a hold of Schilling. Piniella said had yet to hear from Schilling before the Devil Rays-Blue Jays game.

 

"I was told Curt was going to call," Piniella said. "I'll he happy to pick up the phone if that's what it takes."

 

Boston's game against Baltimore was rained out Wednesday afternoon. Earlier in the day, the Red Sox said Schilling will miss at least two weeks with a bone bruise on his surgically repaired right ankle. Schilling hurt himself while pitching Saturday at Tampa Bay on Saturday.

 

Piniella and Devil Rays pitchers Lance Carter and Dewon Brazelton were ejected Sunday, as were Boston manager Terry Francona, starting pitcher Bronson Arroyo and outfielder Trot Nixon. The ejections in the seventh inning followed a sequence of inside pitches and the two scuffles.

 

The teams have a history of games involving beanballs, including a fight between Pedro Martinez and Gerald Williams on Aug. 29, 2000.

 

Tampa Bay starter Scott Kazmir and Piniella were ejected from a game last September after Kazmir hit Manny Ramirez and Kevin Millar in a span of four pitches. That came one inning after Arroyo hit two batters.

 

Piniella disputed Schilling's claims in the statement.

 

"He talks about making our players tough guys. Well, we do that quite well here but we don't do it by advocating fighting or throwing at opposing hitters. I don't know how many meetings I have had with my pitching coach on this subject," Piniella said.

 

"The problem is, Curt has a short memory. He doesn't remember when he was a young pitcher. We have a lot of young pitchers here and they're trying to learn to pitch at the big league level. Our kids are learning to pitch inside and they have to do that to survive up here. Nobody here wants anyone hit, believe me," he said.

 

After Tampa Bay's game against Toronto, Piniella went off on a TV reporter when he was asked about his dispute with Schilling.

 

Asked if Tampa Bay's recent beanings are a reflection on him, Piniella said sternly: "Why is it going to reflect on me? I don't throw the balls. I don't throw them, I don't throw them and I don't order people getting hit, so it's not going to reflect on me."

 

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2048162

What do you expect from Schilling, he is now a member of the Boston Red Sox. The most unclassy organization of players, fans, and owner.

He is such a douchebag.

Pinella also went off in a TV interview and dropped some bombs. I always liked Sweet Lou for his tenacity

Curt lost my respect after the Congressional testimony. He likes to run his mouth, and that always gets him into trouble.

Schill needs to STFU once in awhile.

Is this really anything new? Schilling always is the first person the media goes to when something controversial is happening because they know that he'll run his mouth and give them something juicy to print...he's an idiot and an ass.

Schilling is a complete jackass

I don't know why you all have Schilling hate. I'm a Yankees fan but I still think Schill is a good guy. He speaks his mind and doesn't say the same cliches you hear from most players.

I don't know why you all have Schilling hate. I'm a Yankees fan but I still think Schill is a good guy. He speaks his mind and doesn't say the same cliches you hear from most players.

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Because he runs his mouth and the clones in Boston eat it up. He's been doing it for years and it gets old. He's the PhishPhan of the MLB.

Because he stands up for his players and his team?

 

Or should he be a faceless clone who just gets played and bitched down by the media? If he feels he has somethign to say, he says it.

 

He has balls.

 

He is the prototype fans' player and one of the most accessible in the league. I wish alot more players were like that.

 

And the most unclassy organization? How the hell do you justify that?

Schilling is a dope, but all the Red Saux fans eat it up since he pitched with a red stained sock he called blood in the playoffs last year, and since they won it all of course.

How are we eating it up? I agree with what he said concerning this. Im damn sure Pinella had them go after the red sox players.

 

Plus, to say the 'Saux' fans are eating it up, is a load of bull s*** because the majority of discussion on SOSH have called out Schilling personally (he posts there) and our pissed that he 'sniped' a player by quoting what he said about Lou. So you all are false in thinking that Red Sox fans are giving him a free pass, he has actually gotten drilled on SOSH.

 

You're s***ting me right? It's not my job to throw a particular player under the bus when he says something about his manager. Snipe? I wasn't sniping, three of our players were thrown at,or hit, one at the head, one on the knee, and another behind the back. That bird don't fly. I was taught at a VERY young age by men with as much or more time than Lou Piniella in the game, that if you are going to pitch inside it's one thing but if you start hitting guys and getting your own guys hit, you better fix it fast.

I was told by a veteran player "If you are gonna pitch inside ok, but if you keep drilling people, and I get drilled, and hurt, I am not gonna be pissed at their guy, I am coming after you."

The big leagues is not the place to learn how to do it. Fact of the matter is Kazmir has hit the same people in his last few starts against us, I don't think he did it on purpose, I don't know, but if you are going to drill our guys, consistently, then there's a price.

I never called Piniella an idiot, his own player did, hell I could play for him any day of the week, he wants to win, but this situation has escalated because he told their guy to hit our guy, after we evened the score more than once.

Now you have our guys getting head balls, and drilled in the knee, because he wants his guys to not be intimidated.

 

Thats from Schilling on SOSH.

 

Any of you would love to have a guy like this on your team.

 

Pinella is getting to be a tired act and hes growing weary of the team he has that isnt getting out of the basement ever. He's trying anything to get his players to play...and who better to do it against than the defending champs?

 

You guys show your bias and baseball sense when you use the same terms 'no class' and idiot, douchebag, etc. Most of you seasoned Fish fans (the 5 or 6 on this board) probably dont like him since his days with the Phils and you let your past hate dictate your comments on something you probably didnt even read, or know all the facts about.

 

I also find it funny for BDiddy-Mays24Bonds25 to call him a jackass when his favorite player is a racist and is known to use a form of steroid.

 

And I also love the fact that certain cituations, comments, and actions from other players and coaches get a free pass on here or no response.

 

Where are the Ozzie Guillen threads? Id say what hes been doing the past few weeks is worst than what Schill has done.

 

Anything dealing with the Red Sox gets immediatley slammed on here and its so played out and tyring. Any team that wins is the enemy to you guys because you bitch that all they do is spend, and their fans (who most of you have never met besides bandwagoners) are arrogant. Why are they arrogant? Because they have a deep passion for their team? Because they have a close knit fan base that actually gives a damn?

 

Why dont some of you just for once take a step back and spit out some of that haterade and actually make an intelligent post that discusses your opinion rather than a one line derogetory remark about a guy who has raised over 700,000 dollars for Lou Gehrigs disease and has never been in trouble with the law or anything else.

 

Im not trying to say Schilling is a saint, but no player is as quick to admit his own wrong:

 

"A pathetic display of pitching all around. I made every mistake I can make at all the wrong possible times. It's easy to look from the outside in and say, `Aw, everything will be all right,' but when you're the guy going through it, you can't assume it's going to be all right. You've got to keep pushing, battle, find a way to make it right."

(After his last game, which he got a loss)

 

So try just one time, to stop being a hater, and be half intelligent for once.

Schilling and Piniella were both wrong

Schilling and Piniella were both wrong

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So what, Piniella should keep quiet and let some injured pitcher with a big mouth diss him?

Schilling is a cool guy and I like how he is fan oriented, etc...

 

I like Lou and his passion and he will always go to bat for his players, so you can't really rip him either.

 

I will say that I feel Schilling should be able to speak his mind freely without being bashed, however, he should be above calling everyone he ripped on in the interview and idiot. He is bigger than that and he should be able to call Lou or whoever out without all of that.

Again noone reads...he never called Pinella an idiot.

Again noone reads...he never called Pinella an idiot.

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I said I like Schil and Lou both, but he should not have let this transpire: ""The problem is when you're playing a team with a manager who somehow forgot how the game is played, there's problems," Schilling said on a Boston radio station Tuesday. "This should have been over a little bit ago. Lou's trying to make his team be a bunch of tough guys, and the telling sign is when the players on that team are saying, 'This is why we lose 100 games a year, because this idiot makes us do stuff like this.' They [Rays players] said that on the field.""

 

He should have been above that. There was no need to say that his team thinks he is an idiot, etc... Everyone knows it won't be proved one way or another and that nobody would fess up to it, truth or not. It was just not a great move and something that should have not been said. Also, as a pitcher in the AL, I really wonder when he would have had a conversation with the opposing players on the field. It would have had to be after this, but wasn't the series over then so it would have been pre-game and I doubt it would have been during the fight with tempers flaring. It's just a stupid situation.

 

I personally could care less really, but its my 2 cents. If I was going to pick a Boston argument that should have been harped on more, it would have been Trot calling out ARod. At least Schilling has proven that he is an elite player. Either way, the manager player stuff with Ozzie-Magglio, Lou-Schil is dumb. Players and managers from opposing teams should be more worried about their own teams than other people.

The problem is not that he took Lou to task for throwing Passion. Being critical of other managers if fine. Every fish fan backed up Cliff Floyd when he got into it with Bobby Valentine and called him names.

 

The problem I have with Schilling is that he stuck his head in the Tampa clubhouse rather than keeping it between him and Lou. By coming out saying Tampa players called their manager an idiot, he creates a rift over there. That kind of stuff should be kept in house. It shouldnt be Curt Schilling telling the media "hey look over at that team, their players hate their manager."

 

Wouldnt it piss you off if a player on another team told hte media that Red Sox players think Francona is an idiot and have said this in private? What does that do to Francona's relationship with his team? Curt Schilling crossed the line when he said Tampa players called their manager an idiot. Thats about as childish as telling someone their friends talk about them behind their back. Clearly Curt was sharing the mindset of a 15 year old teenage girl.

Curt Schilling's just a blowhard that can't keep his mouth shut...he's a douchebag that enjoys criticizing people just for the media attention

Schilling needs to grow up.

Schilling needs to grow up.

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Seems like ever since Boston won the WS they won't shut the f*** up. Seems like these guys have never heard of the "Act like you've been there." cliche.

Schilling needs to grow up.

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Seems like ever since Boston won the WS they won't shut the f*** up. Seems like these guys have never heard of the "Act like you've been there." cliche.

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They havent been there.

 

No team has the media down their throats 24/7 like these guys either. You are going to get dumb/stupid quotes from people when they are hounded constantly.

Schilling needs to grow up.

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Seems like ever since Boston won the WS they won't shut the f*** up. Seems like these guys have never heard of the "Act like you've been there." cliche.

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They havent been there.

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Schilling was there only a few years ago!

 

And Schilling is the one to blame for this turning into a media frenzy.

Schilling needs to grow up.

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Seems like ever since Boston won the WS they won't shut the f*** up. Seems like these guys have never heard of the "Act like you've been there." cliche.

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They havent been there.

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Schilling was there only a few years ago!

 

And Schilling is the one to blame for this turning into a media frenzy.

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Hes the one that writes the stories and operates the TV cameras?