The statement Kerry posted online was not much of an apology in the eyes of those offended.

 

 

Neither was the Pope's apology to Muslims, but hey, you didn't think it was necessary the first, second, third, or fourth times he gave it, did you?

an ex-Marine

No such thing as an "ex-Marine."

 

We don't need more people like Lieberman

You do if your party wants to have any success in the future.

 

I do agree that many poor people see the military as a way to pay for college if they can't on their own.

 

I feel this way because my best friend ships out for the Navy on January 22nd. The reason he did so was because he got kicked out of high school and sees it as his only alternative to maybe go to college someday and be able to pay for it. So don't tell me it's an "elitist, democrat" point of view.

 

And hey, if we are making baseless remarks, all republicans think all black people are mooching off of welfare.

The Navy, AF, and Marine Corps all do not accept high school dropouts. Infact they don't even accept you if you have a GED, if you have a GED you're considered a Tier 2 recruit and none of the three aforementioned branches will even talk to you because they do not accept Tier 2 recruits. The only way to 'upgrade' yourself to a Tier 1 recruit is to go to college and earn 15 credits and once you do that you'll be considered Tier 1 and able to enlist. 98% of the military are high school graduates, it would be nearly 100%, except the Army is accepting an overwhelming number of Tier 2, 3, and even 4 recruits, I think the number is something like only 82% of the current active duty Army are HS graduates - however people need to realize the Army is not the entire military and there are four other branches.

 

The statement Kerry posted online was not much of an apology in the eyes of those offended.

Nothing says sincerity like an online press release.

 

Fact: Kerry won the Silver Star.

Fact: Kerry made the statement.

Opinion: I think Kerry had a "slip-up" and said an offensive statement.

Fact: Kerry won't apologize.

Opinion: I WANT KERRY TO APOLOGIZE!

 

Fact: John Kerry lost the election, is bitter, and will do anything to get headlines and get his name back in the loop as a frontline Democrat.

 

Fact: John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Howard Dean make the Democratic party look bad.

 

Fact: Dems need more people like Joe Lieberman and Obama

 

FACT: Lieberman is an opportunistic DINO who will do anything for power, even bash his own party on Fox News and take donations from known Republican causes.

 

FACT: Bush HATES Kerry.

 

FACT: It's because of Howard Dean's 50-State Strategy that the Dems are on the precipice of capturing both houses of Congress.

 

FACT: I don't much like Hillary either, if that's any consolation.

 

Oh, I got the point. I'm sure that you didn't get MY point.

 

What, that a vocal minority is not representative of a quiet majority?

 

Perhaps you should practice what you preach...considering Kerry went over like the Hindenberg. :whistle

Again, you didn't get my point. I was talking about the design of the poster, idiot.

You're not very perceptive, are you?

 

The picture is real, and if you don't understand why the soldiers who made the banner wrote it in that way, then I don't know what to tell you.

I do agree that many poor people see the military as a way to pay for college if they can't on their own.

 

I feel this way because my best friend ships out for the Navy on January 22nd. The reason he did so was because he got kicked out of high school and sees it as his only alternative to maybe go to college someday and be able to pay for it. So don't tell me it's an "elitist, democrat" point of view.

 

And hey, if we are making baseless remarks, all republicans think all black people are mooching off of welfare.

 

The Navy, AF, and Marine Corps all do not accept high school dropouts. Infact they don't even accept you if you have a GED, if you have a GED you're considered a Tier 2 recruit and none of the three aforementioned branches will even talk to you because they do not accept Tier 2 recruits. The only way to 'upgrade' yourself to a Tier 1 recruit is to go to college and earn 15 credits and once you do that you'll be considered Tier 1 and able to enlist. 98% of the military are high school graduates, it would be nearly 100%, except the Army is accepting an overwhelming number of Tier 2, 3, and even 4 recruits, I think the number is something like only 82% of the current active duty Army are HS graduates - however people need to realize the Army is not the entire military and there are four other branches.

 

Well, the Navy's going to have a lot of explaining to do when my friend ships out, because he most definetly does not have a high school diploma, just a GED. Must have been a clerical error, right?

 

Whats the percentage of national guard troops with high school diplomas?

No such thing as an "ex-Marine."

 

Well, he is. Probably should have never been a Marine had the military not botched his psychological exam initially (he had an undiagnosed mental disability).

I do agree that many poor people see the military as a way to pay for college if they can't on their own.

 

I feel this way because my best friend ships out for the Navy on January 22nd. The reason he did so was because he got kicked out of high school and sees it as his only alternative to maybe go to college someday and be able to pay for it. So don't tell me it's an "elitist, democrat" point of view.

 

And hey, if we are making baseless remarks, all republicans think all black people are mooching off of welfare.

 

The Navy, AF, and Marine Corps all do not accept high school dropouts. Infact they don't even accept you if you have a GED, if you have a GED you're considered a Tier 2 recruit and none of the three aforementioned branches will even talk to you because they do not accept Tier 2 recruits. The only way to 'upgrade' yourself to a Tier 1 recruit is to go to college and earn 15 credits and once you do that you'll be considered Tier 1 and able to enlist. 98% of the military are high school graduates, it would be nearly 100%, except the Army is accepting an overwhelming number of Tier 2, 3, and even 4 recruits, I think the number is something like only 82% of the current active duty Army are HS graduates - however people need to realize the Army is not the entire military and there are four other branches.

 

Well, the Navy's going to have a lot of explaining to do when my friend ships out, because he most definetly does not have a high school diploma, just a GED. Must have been a clerical error, right?

 

Whats the percentage of national guard troops with high school diplomas?

Congress mandates how many Tier 1, 2, 3, and 4 recruits each branch is allowed to have for the entire force. For the Navy, Marine Corps, and Air Force the number is right around 98.5% or so of the entire force must be Tier 1, no exceptions. There is still 1% or 2% left over however, and this means that some recruiting stations have 1 slot open for a Tier 2 recruit and the slot is reserved for someone who is truly exceptional, they may be a Tier 2 but they also have a near perfect PFT score, require no moral or medical waivers, are willing to accept a less than desireable job, etc. There are a countless number of people who fall under Tier 2 that want to join with mabye 1 slot open at a couple of recruiting stations in each district, very few people are able to get the slots and they're not even worth mentioning, so your friend must have gotten one of those slots and your friend must be pretty sh*t hot then.

 

No such thing as an "ex-Marine."

 

Well, he is. Probably should have never been a Marine had the military not botched his psychological exam initially (he had an undiagnosed mental disability).

Once a Marine, always a Marine. Once you earn the title, it is yours for the rest of your life. The only Marines who are considered "ex-Marines" are those who have been discharged dishonorably or discharged under "other than honorable" conditions.

It was a stupid thing to say.

 

That being said, he could have easily pulled some statistics about recruiting and how they try and appeal to the lowest common denominator and it would have rung true.

 

Either way, it's not that big of a deal. Dude's a democrat so of course the other side is going to portray "all democrats" as having that point of view, which is equally stupid/fallacious.

That being said, he could have easily pulled some statistics about recruiting and how they try and appeal to the lowest common denominator and it would have rung true.

Absolutely baseless statement. Quit watching Fahrenheit 9/11.

 

Only 14.6% of people who join the military come from the "lowest common denominator," while 22% of people who join the military come from wealthy families and the remaining 63.4% come from middleclass families.

 

The Government Accountability Office (GAO) recently published a study detailing the demograph?ics of the U.S. military. The study was undertaken in response to a request by Representative Charles Ran?gel (D?NY), who in December 2002 claimed that ?[a]disproportionate number of the poor and mem?bers of minority groups make up the enlisted ranks of the military, while most privileged Americans are underrepresented or absent.?

 

The GAO study surveys a num?ber of Department of Defense (DOD) personnel issues and does not support Representative Ran?gel?s claims that poor minorities are disproportionately represented. A similar study by The Heritage Foundation, which will be published this month, is more definitive in answering the question of new enlistees and their ?privileged? status. The Heritage Foundation study analyzes DOD data on all non? prior-service enlistees for the years 1999 and 2003 by income, education, and race. Studying the home-of-record ZIP codes of enlistees, we also identify the states and regions providing the most enlistees, and changes since September 11, 2001.

 

Income. According to the 2000 Census, national median income for all U.S. households was $41,994 in 1999 (all figures use 1999 dollars), compared to a mean household income of $41,141 for homes of recruits of that year. We calculate recruit income by using the median household income of the five-digit ZIP code of the recruit?s home of record. Because more recruits came from high-income neighbor?hoods in 2003, the mean income rose to $42,822. There were proportionately fewer recruits (18.0 per?cent) from the poorest quintile of ZIP codes in 1999, as well as fewer from the richest quintile (18.6 per?cent). The income distribution of new recruits after September 11, 2001, is remarkably different. In 2003, only 14.6 percent of military recruits came from the poorest quintile, while the wealthiest quin?tile provided 22.0 percent.

 

Education. In 1999, 98 per?cent of all enlisted recruits had at least a high school education, compared to the national average of 75 percent among citizens who are 18?24 years old. In 2003, no three-digit ZIP code area had a higher graduation rate among its population than among its recruits. After September 11, 2001, the educational quality of recruits rose slightly.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalSecurity/em987.cfm

 

Edit: The statistics I posted is from 3 years ago, over the past 3 years the number of the poor who join has dropped even more.

 

It is commonly claimed that the military relies on recruits from poorer neighborhoods because the wealthy will not risk death in war. This claim has been advanced without any rigorous evidence. Our review of Pen?tagon enlistee data shows that the only group that is lowering its participation in the military is the poor. The percentage of recruits from the poorest American neighborhoods (with one-fifth of the U.S. population) declined from 18 percent in 1999 to 14.6 percent in 2003, 14.1 percent in 2004, and 13.7 percent in 2005.

 

http://www.heritage.org/Research/NationalS...ty/cda06-09.cfm

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

statistics for one, history for the other

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

statistics for one, history for the other

There's a difference between the military and active combat.

Either way, it's not that big of a deal. Dude's a democrat so of course the other side is going to portray "all democrats" as having that point of view, which is equally stupid/fallacious.

It's good to know the Democrats are above that. :happydance

Either way, it's not that big of a deal. Dude's a democrat so of course the other side is going to portray "all democrats" as having that point of view, which is equally stupid/fallacious.

It's good to know the Democrats are above that. :happydance

They're not. Obviously this is what politics has become.

 

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

 

Meh, I'm not saying appeal as in trying to get in favor with them. I remember the army having a whole damn day at our school to go around and talk to kids. You didn't see them doing that at Dublin, Worthington or Upper Arlington (I remember a friend at OSU from UA saying that was "ghetto" in fact), but they'd most definitely pull that at a Groveport, a Reynoldsburg and Independance High School(s) in the Columbus area.

 

That's my experience. Doesn't mean it applies to every situation, however. They can "appeal" to other people in other ways. They could DEFINITELY go and try to appeal to the rich and their wallets. I obviously meant more of a recruiting sense.

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

statistics for one, history for the other

Show me the statistic?

 

Nevermind, i'll do it for you.

 

86.3% of the entire military right now during a time of war comes from a middle class or wealthy families.

 

Get a f***ing clue, stop running your mouth, and stop spewing blatant lies.

Either way, it's not that big of a deal. Dude's a democrat so of course the other side is going to portray "all democrats" as having that point of view, which is equally stupid/fallacious.

It's good to know the Democrats are above that. :happydance

They're not. Obviously this is what politics has become.

 

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

 

Meh, I'm not saying appeal as in trying to get in favor with them. I remember the army having a whole damn day at our school to go around and talk to kids. You didn't see them doing that at Dublin, Worthington or Upper Arlington (I remember a friend at OSU from UA saying that was "ghetto" in fact), but they'd most definitely pull that at a Groveport, a Reynoldsburg and Independance High School(s) in the Columbus area.

 

That's my experience. Doesn't mean it applies to every situation, however. They can "appeal" to other people in other ways. They could DEFINITELY go and try to appeal to the rich and their wallets. I obviously meant more of a recruiting sense.

I realize that you guys aren't military aficionado's or anything, but can we PLEASE stop assuming that the Army is representative of the ENTIRE military? Our military is more than 2 million strong and the active Army does not even make up 25% of that. There are four other branches besides the Army, all of which have high standards and unlike the Army, have the luxury of being selective and not accepting just anyone.

 

I am not denying anything that you've said about the Army, i've seen it first hand just like you have, i've had Army recruiters hound me and try and bribe me with $40,000 enlistment bonuses to drop out of Marine Corps DEP (I am proudly receiving a bonus of $0.00, I don't want someone next to me watching my back who is there because he got a bonus and not because he's a patriot), but what I am trying to say is don't just assume because the Army is like that, the four other branches are as well, because that is so far from the truth. When I was at MEPS, there was a very noticeable difference between the recruits who were joining the Army and the recruits going into the other 4 branches - i'll just leave it at that. The Army gets all the headlines for low standards, accepting dropouts, underhanded recruiter tactics, etc. and regular everyday American's who don't know any better just assume the entire military is like that, and it's not!

Who does the bulk of the fighting in Iraq?

Who does the bulk of the fighting in Iraq?

 

Uh, the Merchant Marine?

Who does the bulk of the fighting in Iraq?

The Marine Corps and the Army. I know what argument you're going to try and make.

 

Both are sustaining about the same number of casualties, both are doing 99.999% of the fighting, yet one branch has maintained and even INCREASED their already high standards, offers no bonuses, doesn't even guarantee you a job, and has a waiting list of people wanting to join - on the other hand the other branch has had to lower their standards so much so that anyone with a pulse can get in, offer absurd bonuses which you could immediately go out pay cash for a brand new Corvette, and guarantee you the world.

 

The first branch says "Do you have what it takes to be one of us?" while the other says "Please join, i'm begging you, here is $50,000 dollars cash and money for college!" I know which one I would choose, infact I already have.

Michelle Malkin is my dream girl.

 

The Democrats' Military Disdain

By Michelle Malkin

November 1, 2006

 

The Democrats' failed 2004 presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry, may have just sabotaged his party's highest hopes for the 2006 midterm elections. Karl Rove himself couldn't have engineered a better campaign reminder of the Democrats' utter lack of credibility when it comes to supporting, respecting and leading America's military.

 

Here is what Sen. Kerry told an audience of young people at a campaign event on the Pasadena City College campus on Monday held for losing California Democrat gubernatorial challenger Phil Angelides:

 

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

 

And this man aspired to be our nation's 21st-century commander in chief with that Neanderthal 1960s attitude? Both a local NBC news affiliate reporter and a Pasadena Star-News reporter mentioned Kerry's statement without fully realizing the condescending slam against our, ahem, all-volunteer armed forces embedded in the remarks. The Star-News did observe that the derisive comment was met with "a mixture of laughter and gasps." But it wasn't until after KFI-AM Los Angeles radio show host John Ziegler posted the audio on the Internet (web site) and a YouTube user posted video of the event (web site) that a firestorm broke out on the airwaves and across the right side of the blogosphere.

 

America has the best-trained, most professional, most well-educated military in the world. But the moonbats want only to hear the myths of the soldier-as-victim or the soldier-as-brutalizer or soldier-as-indentured servant. Never mind that for every two volunteer recruits coming from the poorest neighborhoods, there are three recruits coming from the richest neighborhoods, as The Heritage Foundation recently reported. Never mind that 99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education. Never mind that 49.2 percent of officers have advanced or professional degrees; 39.4 percent have master's degrees; 8.5 percent have professional degrees; and 1.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

 

Kerry's response to the backlash from military families around the globe? An adviser admitted to the National Journal that his boss's botched warning to students was "mangled." But a Kerry press release instead attacked Rush Limbaugh, White House spokesman Tony Snow and "assorted right-wing nut-jobs" (present!) for the words that came out of his mouth and his mouth alone. The Associated Press water-carrier for Kerry and the Dems, left-wing reporter Jennifer Loven, dutifully recycled the Democrat line that Kerry was really targeting President Bush, not the lazy, uneducated troops "stuck in Iraq."

 

Nonsense. The intent was clear enough for at least some in the audience to "gasp," as the local reporter on the scene described.

 

This is no isolated case of Democrat incompetence and insensitivity toward the military. Kerry's party is the party of Dick Durbin, who likened American interrogators and Gitmo military staff to Nazis, Soviet gulag operators and genocidal maniac Pol Pot.

 

Kerry's party is the party of Patty Murray, who praised Osama bin Laden's charity work with nary a nod to our men and women in uniform who have sailed and flown to the most far-flung regions of the world on reconstruction and humanitarian missions. Kerry's party is the party that approved of him tarring American troops as terrorizers in Iraq last year.

 

And Kerry's party is the party whose national party website couldn't even find an American soldier to illustrate a page dedicated to "Veterans and Military Families" (michellemalkin.com/archives/006073.htm). Until a military reader of my blog called attention to it, the DNC site erroneously featured a photo of a Canadian soldier named "Abdul" in its attempt to show support for American troops.

 

Can you trust a party with such entrenched disdain and contempt for the military to use that power well and wisely at a time of war? America made a choice in 2004. Two years later, the Democrats have said and done nothing to earn the nation's endorsement now.

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

statistics for one, history for the other

Show me the statistic?

 

Nevermind, i'll do it for you.

 

86.3% of the entire military right now during a time of war comes from a middle class or wealthy families.

 

Get a f***ing clue, stop running your mouth, and stop spewing blatant lies.

the middle class is doing most of the fighting in this war...that has already been shown here...my point is that traditionally, the rich do not fight the wars in which they create...that is for the poor and middle class to do...that is the way it has always been and the way it always be...in my life time i have met many many military men and not one of them i would call rich and set for life...they worked their ass off every single day and im sure proud of that...it shows the dedication it takes to be in our military...most who are rich, would refuse to leave their comfy homes...i mean come on...mansion, hot girls, booze, laying by the pool, etc. > the beaches of normandy...war is hell...it takes mad f***ing balls to sign up...but back to my point...generally speaking...the military doesnt really appeal to MOST rich people...is that a pretty agreeable statement?

 

Michelle Malkin is my dream girl.

 

The Democrats' Military Disdain

By Michelle Malkin

November 1, 2006

 

The Democrats' failed 2004 presidential candidate, Sen. John Kerry, may have just sabotaged his party's highest hopes for the 2006 midterm elections. Karl Rove himself couldn't have engineered a better campaign reminder of the Democrats' utter lack of credibility when it comes to supporting, respecting and leading America's military.

 

Here is what Sen. Kerry told an audience of young people at a campaign event on the Pasadena City College campus on Monday held for losing California Democrat gubernatorial challenger Phil Angelides:

 

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

 

And this man aspired to be our nation's 21st-century commander in chief with that Neanderthal 1960s attitude? Both a local NBC news affiliate reporter and a Pasadena Star-News reporter mentioned Kerry's statement without fully realizing the condescending slam against our, ahem, all-volunteer armed forces embedded in the remarks. The Star-News did observe that the derisive comment was met with "a mixture of laughter and gasps." But it wasn't until after KFI-AM Los Angeles radio show host John Ziegler posted the audio on the Internet (web site) and a YouTube user posted video of the event (web site) that a firestorm broke out on the airwaves and across the right side of the blogosphere.

 

America has the best-trained, most professional, most well-educated military in the world. But the moonbats want only to hear the myths of the soldier-as-victim or the soldier-as-brutalizer or soldier-as-indentured servant. Never mind that for every two volunteer recruits coming from the poorest neighborhoods, there are three recruits coming from the richest neighborhoods, as The Heritage Foundation recently reported. Never mind that 99.9 percent of the enlisted force have at least a high school education. Never mind that 49.2 percent of officers have advanced or professional degrees; 39.4 percent have master's degrees; 8.5 percent have professional degrees; and 1.3 percent have doctorate degrees.

 

Kerry's response to the backlash from military families around the globe? An adviser admitted to the National Journal that his boss's botched warning to students was "mangled." But a Kerry press release instead attacked Rush Limbaugh, White House spokesman Tony Snow and "assorted right-wing nut-jobs" (present!) for the words that came out of his mouth and his mouth alone. The Associated Press water-carrier for Kerry and the Dems, left-wing reporter Jennifer Loven, dutifully recycled the Democrat line that Kerry was really targeting President Bush, not the lazy, uneducated troops "stuck in Iraq."

 

Nonsense. The intent was clear enough for at least some in the audience to "gasp," as the local reporter on the scene described.

 

This is no isolated case of Democrat incompetence and insensitivity toward the military. Kerry's party is the party of Dick Durbin, who likened American interrogators and Gitmo military staff to Nazis, Soviet gulag operators and genocidal maniac Pol Pot.

 

Kerry's party is the party of Patty Murray, who praised Osama bin Laden's charity work with nary a nod to our men and women in uniform who have sailed and flown to the most far-flung regions of the world on reconstruction and humanitarian missions. Kerry's party is the party that approved of him tarring American troops as terrorizers in Iraq last year.

 

And Kerry's party is the party whose national party website couldn't even find an American soldier to illustrate a page dedicated to "Veterans and Military Families" (michellemalkin.com/archives/006073.htm). Until a military reader of my blog called attention to it, the DNC site erroneously featured a photo of a Canadian soldier named "Abdul" in its attempt to show support for American troops.

 

Can you trust a party with such entrenched disdain and contempt for the military to use that power well and wisely at a time of war? America made a choice in 2004. Two years later, the Democrats have said and done nothing to earn the nation's endorsement now.

yeah...so at least that isnt a huge sweeping general statement basically saying that all democrats are war hating hippies who dont know how to use our military effectively enough(here's an idea...two front wars arent smart historically speaking...especially when their isnt a clear objective in either war)

I said appeal. Didn't say that meant they WERE the military.

Who's to say the military doesn't appeal to the wealthy?

statistics for one, history for the other

Show me the statistic?

 

Nevermind, i'll do it for you.

 

86.3% of the entire military right now during a time of war comes from a middle class or wealthy families.

 

Get a f***ing clue, stop running your mouth, and stop spewing blatant lies.

the middle class is doing most of the fighting in this war...that has already been shown here...my point is that traditionally, the rich do not fight the wars in which they create...that is for the poor and middle class to do...that is the way it has always been and the way it always be...in my life time i have met many many military men and not one of them i would call rich and set for life...they worked their ass off every single day and im sure proud of that...it shows the dedication it takes to be in our military...most who are rich, would refuse to leave their comfy homes...i mean come on...mansion, hot girls, booze, laying by the pool, etc. > the beaches of normandy...war is hell...it takes mad f***ing balls to sign up...but back to my point...generally speaking...the military doesnt really appeal to MOST rich people...is that a pretty agreeable statement?

You can say whatever you want Jimmy, but the FACTS are for every 2 recruits who enlist that come from the POOREST families, there are 3 more who enlist that come from the WEALTHIEST families. There are more bonafide rich members of the military than there are poor.

What a horrible article. She basically assumes that Kerry hates the troops, and that his ENTIRE PARTY is like that. What a bunch of BS, plain and simple.

 

If you actually believe that, you have lost your mind.

I didnt vote for john kerry last election, but I didnt hate the guy.

 

Now its a little different, I'm in the Active Duty Air Force and have alot of friends in Iraq now, I was supposed to go but I wasnt medically cleared.

 

Anyway, what ever John Kerry "meant" is neither here nor there. He basically said if your smart you wont join the military. He apologized I guess, but whatever, the dude hates the military, he hated it when he was in, he hates it now. When I say hate, I dont mean he "HATES" it like I hate Paris Hilton, I mean he just is on some high horse.

 

As for only poor people being in the military, I can assure you I was not poor before comming into the AF, and most of my friends weren't.

 

If you plan your sh*t right while your in the military, and arent an idiot like me with money, you'd be set for life. This guy I know was in the AF for 21 years, retired in 95. Guys pretty well off, has 4 houses, one in Guam, one in the Philippenes one In California and the other in Florida. He's smart with his money, and while we dont make that much in the military(I make less then I did when I was managing a retail store) we do get our benifits. I'm getting my wisdon teeth plunked and seeing the Docs around here for all sorts a sh*t, so i can get better. And even if I didnt get better, by the way it wasnt cause my wisdom teeth that I couldnt deploy it was for something a little more serious, the military will discarage me medically and I get benifits forever.

 

 

Not too bad.

 

So Jimmy I'm going to ask you to call me, over here in Guam. Message me for my number, and call me or give me yours, because I think I can help you remove your head out your ass, I'm pretty good at it over the phone. I love doing that, helping people, it makes me feel better because then...then I know there is one less misinformed soul out there, and I did my part.

Who does the bulk of the fighting in Iraq?

The Marine Corps and the Army. I know what argument you're going to try and make.

 

Both are sustaining about the same number of casualties, both are doing 99.999% of the fighting, yet one branch has maintained and even INCREASED their already high standards, offers no bonuses, doesn't even guarantee you a job, and has a waiting list of people wanting to join - on the other hand the other branch has had to lower their standards so much so that anyone with a pulse can get in, offer absurd bonuses which you could immediately go out pay cash for a brand new Corvette, and guarantee you the world.

 

The first branch says "Do you have what it takes to be one of us?" while the other says "Please join, i'm begging you, here is $50,000 dollars cash and money for college!" I know which one I would choose, infact I already have.

 

You speak so lowly of those who fight in the army yet you demand apologies from Kerry for a botched joke.

 

And you made my point for me. Clearly the army is having shortages and is resorting to desperate tactics to get people to join. Why wouldn't they actively recruit people who have fewer opportunites with the argument that the army can be an opportunity? Clearly the army isnt appealing to anyone at this point but it would be most appealing to the poor and uneducated would it not?

He basically said if your smart you wont join the military.

Actually, I believe that people thought he said "only uneducated people should join the military'.