What grades would you guys give for the everyday position players and then the starting pitchers and relievers?

What grades would you guys give for the everyday position players and then the starting pitchers and relievers?

 

This is too vague, try to set up some sort of a system like give us an example... for example.

 

Position Players

Uggla: A- (Great all around, would like to see lower strikeout total, solid defense)

Ramirez: A- (Great all around player, defense can improve)

Cantu: B (Has really been a pleasant surprise, sured up his defense)

Hermida: C- (um, he can do way better, pretty good in right field)

Ross: B (Gold Glove CF imo, out of nowhere and he's on quite a hit streak right now too)

Jacobs: C (his defense is iffy at times, and he has alot of strikeouts, but he got a little bit better towards the end of the first half and home run power)

Treanor: C- (He's injured, an average catcher nothing great, nothing awful)

 

Pitchers

Nolasco: A (Very solid has some nasty pitches has had the best control of the starters thus far)

Olsen: B (Good, had some mishaps but many games he pitched well in just didn't get enough run support.)

Miller: C (Started out pretty good, had severe control issues late in the first half, can't get out of the early innings)

Tucker: B-/C+ (Performed pretty well being called up and put into the starting roll so fast, I think he belongs in the pen though)

Hendrickson: C-/D+ (Serves up way too many BP balls and has control issues at times)

Badenhop: C- (Couldn't get it done, had a few good games)

 

Volstad is going to be an A pitcher, glad we have him.

Johnson is a solid B.

 

Relief (What relief?)

Waechter: B+ (The only one in the bullpen that I can say had a pretty solid first half, good stuff and he gets outs)

Kensing: C (Would be solid one outing and awful the next)

De La Cruz: F (awful all around, needs to work on everything)

J. Miller: D (Control issues)

Tankersley: D (Surprisingly bad, after a solid later half last year)

Lindstrom: B- (Can be a lights out pitcher if he can learn to get a second pitch down besides his 100+ fast ball, + improve control)

Nelson: B- (Up and down, started off great, had a few mishaps)

Pinto: C+ (If he is focused (rare) he can be a solid pitcher had some issues in the first half with control and putting men on base)

Gregg: C (He can be better, showed glimpses of that towards the end of the first half)

SP:

 

JJ: B+

Olsen: A

Miller: C

Nolasco: A

Hendrickson: D

Volstad: A

Tucker: B-

 

RP:

 

Gregg: B

Pinto: A

Lindstrom: B

Nelson: B

Miller: B

 

C:

 

Treanor: B+

Baker: B+

Hoover: F

Rabelo: C

 

1B:

 

Jacobs: B+

 

2B:

 

Uggla: A+++

Andino: B

 

SS:

 

Ramirez: A+++

 

3B:

 

Cantu: B+

Helms: B

 

LF:

 

Willingham: B+

Gonzalez: B

 

CF:

 

Ross: A

Amezaga: B

 

RF:

 

Hermida: C+

What grades would you guys give for the everyday position players and then the starting pitchers and relievers?

 

This is too vague, try to set up some sort of a system like give us an example... for example.

 

Uggla: A- (Great all around, lower strikeout total, solid defense)

Ramirez: A- (Great all around player, defense can improve)

Cantu: B (Has really been a pleasant surprise, sured up his defense)

Hermida: C- (um, he can do way better, pretty good in right field)

Ross: B (Gold Glove CF imo, out of nowhere and he's on quite a hit streak right now.)

Jacobs: C (his defense is iffy at times, and he has alot of strikeouts, but he got a little bit better towards the end of the first half and home run power.)

Treanor: C- (He's injured, an average catcher nothing great, nothing awful)

Take away the ridiculous series in Colorado and he has three July hits.

I'll be more broad for my categories.

 

Starting Pitching: C+ It could be better. It should be better with the addidition of Josh Johnson and Chris Volstad. Nolasco and Olsen have really held the rotation together.

 

Relief Pitching: C They were good, then bad and now look good again. They need more consistency to get a better grade. The fact that we have had so many people sent up and down does not help.

 

Starting Lineup: A- The power numbers are great and the hitters have won us a lot of games. Hanley and Uggla are All-Stars and guys like Cantu, Gonzalez, and Ross have been better than expected. Keep it up please.

 

Bench: A This has been a strength. We have guys that are good off the bench and good when they start every so often. Amezaga is the key here. He needs to keep unleashing himself.

 

Defense: D It's been below average. We have the most errors. We make some good defensive plays but not enough to save this grade. We don't need to be perfect, but we must improve this area.

Jacobs: C-

Uggla: B+

Hanley: A

Cantu: B+

Treanor/Rabelo: D

Hermida: C

Ross: C+

Hammerham: B

Gonzo: C+

Olsen: B+

Nolaso: B+

Miller: D+

Hendrickson: D+

Gregg: C

Jorge Julio: A+

Jacobs: C-

Uggla: B+

Hanley: A

Cantu: B+

Treanor/Rabelo: D

Hermida: C

Ross: C+

Hammerham: B

Gonzo: C+

Olsen: B+

Nolaso: B+

Miller: D+

Hendrickson: D+

Gregg: C

Jorge Julio: A+

 

 

:banghead

 

lmfao :lol

C: Treanor: B-, Rabelo C-, Baker A, Hoover: C-

 

1B: Jacobs: B+

 

2B: Uggla: A+, Andino: B+

 

SS: Ramirez: A+, Amezaga: B+

 

3B: Cantu: A-, Helms: C+

 

RF: Hermida: C+

 

CF: Ross: A

 

LF: Willingham: B+, Gonzalez: B+

 

SP: Nolasco: A+, Olsen: B+, A.Miller: C-, Volstad: A+, Tucker: C, Johnson: A, Hendrickson: C

 

RP: Gregg: A-, Waechter: A-, Pinto: B, Lindstrom: C-, Kensing: D, Nelson: A-, J.Miller: B-

C: Treanor: D-

1B: Jacobs: D+

2B: Uggla: A

SS: Ramirez: A

3B: Cantu: B

LF: Willingham: B, Gonzalez: C

CF: Ross: B+

RF: Hermida: D+

SP: Nolasco: B+, Olsen: B+, Miller: F, Hendrickson: F

Cheap plug: You can check out my first-half grades (for the position players) in the editorial section of this site. Here's the link:

 

http://www.marlinbaseball.com/marlins-first-half-grades/

Jacobs- C

Helms- C-

Uggla- A-

Ramirez- A

Cantu- B+

Hermida- C-

Gonzo- C+

Amezaga- B

Ross- B-

Hammer- B+

 

Olsen- A

Nolasco- A

Hendrickson- D-

Miller- F

Badenhop- F

JJ- B+

Volstad- A

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

 

A+ He is going to win the Manager of the Year award

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

 

D-

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

 

A+ He is going to win the Manager of the Year award

 

 

are you being sarcastic? i cant tell.

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

 

D-

 

:blink:

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

 

A+ He is going to win the Manager of the Year award

 

 

are you being sarcastic? i cant tell.

 

 

lol no if we make the playoffs he will

Starting Pitching: C- Very messy beyond Nolasco and Olsen. Things are looking up with the success of Volstad, the return of Johnson, and the impending return of Sanchez.

 

Relief Pitching: C- Really messy except for Nelson, Gregg (usually), and Pinto.

 

Starting Lineup: A- The best part about this team. Except for the catcher slot and Jacobs, this lineup has been one of the most effective in baseball so far.

 

Bench: B Helms and Gonzalez alone are HUGE assets to this team. With Amezaga able to play the rest of the infield, we have a stronger than normal bench.

 

Defense: F Clearly the worst aspect of this team. Sometimes it feels like I'm watching a little league game out there. Badly needs improvement.

This team has done very well overall, except for the starting pitching and defense. The defense will not improve too much this year - that's something that takes some time. The starting pitching may improve, because we will have a full second half of Nolasco, JJ will be around, and Sanchez may return soon. The starting pitching can be slightly above average in the second half. If that happens and our offense and bullpen both remain as strong as they are right now, I think we'll finish with 85+ wins and will be in the hunt for the playoffs throughout.

What grade would you give Fredi Gonzalez?

 

Maybe a B-, I just don't like how he manages a ballclub. For one he is way to passive with the umpires and his pitchers. Also I don't like how he assembles the lineups. For example in LA, one night after John Baker had a very good game (hit his 1st major league homer), Fredi becnhes him for Hoover who stinks up the place.

The team has done better than I expected (a season with 90+ lost games)

 

Marlins overall: A- (fun to watch. You don't know what to get. I'm still wondering how they could win so many games without pitching. Very frustrating sometimes)

 

Starting Pitching: C (the Marlins have two starters: Nolasco A and Olsen B+ . They would need five.)

 

Relief Pitching: B- (there were times when they were great but they never knew if they were still up or down. The frontoffice is busy in search for cheap solutions like Julio and Mota)

 

Starting Lineup: A- (the stadium has become a home-run friendly park without any structural modifications. Hanley is A Hanley. Uggla has A- Swedish root. Jacobs D is not and never be a Lee. Cantu B has bats and no belly. Good to see Gonzo B+ in the team. Ross B+ tries to reinvent himself. Hermida C has not lost out there too many times. Hammer B is and his back. Treanor B is a nice backup. Unfortumately there is no starting catcher in the lineup. Rick is fun to listen to)

 

Bench: A- (They are always ready. Amezaga B is everywhere but his teddy bear has gone to Detroit)

 

Freddi: B+ (Super sorry for insulting him with this grade. After all he is a nice guy. If he wasn't I would give him A-)

 

The pitching is the key to a great second half.

Starting Lineup

Hanley Ramirez, A+. Can't give any less to the best shortstop in baseball. Hanley being Hanley.

Jeremy Hermida, C. His defensive woes have bettered quite a bit as he seems to have his head on right. On the other hand, his offense has dipped and he has been average at best.

Jorge Cantu, B+. Cantu has been a great addition to this team and prevented 3B from being the black hole of offense that most of us though it would be without Cabrera.

Josh Willingham, C+. Great production this year, but his injuries took too much time from him. By far the smartest hitter in the lineup.

Mike Jacobs, D+. Terrible fielder, his production rate is dropping. He's slugging has risen, but his OBP has dropped due to his hack and slash style. By far the dumbest hitter in the lineup.

Dan Uggla, A+. Best numbers of any 2nd baseman in the league. His defense is improving. He is on pace to break the single-season HR record for a 2nd baseman. All-star for the 2nd year. His OBP numbers have risen while his slugging has risen as well. Awesomeness.

Cody Ross, B-. He's been "clutch", he's been hitting above average. He's made us forget that we have a gaping hole in CF.

Matt Treanor, D+. He's a backup catcher being forced to start. What can you do? He's at least a smart hitter and a good game caller.

 

Bench

Luis Gonzalez, A+. With Cantu, his signing was arguably the best one we made this offseason. He did exactly what we needed when Willingham was injured, he produced and filled the hole. He is among the lead leaders in hitters with RISP, and his numbers with bases loaded are just funny to look at. Gonzalez is the smartest hitter on the team.

Wes Helms, B. You can't ask for more out of a bench player than what Helms has given us. Great pinch hitter, great in Late and Close and tie game situations, great with RISP, and a very solid defensive replacement. Best ballplayer a $1 can buy.

Alfredo Amezaga, B. Same as Helms. He's a great defensive replacement who can backup anyone, and has actually been great with RISP, Late and Close, and as a pinch hitter. The man of 1000 uses.

Robert Andino, D+. I forget he's on the team all the time. He gets nearly no playing time, and doesn't do well when he gets it. Outside one awesome walkoff homer on the 2nd day of the season, he's been useless. He really should be in AAA getting his at bats.

Mike Rabelo, F. Worse than Andino. He does get his playing time, but does very sh*tty when he gets it. He isn't good offensively, he isn't good defensively, and he is a crappy game caller. He should be in AAA not getting his at bats.

 

Starting Rotation

Ricky Nolasco, A+. Noly's been dominating. His curveball has driven men crazy. His walks have been low and his strikeouts high. If it wasn't for his late start, he would be an All-Star.

Scott Olsen, A+. Oly has arguably been just as good as Nolasco. Besides that one start in Colorado which are skewing his stats, he has been better. While Noly has been the flashier of the two, Oly has been the most consistent. He has given the team the most chances to win, regardless of whether or not they have taken advantage of it. Olsen has matured incredibly this year, both on and off the field.

Andrew Miller, C-. Miller has been average at best. He's show flashes of his future greatness, but he's not there yet. Once Ani comes back, Miller should be in AA perfecting his control.

Burke Badenhop, D. Another guy who was rushed up here, The Hopper just isn't ready for the bigs. Way too many walks, way too many mistake pitches. I expect him to eventually be a good 3-4-5 guy, but he's not there.

Mark Hendrickson, F. While he has pitched the same as Badenhop, he doesn't have that unpreparedness to fall back on. The man is not a major league pitcher, despite tricking us in April. He doesn't have good stuff, he doesn't have control. He'll be gone in a little bit...right?

Ryan Tucker, D. Tuck really showed great promise, but like Miller and Badenhop, he's not there. Just read what I said about Hopper.

 

 

Bullpen

Renyel Pinto, B. Pinto has been really good this year. He started off dominant against both lefties and righties, but started getting over worked and walking people. I expect him to bounce back after the ASB.

Joe Nelson, A. Jo-No has been great. He been a stopper, he's been clutch, and he's thrown strikes. His vulcan changeup is straight killing fools, and he's been a great pickup to the pen.

Doug Waechter, A Another great addition, he is this year's Lee Gardner. Low walks, high strikeouts, he can be both a long man and a stopper.

Kevin Gregg, C. Gregg has been average as a closer. If he was a MR or SU, I would give him an A. But as the closer, he is held to a higher standard. Too many walks are killing him. Hopefully this last week is what we are in store for in the future.

Justin Miller, Logan Kensing and Taylor Tankersley, D. These 3 guys all have the same problem, walks. The have been shells of their former selves. Hopefully they pick it up.

Matt Lindstrom, D. I only separated him from the other 3 for one reason, I believe he is been called badly. In his last appearance, he threw 18 pitches, 16 of which were fastballs. He has a decent slider that he can sometimes throw for strikes, but he never uses it. Until it starts, he has no chance.

 

Not graded due to not enough playing time.

Paul Hoover

John Baker

Jason Wood

Brett Carroll

Jacque Jones

Jai Miller

Chris Volstad

Josh Johnson

Rick VandenHurk

Eulogio De La Cruz

Lee Gardner

SP:

Johnson: I

Olsen: A-

Miller: C+

Nolasco: A

Hendrickson: C-

Volstad: I

Tucker: I

 

RP:

 

Waechter: A

Gregg: C

Pinto: A-

Lindstrom: C+

Nelson: B+

Miller: B-

 

C:

 

Treanor: B

Baker: B+

Hoover: D

Rabelo: D

 

1B:

 

Jacobs: B+

 

2B:

 

Uggla: A+

Andino: D+

 

SS:

 

Ramirez: A

 

3B:

 

Cantu: A-

Helms: B-

 

LF:

 

Willingham: B

Gonzalez: B+

 

CF:

 

Ross: A

Amezaga: B+

 

RF:

 

Hermida: C

 

 

I rated these at their respective jobs, so dont think Im giving Cantu an A- and Hanley just an A, as if they are close or something. Cantu was signed and has exceeded my expectations.

Robert Andino, D+. I forget he's on the team all the time. He gets nearly no playing time, and doesn't do well when he gets it. Outside one awesome walkoff homer on the 2nd day of the season, he's been useless. He really should be in AAA getting his at bats.

 

 

Whoa...I disagree there.

Andino's come up with some big hits for us.

 

Also, he's showed nice range...very nice glove.

 

You couldn't really expect much more out of him, especially with the limited AB's / playing time he gets.

 

He's been a solid bench player. I think he's worthy of a C, at least.

Miller has the 2nd worst ERA+ in MLB after you know who.

 

That's an F.

 

He should be in AA learning how to throw strikes.