DolphinStadiumCrazie Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Ok, I truly do not like the Phillies, but this guy needs to get more respect. No 1 in the majors in HR, #2 in RBI(1st in NL). I know people recognize what hes doing, but we've been hearing Beltran and Pujols for MVP. This guy is crazy, and he needs to win it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madman81 Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Only if they make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonDigital Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 Miggy for MVP /ducks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DolphinStadiumCrazie Posted August 17, 2006 Author Share Posted August 17, 2006 ^lol, i wish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sirspud Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 This guy has been winning some games single-dandedly for the Phillies. It isn't his fault that they aren't winning more. If I could vote I would give it to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fritz Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 1. Howard 2. Beltran 3. Pujols Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackMcCoke Posted August 17, 2006 Share Posted August 17, 2006 I guess to be considered for MVP you have to be a power hitter? :confused Jose Reyes. The guy is on pace for 134 runs, 200 hits, 31 doubles, 21 triples, 19 HR's, 82 RBI's and 68 stolen bases along with a .298 average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psycho Sid Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I guess to be considered for MVP you have to be a power hitter? :confused Jose Reyes. The guy is on pace for 134 runs, 200 hits, 31 doubles, 21 triples, 19 HR's, 82 RBI's and 68 stolen bases along with a .298 average. Beltran is on pace for .289, 47 HR 138 RBI 19 SB .390 OBP, .624 SLG (1.014 OPS) My rankings: 1. Carlos Beltran 2. Albert Pujols 3. Ryan Howard 4. Lance Berkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy42Jack0 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 as much as i loathe beltran, it has to be him...howard plays in a ball park the size of a tin can...and without looking at his splits...im gonna say he would have to do much better on the road and play on a winning team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ24 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 looking at those mvp stats only makes me wonder what type of year pujols could have had, had he not been injured for that month. Howard Beltran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSwift25 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 It'd be a shame if Howard doesn't win it, but this season truly is a big time nit-picker "by definition" MVP. I mean, you could honestly make a case for Berkman, Cabrera, Pujols, Beltran, Howard and even (I guess) Reyes. By definition, the MVP has to be Howard, Cabrera or Berkman as without any of those players, their respective teams are absolutely bottom of the barrel. Pujols and Beltran are the two highest profile players with gaudy numbers for October thinking teams, and Reyes may be even more important to his team's success than Beltran. However, I have a hard time seeing the case for Beltran as without him, the Mets are still comfortably ahead in the division (FWIW, I think the Mets' MVP should be a tie between Glavine and Reyes), and with Pujols, you have a guy who's simply the victim of his own greatness. I mean, how many players have a season in which they hit .320 and 40 some odd homers for a division leader and not get the MVP publicity daily? If I had a vote, I'd vote for Howard or Pujols, but in the end, I think Beltran takes it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rune Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 Granted I'm a homer, but he and Chase Utley have drug this team into playoff contention. His numbers are sick, and he is more valuable to his team than Beltran. The Mets would still be very good even if he was stinking up the joint 2005 style. The Phillies would be be a solid contender for the bottom of the NL East without him. BTW, he's just as good on the road as he is at Home. Home: 291, 22, 59 with an OPS of1.015 Away: 303, 20, 47. 1.003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrerafan Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 As I posted on the Marlins' board, Howard, while having a monster season, is not coming through w/ RISP. (As of yesterday, batting only .238 w/ RISP and .194 w/ RISP and 2 out). My guess is that it will be Beltran, even though I agree that the Mets would still be a good team without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
industrialescampeon Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I think he certainly has the numbers. While Pujols is Pujols and he is maybe the best player in the league right now, Howard is putting up amazing numbers, better than Pujols' and Beltran's. He does play in a small park, but we've all seen the way he hits those hrs. Those are no doubters anywhere. Besides, his stats on the road are just as impressive. He has 19 hrs, 47 rbis and is hitting .305 in 54 games (has played 63 at home). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mauer7 Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 1. howard 2. pujols 3. beltran you gotta remember this is the most Valuable player, not neccessarily the BEST player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Rob Posted August 19, 2006 Share Posted August 19, 2006 Beltran wins it over Howard simply because of the standings. Ryan Howard is absolutely sick with the stick though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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