November 8, 200719 yr The Phillies obviously just obtained Lidge from houston. IF the Marlins HAD to trade D-train to Philadelphia, What would you guys take... Myers is said to be available... I know guys would like a young cheap promising catcher as well as a young affordable outfielder. My thought would be Carlos Carassco (Minor League Pitcher, Who may be soon rdy for the Bigs) Jaramillo (Minor League Catcher, Close to being MLB rdy-Probably is on the Marlins) Brett Myers (signed reasonably for the next 2 years) and Jason Werth (Arb Elligable) ---------- Maybe Throw in Gregg Dobbs, if 3rd Base is Vacant (and If necessary) For D-Train, who is Due a lot of money soon and Mitre (who I like because he is a sinker ball pitcher) To me, we take more of the risk because D-Train has kind of been ass in the past 2 seasons. You guys get a proven Big league starter/ closer (I also am aware you guys dont think highly of him) and several young players including pitcher catcher and OF that fits the current salary of the marlins. I'm not interested in starting a flame war, I just though that given the marlins Current salary restrictions, A move like this could work for both teams. The Phillies now, and the Marlins perhaps in the next season or 3.... Please just looking for Baseball talk, No insults.
November 8, 200719 yr Please just looking for Baseball talk, No insults. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
November 8, 200719 yr I think when you put that verbal ducking in there at the end you pretty much know it isn't a good trade idea.
November 8, 200719 yr Jaramillo is garbage Werth and Dobbs are nice fill ins, but meaningless to us Carrasco is a nice arm, but nothing wonderful and while I like Myers, he probably makes too much for us anyway
November 8, 200719 yr Author Jaramillo is garbage Werth and Dobbs are nice fill ins, but meaningless to us Carrasco is a nice arm, but nothing wonderful and while I like Myers, he probably makes too much for us anyway Thanks for your honest opinion.
November 8, 200719 yr The Phillies obviously just obtained Lidge from houston. IF the Marlins HAD to trade D-train to Philadelphia, What would you guys take... Myers is said to be available... I know guys would like a young cheap promising catcher as well as a young affordable outfielder. My thought would be Carlos Carassco (Minor League Pitcher, Who may be soon rdy for the Bigs) Jaramillo (Minor League Catcher, Close to being MLB rdy-Probably is on the Marlins) Brett Myers (signed reasonably for the next 2 years) and Jason Werth (Arb Elligable) ---------- Maybe Throw in Gregg Dobbs, if 3rd Base is Vacant (and If necessary) For D-Train, who is Due a lot of money soon and Mitre (who I like because he is a sinker ball pitcher) To me, we take more of the risk because D-Train has kind of been ass in the past 2 seasons. You guys get a proven Big league starter/ closer (I also am aware you guys dont think highly of him) and several young players including pitcher catcher and OF that fits the current salary of the marlins. I'm not interested in starting a flame war, I just though that given the marlins Current salary restrictions, A move like this could work for both teams. The Phillies now, and the Marlins perhaps in the next season or 3.... Please just looking for Baseball talk, No insults. i wouldnt see the marlins dealing cabrera to anyone in division
November 8, 200719 yr The Phillies obviously just obtained Lidge from houston. IF the Marlins HAD to trade D-train to Philadelphia, What would you guys take... Myers is said to be available... I know guys would like a young cheap promising catcher as well as a young affordable outfielder. My thought would be Carlos Carassco (Minor League Pitcher, Who may be soon rdy for the Bigs) Jaramillo (Minor League Catcher, Close to being MLB rdy-Probably is on the Marlins) Brett Myers (signed reasonably for the next 2 years) and Jason Werth (Arb Elligable) ---------- Maybe Throw in Gregg Dobbs, if 3rd Base is Vacant (and If necessary) For D-Train, who is Due a lot of money soon and Mitre (who I like because he is a sinker ball pitcher) To me, we take more of the risk because D-Train has kind of been ass in the past 2 seasons. You guys get a proven Big league starter/ closer (I also am aware you guys dont think highly of him) and several young players including pitcher catcher and OF that fits the current salary of the marlins. I'm not interested in starting a flame war, I just though that given the marlins Current salary restrictions, A move like this could work for both teams. The Phillies now, and the Marlins perhaps in the next season or 3.... Please just looking for Baseball talk, No insults. i wouldnt see the marlins dealing cabrera to anyone in division especially the phillies
November 8, 200719 yr The Phillies obviously just obtained Lidge from houston. IF the Marlins HAD to trade D-train to Philadelphia, What would you guys take... Myers is said to be available... I know guys would like a young cheap promising catcher as well as a young affordable outfielder. My thought would be Carlos Carassco (Minor League Pitcher, Who may be soon rdy for the Bigs) Jaramillo (Minor League Catcher, Close to being MLB rdy-Probably is on the Marlins) Brett Myers (signed reasonably for the next 2 years) and Jason Werth (Arb Elligable) ---------- Maybe Throw in Gregg Dobbs, if 3rd Base is Vacant (and If necessary) For D-Train, who is Due a lot of money soon and Mitre (who I like because he is a sinker ball pitcher) To me, we take more of the risk because D-Train has kind of been ass in the past 2 seasons. You guys get a proven Big league starter/ closer (I also am aware you guys dont think highly of him) and several young players including pitcher catcher and OF that fits the current salary of the marlins. I'm not interested in starting a flame war, I just though that given the marlins Current salary restrictions, A move like this could work for both teams. The Phillies now, and the Marlins perhaps in the next season or 3.... Please just looking for Baseball talk, No insults. i wouldnt see the marlins dealing cabrera to anyone in division especially the phillies He said Willis and Mitre.
November 8, 200719 yr First and foremost, I'd just like to say that it is NOT in the Fish' best interest to intratrade... that being said, it didn't stop them in '05.
November 8, 200719 yr Author Never Said Miggy. We don't have a spot for him anyway. If he was at 3rd and Burrell in left that gives the whole left side of the ballpark to hitters. 2 huge defensive liabilities. If we had 1st base open for him, I'd want him though.
November 8, 200719 yr The Marlins are looking for starting pitching. That means they're NOT looking to trade away their two best starters. Pass. Next?
November 9, 200719 yr I just don't see that as a Beinfest trade, the prospects are marginal at best and while there is quantity of players the quality is meh BTW Myers makes 5 million a year...yeah that would happen!
November 9, 200719 yr Why would we make a trade with the Phillies. I know weve done some with the Mutts, but still, never again trade with division rivals
November 9, 200719 yr The Marlins are looking for starting pitching. That means they're NOT looking to trade away their two best starters. Pass. Next? Actually, the Marlins are looking for starting pitching because their "best" (and I use that term loosely) two starters aren't good.
November 9, 200719 yr We dont want no stinkin wife beater on our team Yea, instead we employ cop beaters...
November 9, 200719 yr We dont want no stinkin wife beater on our team Yea, instead we employ cop beaters... technically Olsen got beat up....
November 9, 200719 yr Author :lol After the season Wes Helms had at the plate you have zero reason to reject Cabrera for his defense. Cabrera could hit 50 home runs in that park. I think you are missing the point. The phillies need pitching, That is why I brought up the discussion. I dont feel the Phillies NEED the extra bat in the lineup, since they already score enough runs. I also feel that Miggy is destined to play 1st base or DH. I know you guys love him and he is a great hitter, but it doesnt take an expert to see he is terrible at fielding 3rd anymore. He is better suited to go to a team who needs a DH, or 1st. The phillies aren't going to waste prospects or money on a guy who does something the lineup doesnt need. They need more Defense at the hot corner and above average bat. I cant imagine Miggy out there with moyer on the mound facing right handed batters, It'd be a nightmare. I'm not trying to be an ass, But anyone can see that the Marlins Defense was the worst in the NL. You have an excellent batter in Miggy, as well as Hanley.. And above average hitter with Ugla at second. The problem is non of them can play a lick of Defense. IF I were in charge of the Marlins... Id sign Miggy long term and move him over to 1st base. I'd try and convert Hanley into the new CF you guys are looking for. Get Ugs some serious work in the off season and try and keep him at second. I feel like Willingham is a nice player, so I'd keep him at LF I'd take a look and see who is cheap and has a decent glove at 3rd base.-- Maybe Boone to re-sign and play 3rd? I dont know I didnt see much of him last year. Then go out and try and get a shortstop who is not a defensive liability in the field. (I think a guy like abraham nunez who is a Vac with his glove) could fit in nicely. the more ABs he gets the better hitter he is. ---this Idea is in the context that I think your offense Is good enough, If you had better defense and pitching.---- but whatever, I'm sure you guys disagree :-P
November 9, 200719 yr :lol After the season Wes Helms had at the plate you have zero reason to reject Cabrera for his defense. Cabrera could hit 50 home runs in that park. I think you are missing the point. The phillies need pitching, That is why I brought up the discussion. I dont feel the Phillies NEED the extra bat in the lineup, since they already score enough runs. I also feel that Miggy is destined to play 1st base or DH. I know you guys love him and he is a great hitter, but it doesnt take an expert to see he is terrible at fielding 3rd anymore. He is better suited to go to a team who needs a DH, or 1st. The phillies aren't going to waste prospects or money on a guy who does something the lineup doesnt need. They need more Defense at the hot corner and above average bat. I cant imagine Miggy out there with moyer on the mound facing right handed batters, It'd be a nightmare. I'm not trying to be an ass, But anyone can see that the Marlins Defense was the worst in the NL. You have an excellent batter in Miggy, as well as Hanley.. And above average hitter with Ugla at second. The problem is non of them can play a lick of Defense. IF I were in charge of the Marlins... Id sign Miggy long term and move him over to 1st base. I'd try and convert Hanley into the new CF you guys are looking for. Get Ugs some serious work in the off season and try and keep him at second. I feel like Willingham is a nice player, so I'd keep him at RF I'd take a look and see who is cheap and has a decent glove at 3rd base.-- Maybe Boone to re-sign and play 3rd? I dont know I didnt see much of him last year. Then go out and try and get a shortstop who is not a defensive liability in the field. (I think a guy like abraham nunez who is a Vac with his glove) could fit in nicely. the more ABs he gets the better hitter he is. but whatever, I'm sure you guys disagree :-P first willingham plays LF not right. second aaron boone is not a full time starter anymore...he just doesnt hit enough. third hanley is a special player and will develop into a better SS than nunez could ever be. plus the answer to 3B when cabrera is traded and he will...it should come from the dodgers in the form of andy laroche... so in short im glad ur not the marlins gm..but we all are entitled to our own opinions
November 9, 200719 yr Author :lol After the season Wes Helms had at the plate you have zero reason to reject Cabrera for his defense. Cabrera could hit 50 home runs in that park. I think you are missing the point. The phillies need pitching, That is why I brought up the discussion. I dont feel the Phillies NEED the extra bat in the lineup, since they already score enough runs. I also feel that Miggy is destined to play 1st base or DH. I know you guys love him and he is a great hitter, but it doesnt take an expert to see he is terrible at fielding 3rd anymore. He is better suited to go to a team who needs a DH, or 1st. The phillies aren't going to waste prospects or money on a guy who does something the lineup doesnt need. They need more Defense at the hot corner and above average bat. I cant imagine Miggy out there with moyer on the mound facing right handed batters, It'd be a nightmare. I'm not trying to be an ass, But anyone can see that the Marlins Defense was the worst in the NL. You have an excellent batter in Miggy, as well as Hanley.. And above average hitter with Ugla at second. The problem is non of them can play a lick of Defense. IF I were in charge of the Marlins... Id sign Miggy long term and move him over to 1st base. I'd try and convert Hanley into the new CF you guys are looking for. Get Ugs some serious work in the off season and try and keep him at second. I feel like Willingham is a nice player, so I'd keep him at RF I'd take a look and see who is cheap and has a decent glove at 3rd base.-- Maybe Boone to re-sign and play 3rd? I dont know I didnt see much of him last year. Then go out and try and get a shortstop who is not a defensive liability in the field. (I think a guy like abraham nunez who is a Vac with his glove) could fit in nicely. the more ABs he gets the better hitter he is. but whatever, I'm sure you guys disagree :-P first willingham plays LF not right. second aaron boone is not a full time starter anymore...he just doesnt hit enough. third hanley is a special player and will develop into a better SS than nunez could ever be. plus the answer to 3B when cabrera is traded and he will...it should come from the dodgers in the form of andy laroche... so in short im glad ur not the marlins gm..but we all are entitled to our own opinions sorry for the Typo I meant LF.
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