The good news? We're drawing about 600 more people on average to games than last year. The bad news? We've slipped from ranking 26 out of 30 in attendance back down to 28 out of 30. The next-worst team in attendance that's playing over-.500 ball is the Oakland A's -- and they're averaging nearly 3,500 more fans a game than the Marlins.

 

Hey, I could understanding ranking 28 or 29th in attendance when our team blew and lost 100 games. But now? WTF? Combine the poor attendance with the poor local media coverage (see thread entitled "65 Seconds") and you can understand why Jeff Loria is meeting with the Vegas mayor.

When exactly "is" Jeffrey Loria meeting with the mayor of Las Vegas, for that when did he? I don't know that there has ever been a meeting between the two.

 

And if this team continues to be in the hunt throughout September, considering the schedule, there is no reason to believe we won't finish up significantly better than previous years.

I think if this team is still in the hunt for a playoff spot by mid-September, we could consistently see crowds of 30,000+ for Friday and Weekend games and 20,000 for Weekday games.

 

 

 

We aren't averaging 10,000 fans a night any more and I'm sure ownership is well aware of it. Give it more time...

I thought it was random members of the Marlins FO met with members of the Vegas FO but nothing was extensively discussed, and that was a while ago as well. I don't think, with the way MLB frets on gambling, there will ever be anything above AAA ball in Vegas.

What's with the title to this thread? Attendance isn't sagging, you even admit that it's up an average of 600 people per game. One of the reasons we're down in ranking from last year is the Expos moved to DC. I could care less where we rank, as long as we're improving attendance year-by-year.

I have not looked at any stats at all, but I have to say that I am very encouraged about attendance this year.

 

I don't remember many games (if any) where there have been right around 10,000, and that usually is a staple of Marlins baseball. What that tells me is that we actually are building a decent fan base. Give us five years of decent baseball and I bet even on weekdays 10,000 is our low.

 

One thing that seems to have hurt us this year is that there haven't been any huge series'. Usually we have 2-3 series' per year that we pack the house, but this year we haven't had that. What that tells me is that there is not much variance, which actually is a good thing.

What's with the title to this thread? Attendance isn't sagging, you even admit that it's up an average of 600 people per game. One of the reasons we're down in ranking from last year is the Expos moved to DC. I could care less where we rank, as long as we're improving attendance year-by-year.

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The attendance for the marlins over the last 5 years has gone up every year. Our numbers this year is way above where we were 5 years ago as well.

 

Now if you put the crowds like saterday night (32,000 I believe about sold). Into a new stadium they are projecting (36,000-38,000 plus alot of that is sweets) Then that would be pretty much a sell out for a last place team.

 

That is pretty good numbers folks. Give it time and it will go up., In another 5 years the marlins will be over 30k a year if they get their own home around where Joe Robbie is.

Hey, if the Marlins do move, move them up here to the midwest. :thumbup They could probably draw larger crowds up here despite having to compete for fans with the two Chicago teams, the Brewers, and the Tigers. I live in West Michigan so I am right in the middle of the fan bases for those teams. I don't see a lot of fans for the Ohio teams though. I still wonder if maybe Indiana could support a team... I'd be very disappointed if the Marlins moved to Vegas.

 

But hey, apparently people from Southern Florida love their lousy Dolphins and don't care much for good baseball. The Marlins have a lot of talent and some players that are very fun to watch. I wish I lived down there and I still dream of moving there after my military commitment and when I finally finish college. But if the Marlins are just going to move out of Florida, then I should probably sit and wait to see what happens.

I don't remember many games (if any) where there have been right around 10,000, and that usually is a staple of Marlins baseball. What that tells me is that we actually are building a decent fan base. Give us five years of decent baseball and I bet even on weekdays 10,000 is our low.

 

 

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I went to the first game against our alleged "rivals" the Phillies and that night drew under 10,000, that isn't including the no-shows. Pretty sad.

Attendance isn't sagging. It's up 5% from last year and it's been gaining steam the last few homestands.

 

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We have already surpassed last years number of 20-29k games. The numbers are becoming more consistent.

The Marlins play in a football stadium in basically the middle of nowhere. They need a downtown stadium.

There is never going to be a huge jump attendance here, but seeing good crowds more regularly is a good sign. This year, there have been under 16,000 5 times out of 59 games (8%). Last year, there were under 16,000 26 times out of 78 games (33%).

There is never going to be a huge jump attendance here, but seeing good crowds more regularly is a good sign. This year, there have been under 16,000 5 times out of 59 games (8%). Last year, there were under 16,000 26 times out of 78 games (33%).

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That's exactly what I was talking about. The overall figure of 5% is nice, but that figure is excellent. 16,000 is somewhat respectable, and a long ways from our putrid 10,000 nights. Even staying in DS we are gaining momentum, I think a new stadium would put us right near the middle in attendance, at least in the beginning. Over the long term I think we could rank in the 15-20 range in attendance year in and year out.

There is never going to be a huge jump attendance here, but seeing good crowds more regularly is a good sign.? This year, there have been under 16,000 5 times out of 59 games (8%).? Last year, there were under 16,000 26 times out of 78 games (33%).

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That's exactly what I was talking about. The overall figure of 5% is nice, but that figure is excellent. 16,000 is somewhat respectable, and a long ways from our putrid 10,000 nights. Even staying in DS we are gaining momentum, I think a new stadium would put us right near the middle in attendance, at least in the beginning. Over the long term I think we could rank in the 15-20 range in attendance year in and year out.

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You can manipulate the numbers a million ways 'til Sunday, but the fact remains that the Marlins' attendance is putrid when compared to other competitive teams. Someone on the "AJ blasts fans" thread put it best when they said that watching the Rockies this year is like watching people find the weak spot in baby's skulls, yet they are undrawing the wild card chasing Marlins.

 

Stop making excuses. Let's all admit that the fan support isn't there, isn't about to be there anytime soon, and move on, shall we?

Stop making excuses. Let's all admit that the fan support isn't there, isn't about to be there anytime soon, and move on, shall we?

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Moneyball isn't making excuses. He has done a very good job at breaking down the figures which you contradicted yourself in analyzing. The fact is that the Marlins are drawing larger and more consistent crowds than they did at any time since after 1997. The fact is also there that average what they are, with a pennant race left, you can expect a rise in attendance. Last year, even though the Fish were out of it, the last few home games had very nice sized crowds. People in Miami are learning to appreciate baseball, but it takes time.