RockyMountainMarlin Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Because he gave us great times the last couple of years and now that he has gone the franchise is beginning to crumble. This week might go down as one of the worst weeks in SoFla sports history along with the 98 firesale and the Dolphins playoff loss to the Jags and Marino's following retirement. :thumbdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Because he gave us great times the last couple of years and now that he has gone the franchise is beginning to crumble. This week might go down as one of the worst weeks in SoFla sports history along with the 98 firesale and the Dolphins playoff loss to the Jags and Marino's following retirement. :thumbdown No, because we know for a fact that we'll get quality players in return (ML ready even). '97 was all about trading stars for might-be's. If the only two big pieces we trade are Delgado and Beckett, then it's nowhere near as bad as '97. But I share your sentiments about Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiRi Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 :crying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Heh. He's partially the reason why it crumbled. He couldn't lead a high priced talented veteran squad to the playoffs. This is not the worst thing that can happen. Some might argue that this had to happen or else something worse would. Those who are freaking out do not know or do not want to admit the problems the Marlins face. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Moneyball Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 There is nothing to give thanks about this Thanksgiving relating to the Marlins. The franchise's future is as cloudy as ever. On and off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prinmemito Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I agree with Rferry. Jack is partly responsible for this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 OK, I guess we can talk about this until we are blue in the face, but Jack is not to blame for the Marlins not reaching the postseason. I guess it's his fault that A.J went 0-5, or whatever, at the end of the season after his 7-0 run... I guess it's his fault that Mike Lowell struggled all year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Das Texan Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I give thanks to the great memories brought to us courtsey of the on field staff, Jack McKeon and Jeff Loria along with the entire front office. Too bad the joy of that season is quickly fading into a distant memory. Thanks South Florida and Florida in general. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Mike Lowell's more individually to blame than Jack McKeon, but that isn't to say I'm freeing him from total blame. If anything, Admin Beinfest not promoting Jeremy Hermida before September 1st is more to blame than any questionable bullpen management that McKeon made. Hermida could have been a spark to the team like Francoeur was to the Braves...ah well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 If anything, Admin Beinfest not promoting Jeremy Hermida before September 1st Yeah cuz he would have gotten so much playing time. :plain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 If anything, Admin Beinfest not promoting Jeremy Hermida before September 1st Yeah cuz he would have gotten so much playing time. :plain He would have at least split time with Conine or Encarnacion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Would he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 Would he? He did down the stretch, what makes July or August any different? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinFan10 Posted November 20, 2005 Share Posted November 20, 2005 I agree. Loria trusted Jack too long. In 2004 and 2005, the Marlins had the talent to win the NL East, but underacheived significantly. We can also be thankful to Bill Robinson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshFish Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 Thank You AJ for blasting the fans of this sorry ass organization. and keep it up while you look for a 50 million dollar sucker, we are used to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I agree. Loria trusted Jack too long. In 2004 and 2005, the Marlins had the talent to win the NL East, but underacheived significantly. We can also be thankful to Bill Robinson. To that point, as Jack had more influence on the coaching staff around him, the more lackadaisical team play became. Clubhouse energy was on the constant decline throughout 2004 and 2005. Jack didn't have the foresight to surround himself with youthful, energetic men that could balance his old and experienced ways. Even with that, I feel quite a bit of gratitude to Jack for the wonderful ride we had in 2003. We could be Cubs fans, or Rockies fans, or Devil Ray fans......still hoping and waiting. Two rings since our inception isn't bad at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DogFish Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I agree. Loria trusted Jack too long. In 2004 and 2005, the Marlins had the talent to win the NL East, but underacheived significantly. We can also be thankful to Bill Robinson. To that point, as Jack had more influence on the coaching staff around him, the more lackadaisical team play became. Clubhouse energy was on the constant decline throughout 2004 and 2005. Jack didn't have the foresight to surround himself with youthful, energetic men that could balance his old and experienced ways. and I bet he tried but there were a lot of factors involved (money being just one of them). You really think he didnt want a Ozzie-like personality (Latin and energetic)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBMarlin Posted November 21, 2005 Share Posted November 21, 2005 I agree. Loria trusted Jack too long. In 2004 and 2005, the Marlins had the talent to win the NL East, but underacheived significantly. We can also be thankful to Bill Robinson. To that point, as Jack had more influence on the coaching staff around him, the more lackadaisical team play became. Clubhouse energy was on the constant decline throughout 2004 and 2005. Jack didn't have the foresight to surround himself with youthful, energetic men that could balance his old and experienced ways. and I bet he tried but there were a lot of factors involved (money being just one of them). You really think he didnt want a Ozzie-like personality (Latin and energetic)? No I don't. Jack could have hired anyone he wanted and he ended up with Wiley as pitching coach, Cox at 3B and Dunlop on the bench.....guys more of his mindset. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMountainMarlin Posted November 23, 2005 Author Share Posted November 23, 2005 I wanna thank Billy the Marlin! I hope that someday if I have kids you'll still be around to meet them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMountainMarlin Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 And I want to thank the Turkey that I ate, that was so big, it might actually have been taller than Dave Sampson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsprt05 Posted November 25, 2005 Share Posted November 25, 2005 And I want to thank the Turkey that I ate, that was so big, it might actually have been taller than Dave Sampson Where do you buy such small turkeys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockyMountainMarlin Posted November 25, 2005 Author Share Posted November 25, 2005 And I want to thank the Turkey that I ate, that was so big, it might actually have been taller than Dave Sampson Where do you buy such small turkeys? The City of Miami wouldn't help fund my Thanksgiving dinner so I had to go on my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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