And Dontrelle Willis continues to make start after start after start..................

 

 

trade him

 

:lol

I still remember alex's rotator cuff.

I hope its nothing too serious.

Oh boy, sounds like a torn labrum. Thanks for the no-hitter, Anibal.

I'm wondering what in that screams torn labrum.

Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the people screaming Tommy John. You can't rule it out.

What people are screaming that?

 

I see one post saying "Hope he won't need TJ surgery just yet," another one alluding to being gone for a long time, and about 700 posts informing everybody that Tommy John = elbow.

Oh boy, sounds like a torn labrum. Thanks for the no-hitter, Anibal.

I'm wondering what in that screams torn labrum.

Makes a hell of a lot more sense than the people screaming Tommy John. You can't rule it out.

What people are screaming that?

 

I see one post saying "Hope he won't need TJ surgery just yet," another one alluding to being gone for a long time, and about 700 posts informing everybody that Tommy John = elbow.

 

Thus following the usual pattern of the board, where a post of 2 pages has about 3 posts that have new or relevant information.

we haven't had all our starters this whole year!!!

Im probably more upset at the fact that he will be set back than any chance of something like a torn labrem.

Just read in Wed's PBP something on this. He was to be examined by team physicians again Tuesday night, then sent to Dr Andrews next week.

Now for a quote from the paper :

 

"Sanchez-who was 10-3 as a rookie last season, which included a no-hitter against Arizona- was Florida's #3 starter when the season opened. But he was demoted to Class AAA Albuquerque on May 4.

He went to the minor league disabled list a few days later, an issue Sanchez was unhappy about since it may cost him a chance to gain major league service time. A source said the player's union is looking into the matter."

 

Discussion part :

This guy never stated he was injured when he was with the Marlins. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I'm believing he was and just never said anything. But if a guy dosen't let the staff know he is hurting they can't know. There may be signs but if he says he isn't hurting they have to go by that. Period. Then just before his first start at AAA he says his shoulder hurts and they immediately put him on the DL, which they should. Protect the parent team's investment, and all that. I don't see where he has a complaint other than with himself and/or his agent.

My reasoning :

 

Our history says if he would have said something here we would have had him skip a start, then put him on the 15 day DL(if needed), and then if it progressed to needing season ending surgery we would have put him on the 60 day. So IF he was hurting and decided to do it his way then he has to suffer the consequences and the results of doing it his way. Him, his agent, and the players union don't have a leg to stand on in this one. Bad decision making on his part and the Marlins did nothing wrong.

Of course this is all IF he has season ending surgery. Many players get sent to the good doc in Birmingham just as a precautionary check up and second opinion of a noted expert in the field. I'm hoping for the best and bracing for the worst. And if it is surgery then I am hoping alot of progress has been made with that surgery since the Alex days. That didn't turn out so well. Of course Alex was always a bit over weight and a little more advanced in years than Anibal.

Discussion part :

This guy never stated he was injured when he was with the Marlins. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I'm believing he was and just never said anything. But if a guy dosen't let the staff know he is hurting they can't know. There may be signs but if he says he isn't hurting they have to go by that. Period. Then just before his first start at AAA he says his shoulder hurts and they immediately put him on the DL, which they should. Protect the parent team's investment, and all that. I don't see where he has a complaint other than with himself and/or his agent.

I never saw details about the timing of his injury in the local papers but in the Venezuealn papers he said his arm began bothering him in the 3rd game of the season vs the Astros but he said nothing because he thought it was normal given that he hadn't thrown much during the winter. He said the pain became unbearable during his last game vs the Mets. He said that by the time he went to talk to Fredi about the pain the decision was already made to send him down to AAA.

Discussion part :

This guy never stated he was injured when he was with the Marlins. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. I'm believing he was and just never said anything. But if a guy dosen't let the staff know he is hurting they can't know. There may be signs but if he says he isn't hurting they have to go by that. Period. Then just before his first start at AAA he says his shoulder hurts and they immediately put him on the DL, which they should. Protect the parent team's investment, and all that. I don't see where he has a complaint other than with himself and/or his agent.

I never saw details about the timing of his injury in the local papers but in the Venezuealn papers he said his arm began bothering him in the 3rd game of the season vs the Astros but he said nothing because he thought it was normal given that he hadn't thrown much during the winter. He said the pain became unbearable during his last game vs the Mets. He said that by the time he went to talk to Fredi about the pain the decision was already made to send him down to AAA.

 

Very well could be or it may just be the story now. We may never know. But that's not the way it has been reported every place I read about it. It has always said he was mum about it right up until he was supposed to start at AAA.

Just read in Wed's PBP something on this. He was to be examined by team physicians again Tuesday night, then sent to Dr Andrews next week.

Now for a quote from the paper :

 

"Sanchez-who was 10-3 as a rookie last season, which included a no-hitter against Arizona- was Florida's #3 starter when the season opened. But he was demoted to Class AAA Albuquerque on May 4.

He went to the minor league disabled list a few days later, an issue Sanchez was unhappy about since it may cost him a chance to gain major league service time. A source said the player's union is looking into the matter."

 

I read this in the Herald today:

 

SANCHEZ AILING

 

On June 25 of last season, rookie right-hander Anibal Sanchez made his major-league debut, defeating the New York Yankees in the Bronx. Now, almost one year later, Sanchez is ailing.

 

The 23-year-old pitcher was scheduled to have his sore right shoulder examined Tuesday night by the Marlins' medical staff.

 

Sanchez, who pitched a no-hitter against the Diamondbacks last September and finished the season with a 10-3 record, got off to a slow start this season and was sent down to Triple A Albuquerque (N.M.).

 

But he never threw a pitch for the Isotopes, complaining of shoulder soreness soon after the demotion.

 

Members of the Marlins coaching staff have said Sanchez, who was positioned third in line in the rotation out of spring training and made six starts, never complained of any physical problems to them.

 

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

Miami Herald

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

 

What the hell are they going to investigate???

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

 

What the hell are they going to investigate???

 

Whether this season will count towards Anibal's major league service since he is in the minor league DL. This factors in for the time left till arbitration and free agency.

ifwe lose sanchez because he grows unhappy with the organization im going to be pissed.

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

 

What the hell are they going to investigate???

 

Whether this season will count towards Anibal's major league service since he is in the minor league DL. This factors in for the time left till arbitration and free agency.

 

 

i think he cares more about the fact that if he is on the major league DL he gets paid major league money.. rather than his minor league salary. He is probably losing over 250k should he be in the minors dl for the rest of the year

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

 

What the hell are they going to investigate???

 

Whether this season will count towards Anibal's major league service since he is in the minor league DL. This factors in for the time left till arbitration and free agency.

 

 

i think he cares more about the fact that if he is on the major league DL he gets paid major league money.. rather than his minor league salary. He is probably losing over 250k should he be in the minors dl for the rest of the year

 

The MLBPA would only investigate if the former is suspected, that the Marlins are tampering with his service time clock.

But the 23-year-old pitcher was said to be unhappy with the demotion in early May, and, though a grievance has not been filed, a spokesman for the Major League Baseball Players Association said the union is ''investigating'' the issue for the pitcher.

 

 

What the hell are they going to investigate???

 

Whether this season will count towards Anibal's major league service since he is in the minor league DL. This factors in for the time left till arbitration and free agency.

 

 

i think he cares more about the fact that if he is on the major league DL he gets paid major league money.. rather than his minor league salary. He is probably losing over 250k should he be in the minors dl for the rest of the year

 

The MLBPA would only investigate if the former is suspected, that the Marlins are tampering with his service time clock.

 

Can't see how the Marlins are at fault here at all. Doubt it goes any further than this. If he kept his mouth shut it's his fault. Seeing he waited a few more days before he even said anything to the minor league staff only strengthens the Marlins case. And the way the Marlins have handled previously injured pitchers. Take those two things alone into consideration and that excuse of "Well I was going to tell them but they had already sent me down" is so childish an excuse as to be laughable. His loss, nobody's gain, IMO.

 

According to the Marlins web site they are quoting an unnamed MLBPA source as saying it is a nerve problem that may require surgery. So IMO it is best to let the expert have a close look at it. And that wouldn't be nearly as bad as Alex's injury back in '97.