You have heared of all kind of crazy ideas in this forum before like manny and furcal and even vasquez to be dealt to the marlins. But i think the marlins should really think about trimming their payroll and instant keep it at $65mil or go up to $70mil. People want to see big names on the field and yes i know that we had delgado last year, but a good team usually have 3 to 4. So how about signing sosa who many are saying he is going to japan to finish his career. Why not give him a shoot he is not that $20 mil a year guy he once was but he is still a powerful hitter. Instead of talking to juicer palmerio, hear what sammy gots to say.

He could probably be in the same price range as conine, which he is getting 3 million if he comes back. How many more fans would go and see sosa compared to conine, i would say about 500 thousand to 1 million people. You can put him as a reserve or trade lowell and put miggy on third, hermida on LF and Sosa on RF.

You must not be up to date on the news... we're definitely not going up to $70 million and probably won't be at $65 million.

Sosa is no longer a "powerful hitter". We dont need a cancer like him on our team, and I would go to see Conine over Sosa any day of the week.

The only place this has been mentioned was Matt Pouliet's column on Rotoworld.

 

When I queried Matt about it, he admitted he had to put Sammy somewhere and almost embarrassingly admitted it was a throw-in, and he wasn't really serious.

 

There is no place for Sammy with the Marlins and no one I know would take Sammy over Conine, who btw isn't going to make anywhere near $3 million in '06. I wish SS luck in his future endeavors but it won't be in Miami.

No, but I could see where the front office would attempt to. Often they pander to the community with their signings.

This owership has gotten really close to having a stadium that they are going to lose everything by having a rebuilding year. All iam saying is instead of doing that try keeping the payroll the same and sign sosa for cheap and see how many more people come out to see the games. People want to see big names out there and yes miggy and willis are good but their names arent out there with the big ones yet. Not until this year when willis won 22 games and miggy had another good year, that the media mention their names. You put sosa in the middle with all the media that follows him and iam pretty sure they are going to catch on more on willis,beckett and cabrera. Sosa could really put the marlins name out there, local and nationally. Willis,beckett,cabrera,delgado and sosa you dont think they will get more tv time. delgado itself did that last year when espn televised 3 straight games to open the season and 2 more the following week against the phillies. Conine in 131 games hit 3hr 33rbi in 335ab and sosa in 102 games hit 14hr 45rbi in 380ab. Come on conine over sosa for the same price, RIGHT.

Wujcm, aren't you a Mets fan? :mischief2

Find a solution to get a stadium and the organization making more money makes me a mets fan. Rachel i bet your a cubs fan aka white sox fan. :mischief2

How many more fans would go and see Conine compared to Sosa, i would say about 500 thousand to 1 million people.

 

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Conine is a huge draw at Dolphins Stadium. Every time he pinch hits he is received well.

 

If you sign a .200 hitter with declining power and put him in the outfield I would imagine that would hurt attendance.

 

I live in Baltimore, so I know what Sosa can do in terms of attendance. Based on 2005, I would say that Sosa may actually have prevented people from showing up at Camden Yards. He was pretty much viewed as the running joke of the team. He got zero respect from fans here.

 

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if the marlins sign sosa, i will seriously re-consider my trip to houston for opening day.

 

well maybe i'll just root for the astros that day, because we obviously would have already mailed it in.

How many more fans would go and see Conine compared to Sosa, i would say about 500 thousand to 1 million people.

 

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Conine is a huge draw at Dolphins Stadium. Every time he pinch hits he is received well.

 

If you sign a .200 hitter with declining power and put him in the outfield I would imagine that would hurt attendance.

 

I live in Baltimore, so I know what Sosa can do in terms of attendance. Based on 2005, I would say that Sosa may actually have prevented people from showing up at Camden Yards. He was pretty much viewed as the running joke of the team. He got zero respect from fans here.

Wow thats incredible because at first you guys were selling out and doing good on attendence, but wasnt it after your long losing streak that killed your season and this is without sammy in the lineup that your attendence went down. Dont blame it all on sammy.

I remember hearing this when the marlins were going to sign delgado everybody was against it. Everybody was saying he was to old, to much money, he has never been to the playoff,he is not a good defensive fielder, national league is not suited for him, all kinds of crap and now he's a hero that nobody wants to see leave. I can see it know, everybody saying how much they love sammy and that they dont want to see him leave next year.

How many more fans would go and see Conine compared to Sosa, i would say about 500 thousand to 1 million people.

 

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Conine is a huge draw at Dolphins Stadium. Every time he pinch hits he is received well.

 

If you sign a .200 hitter with declining power and put him in the outfield I would imagine that would hurt attendance.

 

I live in Baltimore, so I know what Sosa can do in terms of attendance. Based on 2005, I would say that Sosa may actually have prevented people from showing up at Camden Yards. He was pretty much viewed as the running joke of the team. He got zero respect from fans here.

really, so the people that went to see the marlin games was to see conine sit on the bench or start a few games. Wow all this time I thought it was delgado,cabrera, willis on his starts, and the deadly lineup that we had. Conine bringing in attendence, never did it in his younger days, and now that he is older he is a big ticket attarction. RIGHT :thumbup

Sosa should compete with Hermida for the starting job...

 

Not have it given to him...

I don't really want Sosa on the Marlins, but that doesn't mean I couldn't see it happening, nor would I see it as a sign of "mailing it in."

 

If the Marlins could carry the automatic out that was Mike Lowell last season, they could carry Sammy Sosa this coming season (since's Sosa's presence would be reliant on Lowell's departure)...not to mention, a 'roid free Sosa out produced a 'roid free Lowell in '05.

 

If the Marlins could somehow get Conine and Sosa signed for a combined $4 million, and let Conine, Hermida and Sosa compete for the 2 corner outfield spots with Willingham thrown in for good measure, I'd be interested, competition is never a bad thing in the sporting world...

Perhaps a better idea would be for Sosa to sign with the Mets.

 

Certainly Carlos Beltran doesn't deserve to have a job handed to him, not after his atrocious (for the $$$) season or Cameron with a lousy dozen homeruns, certainly Sammy would look good running out into right field for the Mets next season.

Perhaps a better idea would be for Sosa to sign with the Mets.

 

Certainly Carlos Beltran doesn't deserve to have a job handed to him, not after his atrocious (for the $$$) season or Cameron with a lousy dozen homeruns, certainly Sammy would look good running out into right field for the Mets next season.

 

 

I'm not sure if that was directed at my post or not, but if it is, I'm not saying that the job should be Hermida's to win, it should be his to lose, but Conine and his light hitting may be the one on the bubble.

 

It's certainly an issue of preference, and if Sosa's only going to hit 10-15 homeruns while batting .240, it's a non issue, but if Lowell is a sure bet to return to form, why isn't Sosa? I mean, if both those guys come back at 80% of what they once were, Sosa would be an upgrade over Lowell or Conine.

Rest assured Swifty old friend, it wasn't aimed in your direction, didn't even cross my mind.

I will take a chance on Sosa. I mean it all depends on how much hes asking?? Are we talkin 3 Mil? If so I would do it in a heart beat!! Maybe the AL just wasnt for him.. That would give us more depth too with niner

Sosa is no longer a "powerful hitter". We dont need a cancer like him on our team, and I would go to see Conine over Sosa any day of the week.

 

He did struggle a lot in his first season away from Wrigley. I think he can still be productive, but no where near he used to be.

Sosa is no longer a "powerful hitter". We dont need a cancer like him on our team, and I would go to see Conine over Sosa any day of the week.

 

He did struggle a lot in his first season away from Wrigley. I think he can still be productive, but no where near he used to be.

 

Agree, dont expect him to be old 65 Homer Sammy but I do think he still can produce 25 homers 80 RBI it all depends...

 

Lets say we sign Sammy and we keep delgado... Can you imagine that 3-4-5 (Carlos, Miggy, Sosa?) Pitchers would have to pitch to him if cabby and delgado were to get on

Sammy Sosa stopped filling the seats two years ago. He is no longer the legend he was in years past. He's just a clown now. I rather spend the cash on Conine. Atleast you can be certain he won't miss a majority of the season with back problems caused by a sneeze.

Perhaps a better idea would be for Sosa to sign with the Mets.

 

Certainly Carlos Beltran doesn't deserve to have a job handed to him, not after his atrocious (for the $$$) season or Cameron with a lousy dozen homeruns, certainly Sammy would look good running out into right field for the Mets next season.

 

 

I'm not sure if that was directed at my post or not, but if it is, I'm not saying that the job should be Hermida's to win, it should be his to lose, but Conine and his light hitting may be the one on the bubble.

 

It's certainly an issue of preference, and if Sosa's only going to hit 10-15 homeruns while batting .240, it's a non issue, but if Lowell is a sure bet to return to form, why isn't Sosa? I mean, if both those guys come back at 80% of what they once were, Sosa would be an upgrade over Lowell or Conine.

finally someone that gets the big picture. We are looking at a guy that was one of the top baseball player in the league 3 years ago and now that he may have to sign a Minor League contract with an invitation to Spring Training. Wow that would be a great bargin.

"...but if Lowell is a sure bet to return to form, why isn't Sosa?"

 

 

Now to address your question Swift, the difference is one of health, both mental and physical. Lowell has been reasonably healthy during his drought, and has never been accused of being a malingerer, while Sosa has been chronically hurt with his bad back and a bad attitude that caused team problems in both Chicago and Baltimore. I'm almost embarrassed to use both their names in the same sentence, being that they are polar opposites.

 

Certainly Sammy has never been known as a defensive specialist either, and Mike, he of the hidden ball trick and Gold Glove, is without doubt.

 

I'd sooner give Brett Boone a looksee than the Corkster, and I suspect most Marlins fans would too. He has a taint about him, he has quit on two teams already, let's not make it a trifecta.

 

If Sammy wants to continue his career it's either Flushing or Mt. Fugi where he should be headed.

"...but if Lowell is a sure bet to return to form, why isn't Sosa?"

 

 

Now to address your question Swift, the difference is one of health, both mental and physical. Lowell has been reasonably healthy during his drought, and has never been accused of being a malingerer, while Sosa has been chronically hurt with his bad back and a bad attitude that caused team problems in both Chicago and Baltimore. I'm almost embarrassed to use both their names in the same sentence, being that they are polar opposites.

I was referring more to the overwhelming sentiment here that Lowell actually has value, and that you can't give up on a guy after one down season.

 

Yes, I understand that Sosa has more of a stigma over him than Lowell does, but honestly, that's just because Sosa played better in bigger markets where people actually cared about baseball, not to mention his sour relationship with the media led to some finger pointing.

 

I don't think either bounces back, to be honest, but Sosa at $3 million makes a lot more sense than Lowell at $9 million, but again, I know that's apples to oranges.

I don't think either bounces back, to be honest, but Sosa at $3 million makes a lot more sense than Lowell at $9 million, but again, I know that's apples to oranges.

 

 

Agree, I would take the extra 6 Mil in CASH and take the risk on Sosa.. Although I dont want to see Mike go, thats the nature of the game...