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I remember alot of conversation about Hialeah Hights and barren land.. but have we talked about Hialeah Park? The place is miles around, completely empty, and would with a statium would without question revive that city..

 

I'd love to talk about it, give my ideas and speculate, but first i'm just asking if we already have...

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Personally, I would like the Hialeah Park (race track site). We have discussed it on these threads (not in length). Many are saying that it would be impossible to get to. I mentioned about the mass transit being available for Dade,Broward, and Palm Beach counties with metro rail and tri-rail. Their is a stigma to some of the replies I received that they would not ride the transit. Some people took it as a downgrade in their socio-econmoic status which I do not understand why they would think that since many well paid professionals do ride the mass transit. This site to me would be convenient but to others it would not. People are so in love with their cars that they insist on driving to the games. Realistically, I don't see people driving to all these games. Lets plan for the future traffic is only getting worse and an alternative would be nice to get to the games instead of being held hostage behind the wheel. The Hialeah Park is linked to downtown Miami via metro rail. When people get off work they can simply get on the metro and they would be at the game. It makes perfect sense. In Palm Beach and Broward the only driving they need to do is to their nearest Tri-rail stations. This could be a beautiful ball park. The latest on Hialeah Park is that the owner (Brunetti) does not want to give up any of his land however the same was first said about the owner of the Hialeah heights location and since then there have been serious talks.

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well.. the park is miles of land.. more than DS, it would bring the city back to life.. that area has gone downhill... transit.. the trirail(i think its tri) actually run RIGHT OVER the park... and ramps can be built.. the palmetto is right there...

 

 

I agree, this site would do so much more for the city than the Hialeah Heights site would. But transit would be a big problem at this site. The MetroRail won't be enough.

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well the highway is 6 lanes wide so if they built the ramps... it could be a smooth ride for those from broward... we were in miami on saturday so we drove around it... once on the highway, its smooooooth sailing.. all theyd need are the ramps...

 

And who do i contact about pushing this issue.. i don't want this to be a MB.com board convo.. i want it to be a convo between the people who can actually get it done... and as we all know.. now it cant wait a few months.. you never know how long the team has before loria does something drastic

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The Palmetto Expressway is and has been a driver's worst nightmare of a road for the last 20 years. And the Palmetto Expresway is not right there. That would have to be one heck of a ramp to get to Hialeah Park. It's about 2-3 miles away....with no reasonable roads getting there. For years I used to drive to the track from Broward. It was a nightmare drive on a big race day when 20000+ showed up. I suppose roads could be built, and if it had to be, I'd rather drive there than San Antonio.

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It'll never happen. I know personally because my girlfriends uncle lives in a house for free right next to the race track for taking care of it. The guy (the owner of the race track) grew up watching races there, he won't sell, the place is sacred for whoever lived in the 50's. Even the city has attempted to buy it, and the guy hasn't budged. He use to own much more of the land, but Hialeah literally taxed the guy to death and he had to sell some of the parking (about 5 acres) to get out of debt, which as a matter of fact was sold to the city where they built a post office, and street (located right in the front). The only reason the racetrack isn't going right now is cause the owner was stripped of his license for some years now, but I believe if I heard right he'll be getting his license back in 2 years and he intends on re-opening the place up. The guy has his mind set-up, it won't happen!

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It'll never happen. I know personally because my girlfriends uncle lives in a house for free right next to the race track for taking care of it. The guy (the owner of the race track) grew up watching races there, he won't sell, the place is sacred for whoever lived in the 50's. Even the city has attempted to buy it, and the guy hasn't budged. He use to own much more of the land, but Hialeah literally taxed the guy to death and he had to sell some of the parking (about 5 acres) to get out of debt, which as a matter of fact was sold to the city where they built a post office, and street (located right in the front). The only reason the racetrack isn't going right now is cause the owner was stripped of his license for some years now, but I believe if I heard right he'll be getting his license back in 2 years and he intends on re-opening the place up. The guy has his mind set-up, it won't happen!

 

I am glad the track may re-open. I loved going there as a kid....most beautiful racetrack period.

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It'll never happen. I know personally because my girlfriends uncle lives in a house for free right next to the race track for taking care of it. The guy (the owner of the race track) grew up watching races there, he won't sell, the place is sacred for whoever lived in the 50's. Even the city has attempted to buy it, and the guy hasn't budged. He use to own much more of the land, but Hialeah literally taxed the guy to death and he had to sell some of the parking (about 5 acres) to get out of debt, which as a matter of fact was sold to the city where they built a post office, and street (located right in the front). The only reason the racetrack isn't going right now is cause the owner was stripped of his license for some years now, but I believe if I heard right he'll be getting his license back in 2 years and he intends on re-opening the place up. The guy has his mind set-up, it won't happen!

 

I hope that the owner(John Brunetti) is successful. Hialeah Race Track was and still is a beautiful historic place, frequented by Al Capone in it's heyday and going strong until 1975. Heck, I got Pete Roses' signature on a racing program at Hialeah back in 1988. There's other places that are better located for a ballpark, specifically the Hialeah Heights section. Hopefully both will happen. I have memories of going to Hialeah with my Dad back in the 70's that are as strong as the memories of me and my Dad at Shea Stadium back in the 60's. In the end though, as a fan of baseball AND horse racing, I'd raze Hialeah Race Track to the ground to have a new baseball stadium if that was my personal choice.

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I went by the track a few weeks ago and the condition inwhich the stables and other structures are in is horrible. Bringing that place back up would help that area so much.

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I went by the track a few weeks ago and the condition inwhich the stables and other structures are in is horrible. Bringing that place back up would help that area so much.

 

I'm sure. The stables haven't been used in a couple of years. The main structure is in need or repairs. But the horse racing surface itself remains amongst the world's best, and you're probably looking at a minimum of 50M to bring the whole place back to horse racing glory. And this wouldn't benefit the area greatly. A baseball stadium would transform that area. For those that haven't been there, the area is low to middle class and industrial/commercial and poor. But it's located well in relation to downtown Miami.

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It'll never happen. I know personally because my girlfriends uncle lives in a house for free right next to the race track for taking care of it. The guy (the owner of the race track) grew up watching races there, he won't sell, the place is sacred for whoever lived in the 50's. Even the city has attempted to buy it, and the guy hasn't budged. He use to own much more of the land, but Hialeah literally taxed the guy to death and he had to sell some of the parking (about 5 acres) to get out of debt, which as a matter of fact was sold to the city where they built a post office, and street (located right in the front). The only reason the racetrack isn't going right now is cause the owner was stripped of his license for some years now, but I believe if I heard right he'll be getting his license back in 2 years and he intends on re-opening the place up. The guy has his mind set-up, it won't happen!

 

I hope that the owner(John Brunetti) is successful. Hialeah Race Track was and still is a beautiful historic place, frequented by Al Capone in it's heyday and going strong until 1975. Heck, I got Pete Roses' signature on a racing program at Hialeah back in 1988. There's other places that are better located for a ballpark, specifically the Hialeah Heights section. Hopefully both will happen. I have memories of going to Hialeah with my Dad back in the 70's that are as strong as the memories of me and my Dad at Shea Stadium back in the 60's. In the end though, as a fan of baseball AND horse racing, I'd raze Hialeah Race Track to the ground to have a new baseball stadium if that was my personal choice.

 

I have been reading on John Brunetti. He has failed numerous times to get his license reinstated. His argument was that he could not compete with the the other horse tracks. He is holding out because he thinks when the slots are proposed again for voters in Dade County that they would include the racetrack as another casino destination along with the fronton, dog tracks, and that somehow it could get passed.

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I went by the track a few weeks ago and the condition inwhich the stables and other structures are in is horrible. Bringing that place back up would help that area so much.

 

I'm sure. The stables haven't been used in a couple of years. The main structure is in need or repairs. But the horse racing surface itself remains amongst the world's best, and you're probably looking at a minimum of 50M to bring the whole place back to horse racing glory. And this wouldn't benefit the area greatly. A baseball stadium would transform that area. For those that haven't been there, the area is low to middle class and industrial/commercial and poor. But it's located well in relation to downtown Miami.

 

Plus if I remember correctly, the Metrorail line runs pretty close to it. I might be wrong and thinking about someplace else, but I thought it was near the racetrack.

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I went by the track a few weeks ago and the condition inwhich the stables and other structures are in is horrible. Bringing that place back up would help that area so much.

 

I'm sure. The stables haven't been used in a couple of years. The main structure is in need or repairs. But the horse racing surface itself remains amongst the world's best, and you're probably looking at a minimum of 50M to bring the whole place back to horse racing glory. And this wouldn't benefit the area greatly. A baseball stadium would transform that area. For those that haven't been there, the area is low to middle class and industrial/commercial and poor. But it's located well in relation to downtown Miami.

 

Plus if I remember correctly, the Metrorail line runs pretty close to it. I might be wrong and thinking about someplace else, but I thought it was near the racetrack.

 

The Hialeah MetroRail stop is right next to the Race Track.

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Then if it sits next to a piece of mass transit like the Metrorail that a good portion of the working population uses to get out of downtown Miami, then I would say that its the perfect place in Miami Dade. A part of me doesn't exacly want to tear down a piece of history like race track, but if its not going to do anything but sit there and rot away, it should be used towards something that people can gather and enjoy much like people did back in the day for the racetrack.

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