MoveFishToOrlando Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I was up late tonight and i saw on the bottom line that Buster Olney reported that the A's and OF Shannon Stewart came to terms for a one year contract. Marlins lose another possible OF canidate and it appears were going to go from within. sorry no link or article yet, but im sure one will be coming... :thumbdown this is the article from mlbtraderumors.com A's Sign Shannon Stewart According to ESPN's Buster Olney, the A's have signed outfielder Shannon Stewart to a one-year deal that could reach $2.5MM with incentives. If Stewart can overcome plantar fasciitis in both feet, he can fill Jay Payton's role as Oakland's fourth outfielder. It's a strong need given the fragility of Mark Kotsay and Milton Bradley. Stewart, who turns 33 later this month, earned $6.5MM in 2006. PECOTA sees him hitting .276/.332/.383 in 335 plate appearances this year, finding him most similar to the 1987 version of Gary Ward. Another good comp is Brady Clark. ZiPS expects .275/.341/.392 from Stewart in 373 PAs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Shannon Stewart was never a legitimate option in centerfield for the Marlins. Why someone would think he was is beyond me? The guy hasn't stepped foot in centerfield in six or seven years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr_eob Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Never expected the fish to go for this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMania Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He is better than what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miamibaseball Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 i donot see marlins pick up anyone because their donot have money to use i think spring lineup is set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rferry Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He is better than what we have. With his injuries and inability to play CF, how he better than Ross, Amezaga and Borchard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMania Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He is better than what we have. With his injuries and inability to play CF, how he better than Ross, Amezaga and Borchard? Well lets take a look at last years numbers. Ross 269 at bats .227 average Borchard 239 at bats .239 average Amenzaga 334 at bats .260 average Forgive me if I am not impressed by that. Stewart 174 at bats .293 average He missed alot of time last season. However 7 out of the 8 previous seasons be played 130+ games. He is also a career .299 hitter. He may not have power but he wont be an automatic out like the three options we currently have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricWiener Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He wasn't an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fish4Life Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Marlins have already stated that CF and Closer will come within'... No need to read into what CF were going to get because were not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He is better than what we have. With his injuries and inability to play CF, how he better than Ross, Amezaga and Borchard? Well lets take a look at last years numbers. Ross 269 at bats .227 average Borchard 239 at bats .239 average Amenzaga 334 at bats .260 average Forgive me if I am not impressed by that. Stewart 174 at bats .293 average He missed alot of time last season. However 7 out of the 8 previous seasons be played 130+ games. He is also a career .299 hitter. He may not have power but he wont be an automatic out like the three options we currently have. What don't you understand about the fact he physically is unable to play centerfield? Really, not looking for a fight here but it isn't all about his offensive skils. No one is arguing over his career he was a helluva hitter. He has chronic problems in his feet and couldn't play CF at DS regradless of the size of his heart or his strength of character he possesses. Not to mention he hasn't played the position for six years or so. That's why we are saying he wasn't an option. Not because you're wrong but because physically he's unable to play there. Here's how Rotoworld put it this morning: " ESPN's Buster Olney reports that the A's and Shannon Stewart have agreed to terms on a one-year deal. The contract could be worth $2.5 million if Stewart reaches incentives. The A's needed to bring in some additional competiton with Jay Payton gone. Stewart may no longer be able to play regularly because of his foot problems, but he could still be an asset at the top of the lineup playing three or four times per week. He'll battle Dan Johnson for at-bats, with Nick Swisher possibly alternating between first base and left field. The A's could also use Swisher in right and Milton Bradley in center when Mark Kotsay rests his sore back." From MLB: "Stewart, 32, has been limited by plantar fasciitis in both feet over the past three years; he played in 44 games with the Twins in 2006 and 92 games in '04." From AP: The Oakland Athletics have reached an agreement with free agent outfielder Shannon Stewart for a one-year deal that could be worth as much as $2.5 million with incentives, pending a physical, ESPN The Magazine's Buster Olney has learned. Stewart, 32, is a .299 career hitter with 102 home runs in 11 seasons with Toronto and Minnesota. His best year came in 2000, when he hit 21 homers and drove in 69 runs for the Blue Jays. Stewart has had plantar fasciitis problems in both feet over the past three years, limiting him to 92 games in 2004 and only 44 last season with the Minnesota Twins. The plantar fascia is a long tissue that connects the heel bone to the base of the toes. The Twins transferred Stewart to the 60-day disabled list on Sept. 1 after acquiring infielder Phil Nevin from the Chicago Cubs for a player to be named or cash considerations. The injury-prone Stewart is perhaps best known for sparking the Twins to a come-from-behind AL Central title in 2003 after his All-Star break arrival in a trade with the Blue Jays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetsMania Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Well lets just see how he does this season. I am not saying he is an all world player, I just think he is better than what we have. Anyways it doesnt matter since he just got signed. Regardless, does anyone feel comforable with Ross, Amenzaga or Borchard as an everyday center fielder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoveFishToOrlando Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 He wasn't an option. Im going to search around today for the article. But for 2 weeks the MARLINS and STEWART were talking and someone even posted on here that we were considering him as a option. so YES he was an option. Ill prove it later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He wasn't an option. Im going to search around today for the article. But for 2 weeks the MARLINS and STEWART were talking and someone even posted on here that we were considering him as a option. so YES he was an option. Ill prove it later I think it was that Stewart was more interested in us than we were in him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 He wasn't an option. Im going to search around today for the article. But for 2 weeks the MARLINS and STEWART were talking and someone even posted on here that we were considering him as a option. so YES he was an option. Ill prove it later I think you're going to find out that Shannon Stewart (probably through his agent) "reached out" to the Marlins and not vice versa, and most likely as a courtesy to a hometown boy (and an agent they might want something from in the future) the Marlins listened and gave his client the benefit of the doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoveFishToOrlando Posted February 8, 2007 Author Share Posted February 8, 2007 well its over now anyway. i wouldve felt better about the team if we tried for him. he is better than what we have and he wouldve been a better idea for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 :banghead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramp Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 As much as I wished Stewart could play CF even 80 games, I suspect he can barely move out there, thus it would be better off not wasting our time with him. And we wont even know if he could play CF anymore, for the A's have a pretty steady one out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Punisher Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 YIPPI, that was my PICK. MAN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsContinueTo ShowDomi Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Stewart couldn't physically handle the job of an everyday centerfielder, it shouldn't even be considered a lost chance by him not coming to the Marls , as he wasn't a realistic option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fallen Apple Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 He is better than what we have. Then agian who isnt, I mean thats not a good reason we should have signed him who's to say that Benifest wont use that money in a trade later on to get someone better than him. Theres alot of OF's out there than our better than what we have now and we could do better than Shannon Stewart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I couldn't NOT post this... Stewart could be another bargain A's told his foot problems over Susan Slusser, Chronicle Staff Writer Friday, February 9, 2007 Without a lot of notice, Jay Payton was one of the A's most valuable players last season. While Frank Thomas' departure as a free agent got a lot of attention, Payton's didn't, and it appeared that Oakland might go into spring training without replacing the versatile outfielder that led the team in hitting. On Thursday, however -- with just over a week until pitchers and catchers report -- the A's came to terms with Shannon Stewart on a one-year, $1 million deal. The contract is incentive-laden -- much like Thomas' last year -- and the potential total value is $2.5 million. Like Thomas, Stewart has been hampered by foot problems, but in Stewart's case, the issue has been plantar fasciitis, most recently in his left foot. That limited him to 44 games last season; the same problem in the other foot cost him time during the 2004 season. According to David Forst, the A's assistant GM, Stewart's physical in Florida on Thursday went well, and Marlins team doctor Dan Kanell told the A's that the plantar fasciitis is behind Stewart. Stewart, who turns 33 at the end of the month, has been pain free for three months since going to the Hospital for Special Surgery in New York, where an ultrasound pinpointed the problem. A cortisone shot in the heel calmed things down, Stewart said, and he's had no sign of the injury since. He's running four days a week and working out five days a week. Now he's joining a team whose medical staff defied expectations and kept Thomas on the field. Another possible plus: Stewart will be playing home games on grass for the first time in his career. "That's going to feel good,'' he said. "I've always wanted to, but it seems like for some reason, I was a dome ballplayer.'' Stewart hit .293 last year and has a lifetime average of .299. In 2003, he hit .307 and drove in 73 runs combined for Toronto and Minnesota and finished fourth in the MVP voting. "He's like Jay Payton, but better,'' said Stewart's agent, Greg Genske. "As long as he's healthy, the A's have just upgraded.'' Stewart's playing time is expected to be similar to Payton's (he'll probably just be in left, however) and his presence combined with Nick Swisher's versatility means that new manager Bob Geren will have more opportunity to rest center fielder Mark Kotsay and right fielder Milton Bradley. How that all breaks down will be decided during the spring, Forst said. The A's had little interest in Stewart initially, according to Genske, who said they were focused on another of his clients, Darin Erstad. It was erroneously reported that the A's were one of the teams that had watched Stewart work out in Florida recently; they did not have anyone on hand for that. "It's weird when it came down to it -- Oakland was the one team that nobody saw me,'' Stewart said. As Stewart remained on the market, however, he became more attractive to the bargain-hunting A's. And a year after pulling off a huge steal with Thomas, Oakland might have another. "The good thing is that this team is willing to give a player a chance, with a medical history and everything,'' Stewart said. "The A's were willing to do that for Frank and myself. A lot of teams, when you're injured, are skeptical. I think it's a good gamble.'' "I don't want to draw the exact parallel, but let's hope, like Frank's did, that this works out for both sides,'' Forst said. Stewart will earn an additional $200,000 when he reaches 200 at-bats, and another $100,000 for each of these milestones: 220, 245, 265, 290, 310, 335, 355, 380, 400, 425, 450, 475, 500. He has a standard awards package, except that he would get $200,000 for winning the Comeback Player of the Year award. To make room for Stewart on the 40-man roster, the A's designated outfielder Charles Thomas for assignment. http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c...SPGEDO1HHM1.DTL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out of the Past Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 If Dr. Kanell is correct and the foot problems are behind him then we should have signed him for the $1 million deal the A's gave him. Of course that would mean Loria would pocket $1 million less of revenue sharing and would cut into his '07 profit, say from $25 million to $24 million. This has to rank as one of the worst off-seasons in Marlins history. In '09 it will take about $70 million to keep this team together and Loria will obviously not spent that much. This team's window of opportunity is 2 years, '07 and '08, and we pissed '07 away by not doing anything about the bullpen and CF. Ridivcuklopus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marlins2003 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 The thing is Polo, he's only going to be a part-time player for the A's and he hasn't played CF since 2000 and even then not exclusively. I share your frustration more moves haven't been made but I still think this probably wasn't the right one in any event. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catchoftheday Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 he's still a hell of a hitter remember when he got traded from Toronto to the Twins and he completely sparked that whole team and got them in the playoffs? that was fun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarlinsFan7 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I know I'm going to get chewed up because of this but am I the only one who likes Amezaga? He is one of my favorite marlins. Sure, he could use a little help in hitting, but in the winter league he did great. Who knows what he could do with a year of experience under his belt. Just give him a chance. He contributes a lot to the ball club, with his attitude, charisma, and skill too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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