October 26, 200323 yr I keep wondering why everyone's forgeting about Borland... Where is Borland? I have no idea. I'm just saying, when he was on the Marlins this season, he was awesome. here we go again Are you going to sit here and tell me that when Toby was briefly in the major leagues with the marlins for this season, he was not, in fact, awesome?
October 26, 200323 yr 9 2/3 innings? fine, he was a HOFer happy? :lol I was speaking off the top of my head. I thought he had pitched more than that. I knew his ERA was like 1.00 something, but other than that I wasn't aware of his other numbers.
October 26, 200323 yr I think someone who will come in big for this bullpen next year will be...gulp...Willis.
October 26, 200323 yr Your List: Urbina - Gone, Could even end up on Pattison. Colon - Does this really need any explanation Renteria - In honor of The Season Premeire of That 70's show coming up... Dumbass Raffy - WHY!? Raffy is about as valuable as Griffey for that price Castillo -- It's possible he'll be back but be quiet about all this loyalty talk. Players want to get paid. Harris -- Your going to pay A Million Dollars for A PH? H'worth -- He can get more time and money elsewhere.
October 26, 200323 yr Urbina - Gone He has just as much a chance of staying as anyone else. I don't see why he is "gone."
October 26, 200323 yr Urbina - Gone He has just as much a chance of staying as anyone else. I don't see why he is "gone." Had a monster year meaning a bigger payday and a fleet of big pocket teams in need of a stable closer(Phillies, Red Sox etc). Also since when has Ugy shown in recent times that he wants to settle down?
October 26, 200323 yr Also since when has Ugy shown in recent times that he wants to settle down? When was the last time he won a world championship?
October 26, 200323 yr Pierre - CF Castillo - 2B Pudge - C Cabrera - RF Palmeiro - 1B Lowell - 3B Conine - LF Renteria - SS SP - Beckett , Colon, Burnett , Willis , Penny Bullpen - Pavano , Urbina , Looper , Helling , Bump , Fox , Redman , Tejera PH - Harris , Castro , H'Worth , Mordi Wow, considering you just won a world title, I would expect a lot more optimism than that. I mean after all, that lineup would barely put the club at a 150 million dollar payroll. :cool
October 26, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody.
October 26, 200323 yr I mean after all, that lineup would barely put the club at a 150 million dollar payroll. :cool Isn't it funny that if we fielded that team, it would still be $30 Million shy of this years Yankees? :lol
October 26, 200323 yr Pierre - CF Castillo - 2B Pudge - C Cabrera - RF Palmeiro - 1B Lowell - 3B Conine - LF Renteria - SS SP - Beckett , Colon, Burnett , Willis , Penny Bullpen - Pavano , Urbina , Looper , Helling , Bump , Fox , Redman , Tejera PH - Harris , Castro , H'Worth , Mordi Wow, considering you just won a world title, I would expect a lot more optimism than that. I mean after all, that lineup would barely put the club at a 150 million dollar payroll. :cool I'm not a marlins fan
October 26, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody. Kieth Foulke or Robb Nen anyone?
October 26, 200323 yr Pierre - CF Castillo - 2B Pudge - C Cabrera - RF Palmeiro - 1B Lowell - 3B Conine - LF Renteria - SS SP - Beckett , Colon, Burnett , Willis , Penny Bullpen - Pavano , Urbina , Looper , Helling , Bump , Fox , Redman , Tejera PH - Harris , Castro , H'Worth , Mordi Wow, considering you just won a world title, I would expect a lot more optimism than that. I mean after all, that lineup would barely put the club at a 150 million dollar payroll. :cool I'm not a marlins fan no s*** sherlock
October 26, 200323 yr We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. Yea, he only led the AL in saves the first half of the year, and was arguably the best closer in the second half of 2003 (besides Gagne, of course).
October 27, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody. Kieth Foulke or Robb Nen anyone? I really believe that the Giants are going to deal Nen. Sabean is not in a good mood and is rebuilding somewhat. Nen will be leverage for him to get a right fielder possibly or first basemen. He could trade Snow, go after Lee and use Nen to get Lee. Snow could be going to a certain NY team :whistle
October 27, 200323 yr We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. Yea, he only led the AL in saves the first half of the year, and was arguably the best closer in the second half of 2003 (besides Gagne, of course). Urbina had all those stats, but he didn't command all the time and got heated up at the umpires. He wasn't shutting people down.
October 27, 200323 yr When was the last time he won a world championship? Oh I'm sorry, Ugy lives in a land of wonder and happiness. He does not care about The Money that's why he is going to ask for The Minimum Salary so he can stay with The Marlins. Josh you seem to know something that all The Experts don't, If Ugy cared so much about winning, why then would did he go To The Texas Rangers, did he know something about that team that we didn't?
October 27, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody. Kieth Foulke or Robb Nen anyone? AJ Burnett anyone? (For first half, of course) I think we can get Nen if we deal Lee. We can also maybe get a young arm back, but they dealt Ainsworth and Moss already :confused
October 27, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody. Kieth Foulke or Robb Nen anyone? I really believe that the Giants are going to deal Nen. Sabean is not in a good mood and is rebuilding somewhat. Nen will be leverage for him to get a right fielder possibly or first basemen. He could trade Snow, go after Lee and use Nen to get Lee. Snow could be going to a certain NY team :whistle isnt Nen a free agent? edit: he is a potential free agent, if he wants he can terminate his deal, if not, he will still be a Giant
October 27, 200323 yr I want Uggy gone. I think he isn't worth the money. We need to get a big time closer. Uggy has not proven to be effective for us as we had hoped. We all wanted a shutdown, good night closer and he didn't do that. He is also too moody. Kieth Foulke or Robb Nen anyone? AJ Burnett anyone? dont even joke
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