July 5, 200719 yr from floridamarlins.com: Ramirez's revenge? Blasting a big two-run home run off Greg Maddux on Tuesday night not only gave the Marlins a big boost in their comeback win over the Padres, it also was a measure of payback for Hanley Ramirez. In his 2006 National League Rookie of the Year season, Ramirez had a single overturned to an error because Maddux spent months challenging the official scorer's ruling. On May 24, 2006, the Marlins beat the Cubs 9-3. Maddux, then with Chicago, had the game slip away from him when Florida scored five runs in the fifth inning to grab a 6-3 win at the time. The inning was kept alive because Ramirez hustled for what was ruled a single at the time after Chicago shortstop Ronny Cedeno made a bad throw. Typically, an official scorer has 24 hours to make the change. But after reviewing the tape numerous times, official scorer Ron Jernik stood by his ruling of base hit. Maddux, however, contended it should have been an error by Cedeno. And the veteran pitcher kept protesting for months. He went to the league to review the call. Eventually Jernik overturned Ramirez's single, which meant Maddux was charged with just one earned run (instead of six) that day. By taking the single away, Ramirez ended up batting .292 on the season, which tied him with Jeff Conine for the highest batting average ever by a Marlins rookie. But if his single stood against Maddux, Ramirez would have ended up batting .294. While Maddux went through the proper channels, it is extremely rare to have a play overturned a few months later.
July 5, 200719 yr Author sucks that it robbed Hanley of setting the BA record for a Marlins rookie... :confused
July 5, 200719 yr Author Maybe Hanley should challenge that some of his throwing errors were actually missed catch errors by the first baseman. Then maybe he would have had a better chance of making the all-star game.
July 6, 200719 yr very old news (not that you posted, but that Maddux had it corrected) True, but in context, it was nice to see him walk out there and belt one against him.
July 6, 200719 yr That just makes me want to punch Maddux in the face...with his glasses on, of course.
July 6, 200719 yr What a freakin' crybaby! Why the heck would he care if it was a hit or an error? He still lost the stupid game.
July 6, 200719 yr What a freakin' crybaby! Why the heck would he care if it was a hit or an error? He still lost the stupid game. 5er was the difference...Padding his stats
July 6, 200719 yr What a freakin' crybaby! Why the heck would he care if it was a hit or an error? He still lost the stupid game. he doesn't want his ERA to go up. But who gives a damn about a teammates fielding percentage. :|
July 6, 200719 yr I bet Cedeno loved his teammate arguing that he should be given an error. I was thinking the same thing.
July 6, 200719 yr Maddux is a wierd guy. I've heard of him taking a dump in the showers before his starts on the road or crapping between the matress and box-springs of hotel beds on getaway day. He's nuts way beyond pushing for a scoring change.
July 6, 200719 yr Maddux is a wierd guy. I've heard of him taking a dump in the showers before his starts on the road or crapping between the matress and box-springs of hotel beds on getaway day. He's nuts way beyond pushing for a scoring change. I don't know if there is any truth to this, but it was pretty funny.
July 6, 200719 yr Maddux is a wierd guy. I've heard of him taking a dump in the showers before his starts on the road or crapping between the matress and box-springs of hotel beds on getaway day. He's nuts way beyond pushing for a scoring change. I always heard he liked to piss on rookies who just came up with the team. He would do it in the showers.
July 6, 200719 yr My respect for Maddux has dropped quite a bit. If the other two claims in this thread are also true, I have no respect for the guy anymore. However, Hanley keeps getting more awesome and the legend continues to grow...
July 6, 200719 yr My respect for Maddux has dropped quite a bit. If the other two claims in this thread are also true, I have no respect for the guy anymore. However, Hanley keeps getting more awesome and the legend continues to grow... Why would you respect Hanley? He plays with a serious lack of heart. He's a very self centered ball-player.
July 6, 200719 yr My respect for Maddux has dropped quite a bit. If the other two claims in this thread are also true, I have no respect for the guy anymore. However, Hanley keeps getting more awesome and the legend continues to grow... Why would you respect Hanley? He plays with a serious lack of heart. He's a very self centered ball-player. get that sh*t out of here
July 6, 200719 yr My respect for Maddux has dropped quite a bit. If the other two claims in this thread are also true, I have no respect for the guy anymore. However, Hanley keeps getting more awesome and the legend continues to grow... Why would you respect Hanley? He plays with a serious lack of heart. He's a very self centered ball-player. get that sh*t out of here Damn Ramp, now i'm starting to lose respect for you. Are you serious?
July 6, 200719 yr My respect for Maddux has dropped quite a bit. If the other two claims in this thread are also true, I have no respect for the guy anymore. However, Hanley keeps getting more awesome and the legend continues to grow... Why would you respect Hanley? He plays with a serious lack of heart. He's a very self centered ball-player. get that sh*t out of here Damn Ramp, now i'm starting to lose respect for you. Are you serious? Dead serious. Lack of heart please. Then again, it's all opinion and you have a right to have yours
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