NEW YORK (SI.com) -- Beginning in 1998 with injections in his buttocks of Winstrol, a powerful steroid, Barry Bonds took a wide array of performance-enhancing drugs over at least five seasons in a massive doping regimen that grew more sophisticated as the years went on, according to Game of Shadows, a book written by two San Francisco Chronicle reporters at the forefront of reporting on the BALCO steroid distribution scandal.

 

(An excerpt of Game of Shadows that details Bonds' steroid use appears exclusively in the March 13 issue of Sports Illustrated, which is available on newsstands beginning on Wednesday. The book's publication date is March 27.)

 

 

Continued... http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/base...erpt/index.html

Was just about to post the same article...here's a few more excerpts

In addition to detailing the drug usage, the excerpt portrays Bonds as a menacing boor, a tax cheat and an adulterer given to (probably because of the rampant steroid use) sexual dysfunction, hair loss and wild mood swings that included periods of rage.

According to the excerpt, Bonds put his hand around her throat, pressed her against a wall and whispered, "If you ever f-----' pull some s--- like that again I'll kill you, do you understand me?"

 

Dude is crazy...I don't really know what to think of all this. It's probably true, but damn this is going to be a media shitstorm.

Yawn.

 

How many positive tests?

 

I'm really sick of this whole thing. You don't have to like the guy, but you sure can't take away anything he's done.

You can take away what he has done if it was done illegally and proven to be done illegally.

 

I was only posting the article not necessarily agreeing with it. Good read nonetheless.

You can take away what he has done if it was done illegally and proven to be done illegally.

 

 

Can you?

 

Did Giambi have his MVP award taken away? Or Canseco? Or Caminetti? All those guys have admitted to steroid use.

 

For all the sh*t storm that is around Barry for the past 5 years, nothing's stuck. He was even tested on more than one occasion and if some scum-bag journalists can get ahold of confidential grand jury testimony, I guarantee they got a hold of his test results...it's just that clean test results don't sell papers or help them sell sensationalist literature, like this, in the future.

You can take away what he has done if it was done illegally and proven to be done illegally.

 

 

Can you?

 

Did Giambi have his MVP award taken away? Or Canseco? Or Caminetti? All those guys have admitted to steroid use.

 

For all the sh*t storm that is around Barry for the past 5 years, nothing's stuck. He was even tested on more than one occasion and if some scum-bag journalists can get ahold of confidential grand jury testimony, I guarantee they got a hold of his test results...it's just that clean test results don't sell papers or help them sell sensationalist literature, like this, in the future. Sorry perhaps you took that too literally and I misworded. I do not mean physically take away his awards etc.. But you better believe people will quickly forget about his accolades. Like myself. I think he is a great player if it was all done legit IMHO.

You can take away what he has done if it was done illegally and proven to be done illegally.

 

 

Can you?

 

Did Giambi have his MVP award taken away? Or Canseco? Or Caminetti? All those guys have admitted to steroid use.

 

For all the sh*t storm that is around Barry for the past 5 years, nothing's stuck. He was even tested on more than one occasion and if some scum-bag journalists can get ahold of confidential grand jury testimony, I guarantee they got a hold of his test results...it's just that clean test results don't sell papers or help them sell sensationalist literature, like this, in the future.

Angry much?

 

Since steroid testing was implemented this year, there is no way he could have done steroids from 98 untill this season?

can anyone really believe he never touched the stuff at this point?

 

I am not saying crucify him there(or innocent till proven guilty etc), but is there anyone in america that really believes that bonds never touched steriods at all.

 

I am just asking for what folks really in their heart believe.

You can take away what he has done if it was done illegally and proven to be done illegally.

 

 

Can you?

 

Did Giambi have his MVP award taken away? Or Canseco? Or Caminetti? All those guys have admitted to steroid use.

 

For all the sh*t storm that is around Barry for the past 5 years, nothing's stuck. He was even tested on more than one occasion and if some scum-bag journalists can get ahold of confidential grand jury testimony, I guarantee they got a hold of his test results...it's just that clean test results don't sell papers or help them sell sensationalist literature, like this, in the future.

Angry much?

 

Since steroid testing was implemented this year, there is no way he could have done steroids from 98 untill this season?

 

Oh sure he could have, but anonymous testing was put into effect after the SI bombshell with Caminetti, and Bonds was tested under that program because there was quite a controvery around that...even though a positive test would not have carried any form of punishment.

 

Plus, the whole '98 thing makes little sense. He's coming off back to back 40 homerun seasons, and almost consecutive 40/40 seasons.

 

Also, since Winsotrol is the drug of choice, and it's being injected, it would have to be Nandrolone source.

 

Nandrolone is a pretty famous anabolic steroid as it is the drug of choice (or perhaps you should say the drug of undoing) for many competitive sprinters source. But here's the thing, since Barry "got on" nandrolone in '98, according to this report, his stolen base totals have fallen off the cliff...from from 28 to 15 in '98 to '99. So, if Barry did inject nandrolone, he either got an ineffective batch, or the writer obviously made a mistake in which steroid it was...and if you have such glaring factual inaccuracies in a report of this magnitude, how can you take it seriously when making such a glaring mistake?

 

can anyone really believe he never touched the stuff at this point?

 

I am not saying crucify him there(or innocent till proven guilty etc), but is there anyone in america that really believes that bonds never touched steriods at all.

 

I am just asking for what folks really in their heart believe.

 

 

Well, the facts are the facts, he did use "the clear" from BALCO, but he wasn't aware of it being steroids, and he got off of it shortly after...according to the grand jury testimony. So obviously he did touch the stuff.

 

I do, however, believe that he has never used any form of anabolic steroid knowingly.

I will buy and read

Yawn.

 

How many positive tests?

 

I'm really sick of this whole thing. You don't have to like the guy, but you sure can't take away anything he's done.

 

 

 

 

Yawn.

 

 

How many positive tests did Mike Lowell have?

 

 

 

Yet you managed to imply his downslide is due to being off steroids numerous times.

I read the article up on ESPN (or skimmed it, anyway), and the stuff about his steroid use is so so incredibly detailed that it's pretty hard not to believe any of it.

 

I think Bonds knowingly used steroids, but that doesn't mean he's not a great player.

by the way, here's the point to end all points regarding this situation....If Bonds took Steroids before this all....it wasn't illegal then and he can't be held accountable for it. I just think it's a lot of reporters who hold a personal grudge against the guy.

The authors compiled the information over a two-year investigation that included, but was not limited to, court documents, affidavits filed by BALCO investigators, confidential memoranda of federal agents (including statements made to them by athletes and trainers), grand jury testimony, audiotapes and interviews with more than 200 sources. Some of the information previously was reported by the authors in the Chronicle. Some of the information is new. For instance, in an extensive note on sourcing, the authors said memos detailing statements by BALCO owner Victor Conte, vice president James Valente and Anderson to IRS special agent Jeff Novitzky were sealed when they first consulted them, but have been unsealed since.

 

If you don't believe Barry used steroids, then I'm sorry but you're just not very smart.

Yawn.

 

How many positive tests?

 

I'm really sick of this whole thing. You don't have to like the guy, but you sure can't take away anything he's done.

 

 

 

 

Yawn.

 

 

How many positive tests did Mike Lowell have?

 

 

 

Yet you managed to imply his downslide is due to being off steroids numerous times.

 

Wait...whose career fell off a cliff with the advent of drug testing?

 

Oh yeah...that's right, Mike Lowell's. Bonds' September last season was about as productive as Lowell's entire season.

Lowell also doesn't have nearly the amount of reports of his steroid use, let alone anything this detailed, so I find it kind of odd that to presume Lowell's guilty while Bonds is innocent when there is so much more evidence (albeit circumstantial) about Bonds than Lowell.

 

Just saying.

 

Personally I think Bonds did steroids and am unsure about Lowell, though if I had to put money on it I'd say yes. Doesn't mean I don't/didn't enjoy watching them play, though, so long as it's not 2005 Mike Lowell.

Lowell also doesn't have nearly the amount of reports of his steroid use, let alone anything this detailed, so I find it kind of odd that to presume Lowell's guilty while Bonds is innocent when there is so much more evidence (albeit circumstantial) about Bonds than Lowell.

 

Just saying.

 

Personally I think Bonds did steroids and am unsure about Lowell, though if I had to put money on it I'd say yes. Doesn't mean I don't/didn't enjoy watching them play, though, so long as it's not 2005 Mike Lowell.

 

 

Just to be fair, I don't think that there's overwhelming evidence of the use of anabolic steroids with Bonds. Growth hormone I can see the argument for because of the difficulty of detection and sudden growth of Bonds after the typical date of growth stoppage. So don't let it be said that I don't see both sides of the coin.

 

As for Lowell, if he were either out of favor with the local media, playing in a market that actually cared about baseball or winning offensive awards there'd be smoke around him too, but that really isn't critical to the discussion around Barry Bonds.

This ?steroid problem? was addressed by the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. The law applies in every federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class ? Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.

 

Are steroids also illegal under state laws? During 1989 and 1990, many states reclassified anabolic steroids to become controlled substances under state law. A 1991 survey of anabolic steroid state legislation found that approximately twenty-two states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas) had tightened control over steroids in the preceding two years. State laws differ as to the classification level for anabolic steroids, providing for a wide range of penalties. The states also differ in their approach to controlling anabolics. Some, such as Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas and Michigan, require the posting of notices designed for public education as to the dangers of illegal use. Further, Delaware, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas have promulgated rules as to the prescription of anabolic steroids, warning practitioners against dispensation for non-medical use. In New York State, the Public Health Law classifies anabolic steroids as controlled substances. Possession of even a small quantity of a controlled substance can be prosecuted as a class ?A? misdemeanor criminal offense under the Penal Law, punishable by up to one year in jail (although few first-time offenders are sentenced to jail time). Sale of anabolic steroids is a class ?D? felony in New York, regardless of the quantity sold. In New York, ?sell? is defined to include simply giving away as well as the act of offering or agreeing to sell. Sale of steroids is punishable by up to seven years in prison. Even gainfully employed, first-time offenders in many parts of New York State can serve some jail time, be placed on five years of supervision by the local probation department, and suffer the lifelong stigma of a felony drug sale conviction.

 

http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php

 

So Barry Bonds violated the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990......

End of story............

This ?steroid problem? was addressed by the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. The law applies in every federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class ? Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.

 

Are steroids also illegal under state laws? During 1989 and 1990, many states reclassified anabolic steroids to become controlled substances under state law. A 1991 survey of anabolic steroid state legislation found that approximately twenty-two states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas) had tightened control over steroids in the preceding two years. State laws differ as to the classification level for anabolic steroids, providing for a wide range of penalties. The states also differ in their approach to controlling anabolics. Some, such as Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas and Michigan, require the posting of notices designed for public education as to the dangers of illegal use. Further, Delaware, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas have promulgated rules as to the prescription of anabolic steroids, warning practitioners against dispensation for non-medical use. In New York State, the Public Health Law classifies anabolic steroids as controlled substances. Possession of even a small quantity of a controlled substance can be prosecuted as a class ?A? misdemeanor criminal offense under the Penal Law, punishable by up to one year in jail (although few first-time offenders are sentenced to jail time). Sale of anabolic steroids is a class ?D? felony in New York, regardless of the quantity sold. In New York, ?sell? is defined to include simply giving away as well as the act of offering or agreeing to sell. Sale of steroids is punishable by up to seven years in prison. Even gainfully employed, first-time offenders in many parts of New York State can serve some jail time, be placed on five years of supervision by the local probation department, and suffer the lifelong stigma of a felony drug sale conviction.

 

http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php

 

So Barry Bonds violated the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990......

End of story............

that's innacurate...the laws towards use and possession were only in the anabolic steroids control act of 2004...the anabolic steroids control act only banned trafficing and distribution

At the time it wasn't against the rules, and many if not the majority of players juiced therefore it wasn't cheating...there is also no proof whatsoever that steroids help (just ask Alex Sanchez)

And while i'll concede it is likely he used steroids, it's still innocent until proven guilty, and this is more circumstantial evidence. There's also something suspicious about this that it wasn't reported in the chronicle, which likely means the editors didn't feel it had enough credibility to print in there...

It's just a couple clowns looking to drag it out and make more money...and do you find it all suspicious that this is released after the media gave Bonds some positive publicity for the first time? And seriously, who cares? Is anyone's opinion changed by this? The haters will still hate, those of us who support him will still continue to support him, and those who don't like him but still respect him as a player will continue not to like him but respect him as a player.

He's been the best in the game for 16 years...because he may have done it for as many as six years tarnishes his accomplishments? Give me a break.

This is a pointless debate. None of us will ever see anyone this good in our lifetime. If you can't just sit back and appreciate what he's done, it's your loss. It's a shame that, like Ted Williams, his feud with the media will prevent him from getting the respect he deserves until a while after his retirement

Are there really people who don't believe Bonds had been using serious amounts of multiple steroids/growth hormones? Are you kidding me?

 

Bonds had himself set for a Hall of Fame career with his Pittsburgh/early San Fran days.

 

But his late 90's explosion was obviously fueled by steroids. He went from being a top player in the game who was set to be considered one of the best OF's of the last 50 years to a few seasons that are statistically ranked among the greatest of all time. And these last ridiculously productive seasons would have never happened without steroids.

 

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

Are there really people who don't believe Bonds had been using serious amounts of multiple steroids/growth hormones? Are you kidding me?

 

Bonds had himself set for a Hall of Fame career with his Pittsburgh/early San Fran days.

 

But his late 90's explosion was obviously fueled by steroids. He went from being a top player in the game who was set to be considered one of the best OF's of the last 50 years to a few seasons that are statistically ranked among the greatest of all time. And these last ridiculously productive seasons would have never happened without steroids.

 

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

 

these people alledge that he used steroids from 98-2003...the two best seasons of his career were 1996 and 2004

How do you explain that?

This "steroid problem" was addressed by the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. The law applies in every federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class ? Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.

 

Are steroids also illegal under state laws? During 1989 and 1990, many states reclassified anabolic steroids to become controlled substances under state law. A 1991 survey of anabolic steroid state legislation found that approximately twenty-two states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas) had tightened control over steroids in the preceding two years. State laws differ as to the classification level for anabolic steroids, providing for a wide range of penalties. The states also differ in their approach to controlling anabolics. Some, such as Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas and Michigan, require the posting of notices designed for public education as to the dangers of illegal use. Further, Delaware, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas have promulgated rules as to the prescription of anabolic steroids, warning practitioners against dispensation for non-medical use. In New York State, the Public Health Law classifies anabolic steroids as controlled substances. Possession of even a small quantity of a controlled substance can be prosecuted as a class "A" misdemeanor criminal offense under the Penal Law, punishable by up to one year in jail (although few first-time offenders are sentenced to jail time). Sale of anabolic steroids is a class "D" felony in New York, regardless of the quantity sold. In New York, "sell" is defined to include simply giving away as well as the act of offering or agreeing to sell. Sale of steroids is punishable by up to seven years in prison. Even gainfully employed, first-time offenders in many parts of New York State can serve some jail time, be placed on five years of supervision by the local probation department, and suffer the lifelong stigma of a felony drug sale conviction.

 

http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php

 

So Barry Bonds violated the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990......

End of story............

 

Yeah, if he took steriods he broke the law. So what? That doesn't mean his baseball records should be wiped out or anything like that, because even if he did take steroids prior to the new drug testing agreement (which is likely), he still didn't break any baseball rules.

 

You don't wipe out baseball records for doing something against the law, unless we're going to start wiping out the records of everyone who possibly committed a criminal offense, which would be ridiculous.

This "steroid problem" was addressed by the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990. The law applies in every federal court across the country. It places steroids in the same legal class ? Schedule III -- as amphetamines, methamphetamines, opium and morphine. Simple possession of any Schedule III substance is a federal offense punishable by up to one year in prison and/or a minimum fine of $1,000. Simple possession by a person with a previous conviction for certain offenses, including any drug or narcotic crimes, must get imprisonment of at least 15 days and up to two years, and a minimum fine of $2,500. Individuals with two or more such previous convictions face imprisonment of not less than 90 days but not more than three years, and a minimum fine of $5,000, just for simply possessing. Selling steroids, or possessing them with intent to sell, is a federal felony. An individual who sells steroids, or possesses with intent to sell, is punishable by up to five years in prison (with at least two additional years of supervised release) and/or a $250,000 fine. An individual who commits such a violation after a prior conviction for a drug offense faces up to ten years imprisonment (with at least four additional years of special parole) and/or increased fines.

 

Are steroids also illegal under state laws? During 1989 and 1990, many states reclassified anabolic steroids to become controlled substances under state law. A 1991 survey of anabolic steroid state legislation found that approximately twenty-two states (Arizona, California, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, New Mexico, New York, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Tennessee, and Texas) had tightened control over steroids in the preceding two years. State laws differ as to the classification level for anabolic steroids, providing for a wide range of penalties. The states also differ in their approach to controlling anabolics. Some, such as Arizona, California, New Mexico, Texas and Michigan, require the posting of notices designed for public education as to the dangers of illegal use. Further, Delaware, Louisiana, Michigan, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and Texas have promulgated rules as to the prescription of anabolic steroids, warning practitioners against dispensation for non-medical use. In New York State, the Public Health Law classifies anabolic steroids as controlled substances. Possession of even a small quantity of a controlled substance can be prosecuted as a class "A" misdemeanor criminal offense under the Penal Law, punishable by up to one year in jail (although few first-time offenders are sentenced to jail time). Sale of anabolic steroids is a class "D" felony in New York, regardless of the quantity sold. In New York, "sell" is defined to include simply giving away as well as the act of offering or agreeing to sell. Sale of steroids is punishable by up to seven years in prison. Even gainfully employed, first-time offenders in many parts of New York State can serve some jail time, be placed on five years of supervision by the local probation department, and suffer the lifelong stigma of a felony drug sale conviction.

 

http://www.steroid.com/steroidandlaws.php

 

So Barry Bonds violated the Anabolic Steroids Control Act of 1990......

End of story............

 

Yeah, if he took steriods he broke the law. So what? That doesn't mean his baseball records should be wiped out or anything like that, because even if he did take steroids prior to the new drug testing agreement (which is likely), he still didn't break any baseball rules.

 

You don't wipe out baseball records for doing something against the law, unless we're going to start wiping out the records of everyone who possibly committed a criminal offense, which would be ridiculous.

 

While that is true, it's irrelevant. There were two anabolic steroids control acts. The one in 1990 banned trafficing and distribution, but possession wasn't banned until 2004

exactly baseball didnt make steroids illegal till now so therefore the past is the past and if your not gonna kill McGwire the same way you kill Bonds then don't make fun of anyone cause McGwire denied usage in front of the jury and Palmeiro out and out lied....Kill those guys just as much.

exactly baseball didnt make steroids illegal till now so therefore the past is the past and if your not gonna kill McGwire the same way you kill Bonds then don't make fun of anyone cause McGwire denied usage in front of the jury and Palmeiro out and out lied....Kill those guys just as much.

 

 

I think they did get killed just as much really...except in a different way. Everyone see's both of them as jokes now and I think that is kind of how Bonds will end up. Palmeiro now won't get into the hall fame and McGwire will always be remembered what he said at a Congress hearing rather than the home run chase.

 

As for the book. While it probably is true, it's probably grossly overexaggerated in order to make the all important buck.