Bradcore Posted May 25, 2005 Share Posted May 25, 2005 PETERSBURG - Ken Ham wants to save your soul. He's so bent on that mission that he has spent 11 years in Northern Kentucky creating a museum to answer one of the most debated questions of our time: When and how did life begin? Soon, visitors to Ham's still-unfinished Creation Museum will experience his view: that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. This literal interpretation of the Bible runs counter to accepted scientific theory, which says Earth and its life forms evolved over billions of years. Undaunted by considerable opponents, Ham's Answers in Genesis ministry is building a $25 million monument to creationism. The largest museum of its kind in the world, it hopes to draw 600,000 people from the Midwest and beyond in its first year. "When that museum is finished, it's going to be Cincinnati's No. 1 tourist attraction," says the Rev. Jerry Falwell, nationally known Baptist evangelist and chancellor of Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. "It's going to be a mini-Disney World." Ham sees the museum as a way of reaching more people - along with the Answers in Genesis Web site, which claims to get 10 million page views per month, and his "Answers ... with Ken Ham" radio show, carried by more than 725 stations worldwide. That's in addition to his talks around the country, the sales of books and DVD's, newsletters e-mailed to 120,000 people and Creation magazine, which has 25,000 U.S. subscribers. "People will get saved here," Ham says of the museum. "It's going to fire people up. If nothing else, it's going to get them to question their own position of what they believe." Primed to fight He walks briskly through the privately funded museum, pausing at a life-size model of a 40-foot-long, 14-foot-tall Tyrannosaurus rex. Ham, 53, appears far less ferocious - there's a resemblance to Abraham Lincoln - but he is primed to fight, too. "It's a foundational battle," he says, his Australian accent unmistakeable. "You've got to get people believing the right history - and believing that you can trust the Bible." Ham's views of history and science are based on a literal reading of Genesis, the first book of the Old Testament. Among other things, he believes that: Earth is about 6,000 years old, a figure arrived at by tracing the biblical genealogies, and not 4.5 billion years, as mainstream scientists say. The Grand Canyon was formed not by erosion over millions of years, but by floodwaters in a matter of days or weeks. Dinosaurs and man once co-existed, and dozens of the creatures - including T-rex... Read more at the source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FutureGM Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Somebody needs to take their medicine. Apparently some writing in a book is more believable than conclusive scientific evidence. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minus Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Somebody needs to take their medicine. Apparently some writing in a book is more believable than conclusive scientific evidence. Oh well. 783354[/snapback] Conclusive ? No.... Far from conclusive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Are we going to get into this damn argument again. Religious issues are a matter of faith, you cant convince a religious person of the alternative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildMarlinMan2003 Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 I thought this thread was about Lenny Harris at first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Are we going to get into this damn argument again. Religious issues are a matter of faith, you cant convince a religious person of the alternative 784325[/snapback] Having faith is great (no sarcasm) and helpful to many people, but the debate is moving from beyond the personal to American society as a whole. HAve no doubt that articles like the one in bradcore's previous post and this museum are merely salvos in a war to eradicate evolution and replace it with psuedo-Christianity aka intelligent design. And this battle is a smaller piece to an even bigger war pitting religious people, deluded by DobsonCO, that the world will come to an end in their lifetimes, the UN is the devil, Democrats are the devil, science and the media are the devil, etc, etc. It's almost as simple as that, for the followers. The manipulators know exactky what they are doing and probably don't believe half of what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hotcorner Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Soon, visitors to Ham's still-unfinished Creation Museum will experience his view: that God created the world in six, 24-hour days on a planet just 6,000 years old. .. Probably figured the museum could be built in 6 days too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shamrock Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 Wonder if he includes a completely naked rendition of Adam and Eve. Gotta be faithful to the account, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted May 26, 2005 Share Posted May 26, 2005 So the ice age didnt happen? Carbon 14 dating of artifacts, fossils, and bones found are false? Do they believe this stuff too: Taken literally, the Bible says the earth is flat and setting on pillars and cannot move (1 Chr 16:30, Ps 93:1, Ps 96:10, 1 Sam 2:8, Job 9:6). It says that great sea monsters are set to guard the edge of the sea (Job 41, Ps 104:26) According to the Bible, the sun moves around the earth, not the other way around (Josh 10:12-13). We all recall from history, the fate of Galileo and Copernicus for their blasphemous claims that the earth is round and that the earth goes round the sun. http://www.newreformation.org/literalism.htm People who interpret the Bible literally and no different from those who interpret the Koran literally and wage terror because of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman totale Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Dinosaurs and man once co-existed, Wow - you learn something every day. I assume 'The Gospel According to Hanna-Barbera' was edited out of the bible early on... :plain If it wasn't for the fact I'd be making money for these fruitcakes, I'd be tempted to go to this place just for the comedy-value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish Tank Frenzy Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I thought this thread was about Lenny Harris at first. 784373[/snapback] Im a fan of Lenny but I couldnt help but LOL when I read this :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacyofCangelosi Posted June 1, 2005 Share Posted June 1, 2005 People that think freely are often against the UN, media bias and other such things. The religious manipulation is similar to the leftist manipulation that the world is a horrible place to live in b.c of rich people, patriotism, and religion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackarmstrong Posted June 8, 2005 Share Posted June 8, 2005 it's a free country, the guy can make a museum of whatever he wants... but for real, how nuts is this guy? at least in the 1800s, creationists could say that the fossils were all placed there by the devil, especially as God would never allow one of His species to become extinct. not an argument i'd buy but at least it's consistent with creationism. but this guy is saying that all those prehistoric species existed, lived, and then became extinct in a period of 6000 years? and regardless what people think of evolution and the origin of life, the carbon-dating evidence for the earth being several billion years old is conclusive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 As a Christian person this disgusts me. I'm so tired of some on The Agnostic and Christian side constantly push their beliefs down the opposite's throats like it actually is going to do them good. Neither side has a single piece of evidence that is going to rock the other, and it's constantly a war. Most on both sides are good people who have no interest in pushing their beliefs, yet the most vocal, negative SOB's on each side always get to repersent a broad seas of people. I watch a show like Penn and Teller's BS try to completely rip Christian people as the most vile people on earth and then see an ignorant SOB like Falwell and to not rule out my own catholics Daugherty(I probably mispelled it but this guy is usually the mouthpiece for catholics.). It's mindboggling that people can't simply be secure enough in their own belief to carry out their own lives not worrying about what their co-worker chooses to believe. Long story short, Your belief, Your life, and being that it's your right I am not the one to choose for you. You have to decide what you want to do what your life and not let a wacko museum or someone pushing every scientific study down your throat choose for you. Sorry for that rant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying_Mollusk Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 where the heck have you been rune? btw, whats your opinion on Casey v. Santorum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasportsfan88 Posted June 11, 2005 Share Posted June 11, 2005 Let them waste their 25 million, no one worth anything will believe it anyway... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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