February 27, 200620 yr You guys leaving out Pokey Reese are sorely mistaken. He will be starting at either SS or 2B this season. And if you don't think we're going to give Uggla and Ramirez every chance to earn the jobs you, sir, are sorely mistaken. ...that'd be something new
February 27, 200620 yr You guys leaving out Pokey Reese are sorely mistaken. He will be starting at either SS or 2B this season. And if you don't think we're going to give Uggla and Ramirez every chance to earn the jobs you, sir, are sorely mistaken. Dear sir, Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez will, indeed, have every opportunity to take the spot from Reese. We are well aware. However, please understand that at this time we feel Pokey Reese has a 'bit' of an advantage of Rule V Uggla. Sincerely, Lefty *Yes, I referred myself as a plural entity.
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation
February 27, 200620 yr You guys leaving out Pokey Reese are sorely mistaken. He will be starting at either SS or 2B this season. And if you don't think we're going to give Uggla and Ramirez every chance to earn the jobs you, sir, are sorely mistaken. Dear sir, Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez will, indeed, have every opportunity to take the spot from Reese. We are well aware. However, please understand that at this time we feel Pokey Reese has a 'bit' of an advantage of Rule V Uggla. Sincerely, Lefty *Yes, I referred myself as a plural entity. would that avantage include the fact he didnt play in 2005 or the fact that he hasnt hit .220 since 2002?
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation A player claimed through Rule V draft hardly seems to be the best case scenario in this situation. When in doubt, go with the vet...And I mean, Uggla will have to have an amazing Spring to steal is from Pokey. It could happen, but I don't think it will. Hanley I agree with. I like him. So now I guess everytime I second guess a member of the imfamous Shadez nation, I have to make sure I don't do it publicly or I'll get the hammer thrown down. Yeesh.
February 27, 200620 yr Calm down brah, it's just a friendly baseball debate. Isn't that what this board is for?
February 27, 200620 yr Calm down brah, it's just a friendly baseball debate. Isn't that what this board is for? Yep
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation A player claimed through Rule V draft hardly seems to be the best case scenario in this situation. When in doubt, go with the vet...And I mean, Uggla will have to have an amazing Spring to steal is from Pokey. It could happen, but I don't think it will. Hanley I agree with. I like him. So now I guess everytime I second guess a member of the imfamous Shadez nation, I have to make sure I don't do it publicly or I'll get the hammer thrown down. Yeesh. The vet who is no longer in his prime and I am willing to assume has lost a step?
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation A player claimed through Rule V draft hardly seems to be the best case scenario in this situation. When in doubt, go with the vet...And I mean, Uggla will have to have an amazing Spring to steal is from Pokey. It could happen, but I don't think it will. Hanley I agree with. I like him. So now I guess everytime I second guess a member of the imfamous Shadez nation, I have to make sure I don't do it publicly or I'll get the hammer thrown down. Yeesh. The vet who is no longer in his prime and I am willing to assume has lost a step? People are high on Uggla because of what they've read in the papers and what not. I know you may have seen him in person so it's different... But people give in to the hype too much. I've seen Reese play and for me, he's more deserving than a Rule V pick (ya he was a Rule V for a reason) until the Rule V pick proves me wrong.
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation A player claimed through Rule V draft hardly seems to be the best case scenario in this situation. When in doubt, go with the vet...And I mean, Uggla will have to have an amazing Spring to steal is from Pokey. It could happen, but I don't think it will. Hanley I agree with. I like him. So now I guess everytime I second guess a member of the imfamous Shadez nation, I have to make sure I don't do it publicly or I'll get the hammer thrown down. Yeesh. The vet who is no longer in his prime and I am willing to assume has lost a step? People are high on Uggla because of what they've read in the papers and what not. I know you may have seen him in person so it's different... But people give in to the hype too much. I've seen Reese play and for me, he's more deserving than a Rule V pick (ya he was a Rule V for a reason) until the Rule V pick proves me wrong. when was the last time you saw Pokey play?
February 27, 200620 yr To: Lefty From: Hugg Subject: Re: Pokey Dear Sir, We here at Shadez Nation believe that Dan Uggla and Hanley Ramirez can probably hit the .230 that Pokey Reese would put up. Thank you for your time, Shadez Nation A player claimed through Rule V draft hardly seems to be the best case scenario in this situation. When in doubt, go with the vet...And I mean, Uggla will have to have an amazing Spring to steal is from Pokey. It could happen, but I don't think it will. Hanley I agree with. I like him. So now I guess everytime I second guess a member of the imfamous Shadez nation, I have to make sure I don't do it publicly or I'll get the hammer thrown down. Yeesh. The vet who is no longer in his prime and I am willing to assume has lost a step? People are high on Uggla because of what they've read in the papers and what not. I know you may have seen him in person so it's different... But people give in to the hype too much. I've seen Reese play and for me, he's more deserving than a Rule V pick (ya he was a Rule V for a reason) until the Rule V pick proves me wrong. when was the last time you saw Pokey play? Can't recall an exact date. But I've seen him play, he's sustained a major league career, and at this point he has less to prove in my mind than Uggla. I like Uggla, he's my Baby Marlin even...But I just don't see him starting (full time at least), unless he has a monster Spring.
February 28, 200620 yr Why not go with a crazy line-up to get our four best players the most AB? 1. Willingham LF 2. Hermida RF 3. Cabrera 3B 4. Jacobs 1B 5. Ramirez SS 6. Olivo C 7. Reed/Aguila CF 8. Reese 2B Why mess around and let guys that might have a problem getting on base bat near the top of the order and get alot of AB? Just a thought. I also agree with the Reese over Uggla. Reese will be a very good defender, plus who knows what Uggla can really do. Uggla took 3 1/2 years to get out of single-A, and even the most optimistic fan has to wonder how he'll adjust jumping from AA to the majors.
February 28, 200620 yr Why not go with a crazy line-up to get our four best players the most AB? 1. Willingham LF 2. Hermida RF 3. Cabrera 3B 4. Jacobs 1B 5. Ramirez SS 6. Olivo C 7. Reed/Aguila CF 8. Reese 2B Why mess around and let guys that might have a problem getting on base bat near the top of the order and get alot of AB? Just a thought. I also agree with the Reese over Uggla. Reese will be a very good defender, plus who knows what Uggla can really do. Uggla took 3 1/2 years to get out of single-A, and even the most optimistic fan has to wonder how he'll adjust jumping from AA to the majors. In that case let's just put Hermida first since he's got much better speed.
February 28, 200620 yr I have no problem with that. I just think the best 4 should bat 1-4....so they get the most AB.
February 28, 200620 yr Fair enough. Hermida Willingham Miggy Jacobs Looks good to me. :thumbup Just as an aside, an article in flamarlins.com says that Aguila is really impressing, so he may end up being our centerfielder.
February 28, 200620 yr Why not go with a crazy line-up to get our four best players the most AB? 1. Willingham LF 2. Hermida RF 3. Cabrera 3B 4. Jacobs 1B 5. Ramirez SS 6. Olivo C 7. Reed/Aguila CF 8. Reese 2B Why mess around and let guys that might have a problem getting on base bat near the top of the order and get alot of AB? Just a thought. I also agree with the Reese over Uggla. Reese will be a very good defender, plus who knows what Uggla can really do. Uggla took 3 1/2 years to get out of single-A, and even the most optimistic fan has to wonder how he'll adjust jumping from AA to the majors. I threw that out there before, I think it works really well if Aguila wins the CF job and not Reed so there is no tempting speed to put at the top of the lineup.
February 28, 200620 yr Aguila CF Willy LF Cabrera 3B Hermida RF Jacobs 1B Ramirez SS Olivo C Reese 2B P I like Cabs batting 3rd instead of 4th, I think your best hitter should bat 3rd. Uggla I don't see starting, I think Aquila is a better fielder than Reed and is a much better hitter when he has more AB's. Reed seems to be a 1-tool player. Willy and Ramirez are interchangeable in the order, I'm sold on Willy's bat but nothing I read about Hanely really pumps me up.
March 6, 200620 yr I expect to see (without a trade / waiver pickup) CF Reed RF Hermedia 3B Cabrera 1B Jacobs C Willingham SS Ramierez 2B Uggla LF Aguila
March 6, 200620 yr I think Aquila is a better fielder than Reed and is a much better hitter when he has more AB's. Reed seems to be a 1-tool player. I am guessing you mean Reed's one tool is speed? But, Reed is rated as the best defensive OF in our system, and had the best rated OF arm until Harvey got noticed.
March 6, 200620 yr Barring a trade for a CFer. RF Hermida C Willy 3B Cabrera 1B Jacobs LF Aguila 2B Uggla SS Ramirez CF Reed I figure with the plate eyes of Hermida and Willingham (expect OBP of 350+) ahead of Cabrera will maximize his protection. I don't think Jacobs will be a high OB player over the course of a full season, but provides the most power after Cabrera, which is why I have him after Cabs. The bottom 4 will be pitiful offensively, with maybe Aguila cracking 700OPS. I don't believe Girardi will use this format however. Probably something much more standard like... CF/SS Reed/Ramirez RF Hermida 1B Jacobs 3B Cabrera LF Willingham C Olivo 2B Uggla SS/CF Ramirez/Reed
March 6, 200620 yr You guys leaving out Pokey Reese are sorely mistaken. He will be starting at either SS or 2B this season. Nice call there, Lefty. :plain
March 6, 200620 yr You guys leaving out Pokey Reese are sorely mistaken. He will be starting at either SS or 2B this season. Nice call there, Lefty. :plain the kid is an oracle. what can you say?
March 6, 200620 yr I think Aquila is a better fielder than Reed and is a much better hitter when he has more AB's. Reed seems to be a 1-tool player. I am guessing you mean Reed's one tool is speed? But, Reed is rated as the best defensive OF in our system, and had the best rated OF arm until Harvey got noticed. Your right in that he is and has been the best OF in the organization. But wrong about the arm. Reed just has a average arm. Reed is Juan Pierre with better raw tools and similar styles but without the skills.
March 6, 200620 yr Your right, I got ahead of myself. I apologize, but to say he's only got one tool is kind of dismissing him without reason.
March 6, 200620 yr I see a lot of you guys stacking "the four" 1-2-3-4 in the lineup.... I think that's a bad idea. Not because we don't want to get them as many AB as possible, but because whoever you have first - Hermida or Willingham - is going to be one of your most productive hitters power wise, and having sub .250 OBP pitcher (if that) in the # 9 spot isn't going to be beneficial compared to the power you'd be adding to the # 1 spot. This works in the American league (Sizemore, Delucci), but I don't think it's a good NL philosophy. I think you need to stack them as high as possible, as in starting them at the 2nd slot, but one rule needs to apply: put your best OBP threat in the rest of the lineup batting 1st, regardless of the speed (looking at you Eric Reed). Assuming Willingham is a catcher.... 1 Aguila LF 2 Hermida RF 3 Cabrera 3B 4 Willingham C 5 Jacobs 1B 6 Hanley SS 7 Uggla 2B 8 Reed CF I'm not advocating Aguila is a good leadoff hitter, but he is going to out OBP Hanley, Uggla, and Reed, giving Hermida the best chance possible of having a guy on base. Best hitter is 3rd, moving along. Willingham could be perfect batting behind those two because he will clearly take pitches, and wait for one to annhilate. And if not, he'll be happy to walk for Jacobs. I think Jacobs is the lowest OBP of the four of them, so I think he should bat last. It takes away the L/R dynamic with those guys, but oh well. Hanley goes 6 because we have no good power threat left. The most runners will be on base at this spot, versus 7th or 8th slot, and you atleast put pressure on the defense by having your best contact hitter/great speed left in this lineup spot, and not have the K machines of Uggla and Reed stranding guys at the plate. I think contact/speed outweighs marginal slugging in this situation. Not to concerned with the clunkers in Willingham and Jacobs routinely running into DP's with Hanley. I think Hanley's speed would negate a few of them, making it not an exagerrant risk. Uggla 7th, because I want Reed at 8. This brings up a little strategy. When he gets on, pitchers up next. In a perfect world, he steals 2B and gets bunted to 3B. But more then likely, just have the pitcher always bunt him over (one of the only situations I ever advocate straight out sacrifice bunts), or if they are swinging, he'd be the hardest person on the team to double up. Anyways, I think this is the way to go - adding no one. Hopefully Gathright, or some other leadoff presence at 2B or CF, comes in and bumps Reed or Uggla out of the starting lineup, so we can move Aguila to 6th, and Hanley 7.
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