I think a trade like this would really help both teams. Gathright would start in CF for the Marlins and Green could start at 2B if Ramirez and Uggla aren't ready for prime-time, or in LF if Reed isn't ready.

 

The Devil Rays don't need Green anymore. Rivas and Wigginton are gonna chew up all his playing time. Olsen would move into their starting rotation as long as his bad elbow holds up and Kensing might help them out too, but Kensing has fallen out of favor for the Marlins.

 

So what does everyone think?

I don't know enough about Green...

 

But I don't want to trade Olsen....at all

 

I'd rather sub Petit in that deal.

no.

 

 

and.

 

 

 

what point does it solve for us?

 

 

nick green is more a utility guy anyway.

what point does it solve for us?

 

We haven't made a trade in so long omg!

Nope, unless Olsen's elbow really is f***** (in which case the DRays wouldn't do it, but whatever)

I would trade Olsen if there was a need or there was a compelling reason (read a chance to contend) but there isn't, especially in a trade that fetches another second baseman who so far hasn't proven he's going to be anything other than a utility player with limited if any power.

 

Acquiring Gathright would be terrific in my opinion but since we won't be contending (and for that matter neither will the perrenially cellar-dwelling D'Rays) in 2006 to what purpose?

 

There is no reason to overpay. Certainly not now. If Baldelli comes back healthy by the end of spring training and Huff breaks camp still a D'Ray, the TB argument about Gathright's importance goes right out the window and with him battling with Gomes and Hollins for playing time, someone will pick him up at a steep discount to today's perceived value.

Has anyone really looked at this team on paper and realize how bad this team will be if something isn't done to help the everyday line-up?

 

If Uggla and Ramirez aren't ready....this could get uglier than even the most optimistic Marlin fan can comprehend. Eric Reed in CF? Chris Aguila or Miguel Olivo getting 500 AB? Doesn't this scare anyone here?

It doesn't make sense to trade a great pitcher who will be awesome for years to come for a player who will make a horrible team have a slightly better season.

Has anyone really looked at this team on paper and realize how bad this team will be if something isn't done to help the everyday line-up?

 

If Uggla and Ramirez aren't ready....this could get uglier than even the most optimistic Marlin fan can comprehend. Eric Reed in CF? Chris Aguila or Miguel Olivo getting 500 AB? Doesn't this scare anyone here?

 

The lineup is our redeeming quality, lol.

 

The pitching is the issue.

Olsen is a potentially "good pitcher". "Great" is reserved for pitchers with more than 1 career win.

 

Gathright wouldn't be here for just one season either.

I would trade Olsen if there was a need or there was a compelling reason (read a chance to contend) but there isn't, especially in a trade that fetches another second baseman who so far hasn't proven he's going to be anything other than a utility player with limited if any power.

 

Acquiring Gathright would be terrific in my opinion but since we won't be contending (and for that matter neither will the perrenially cellar-dwelling D'Rays) in 2006 to what purpose?

 

There is no reason to overpay. Certainly not now. If Baldelli comes back healthy by the end of spring training and Huff breaks camp still a D'Ray, the TB argument about Gathright's importance goes right out the window and with him battling with Gomes and Hollins for playing time, someone will pick him up at a steep discount to today's perceived value.

 

 

What happens if a CF from a big market team goes down in Spring Training? Then the D-Rays say.....Scott Olsen and........ :banghead

Olsen is a potentially "good pitcher". "Great" is reserved for pitchers with more than 1 career win.

 

 

Huh? So no minor league pitching prospect is potentially "great"??

please.

 

 

i dont want to start saying that gathright is anything special when he isnt even a starter in tampa..

 

 

i mean we want to compare him to juan pierre.....juan pierre was already established in colorado and was a .300 hitter when we got him.

 

 

wake me when joey cracks the devil rays starting lineup on a permanent basis, last i checked they had baldelli, crawford and huff in their outfield. why give up one of our top pitching prospects for a 4th outfielder?

 

it makes zero sense.

As cool as it would be to have Gathright out in CF on Opening Day I would have to agree with most

and say that it wouldnt make much sense for us in the long run.

 

With that said.......we're in deep you know what if we have Aguila or Reed as our opening day CF.

Olsen is a potentially "good pitcher". "Great" is reserved for pitchers with more than 1 career win.

 

 

Huh? So no minor league pitching prospect is potentially "great"??

Minor-league pitchers could potentially be great..........the point I was making is.......Scott Olsen is not great right now. He could be great, good or awful.....we don't know.

 

"great" is reserved for pitchers that have proven it at the major league level.

 

Clemens, Glavine, Maddux, Pedro, Randy Johnson.........just a few examples of "great" pitchers.

Get out of here.

As cool as it would be to have Gathright out in CF on Opening Day I would have to agree with most

and say that it wouldnt make much sense for us in the long run.

 

With that said.......we're in deep you know what if we have Aguila or Reed as our opening day CF.

 

How about Reed AND Aguila in LF and CF......think about that awhile. If Willingham catches (which I hope he doesn't) it will be Reed and Aguila.

 

It's possible that Andino, Amezaga, Reed and Aguila are all in the starting line-up.....now that is scary.

Has anyone really looked at this team on paper and realize how bad this team will be if something isn't done to help the everyday line-up?

 

If Uggla and Ramirez aren't ready....this could get uglier than even the most optimistic Marlin fan can comprehend. Eric Reed in CF? Chris Aguila or Miguel Olivo getting 500 AB? Doesn't this scare anyone here?

 

...What happens if a CF from a big market team goes down in Spring Training? Then the D-Rays say.....Scott Olsen and........ :banghead

 

I just love being lectured by a D'Rays fan about comprehending what it feels like to have a losing season.

 

And what happens when Edwin Jackson and/or McClung or Fossum come up lame? We can play the "what-if" game all night but the fact is you expect Marlins fans to endorse a silly, juvenile trade of their number one or two rated prospect for the Rays fourth, fifth or sixth outfielder. And while you're happy to repeat yourself ad nauseum regarding the play of Miguel Olivo and Chris Aguila let's see how they perform in spring training before besmirching them on a daily basis.

 

Marlins fans understand that 2006 is an audition for the rest of the decade.

Has anyone really looked at this team on paper and realize how bad this team will be if something isn't done to help the everyday line-up?

 

If Uggla and Ramirez aren't ready....this could get uglier than even the most optimistic Marlin fan can comprehend. Eric Reed in CF? Chris Aguila or Miguel Olivo getting 500 AB? Doesn't this scare anyone here?

 

...What happens if a CF from a big market team goes down in Spring Training? Then the D-Rays say.....Scott Olsen and........ :banghead

 

I just love being lectured by a D'Rays fan about comprehending what it feels like to have a losing season.

 

And what happens when Edwin Jackson and/or McClung or Fossum come up lame? We can play the "what-if" game all night but the fact is you expect Marlins fans to endorse a silly, juvenile trade of their number one or two rated prospect for the Rays fourth, fifth or sixth outfielder. And while you're happy to repeat yourself ad nauseum regarding the play of Miguel Olivo and Chris Aguila let's see how they perform in spring training before besmirching them on a daily basis.

 

Marlins fans understand that 2006 is an audition for the rest of the decade.

I was a season-ticket holder in 2003 and 2004 when the Marlins deserved my money and I went to all 81 games both years and every playoff game. I was at Yankee Stadium for Game Six and watched the Marlins party on their field......so I don't want to hear your garbage about me being a Devil Rays fan.

 

I also never cried about the heat or the rain. I've been at day games during the week where maybe 200 people actually showed up...so who do you think you are to criticize me?

I was a season-ticket holder in 2003 and 2004 when the Marlins deserved my money and I went to all 81 games both years and every playoff game. I was at Yankee Stadium for Game Six and watched the Marlins party on their field......so I don't want to hear your garbage about me being a Devil Rays fan.

 

I also never cried about the heat or the rain. I've been at day games during the week where maybe 200 people actually showed up...so who do you think you are to criticize me?

 

Criticizing you is one of life's small pleasures.

If anyone has a right to be disappointed by the effort the Marlins have put forward to put the team they will have for the next few years before they move out of town.....it would be someone like me that has lined their pockets with cash.

chum you think the team's going to be terrible regardless. So in your mind what's the difference between 60 and 65 wins? This is NOT JUST ABOUT 2006.

You're right......it's about how well they play in their new city. They have been talking to Florida cities to keep the media off their back....that's all.

Only way I trade Olsen is if we get Jeremy Reed from Seattle in a miracle trade.

wow, 23 posts in this thread?? Spring Training can't start soon enough.