hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

i think volstad, johnson and nolasco should all be offered long term contracts.

volstad has a certain poise and maturity on the mound for one so young to back up his stuff, that he rarely lets potentially dangerous situations spiral out of control.

JJ - well he has some great stuff and has shown in both his rookie year and his time back this season that he could be great for a long time.

nolasco - well i was critical of him before the year started, but from what iv seen in his breakout season, he most definately has one of the best breaking balls in the league, one which will continue to rack up the K's for many years

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

i think volstad, johnson and nolasco should all be offered long term contracts.

volstad has a certain poise and maturity on the mound for one so young to back up his stuff, that he rarely lets potentially dangerous situations spiral out of control.

JJ - well he has some great stuff and has shown in both his rookie year and his time back this season that he could be great for a long time.

nolasco - well i was critical of him before the year started, but from what iv seen in his breakout season, he most definately has one of the best breaking balls in the league, one which will continue to rack up the K's for many years

 

 

I also think JJ deserves a new contract. Not a contract too long, but one for about 3 or 4 years. I'm sure a lot of people on here will say he has too high of a WHIP to recieve a new contract though. :shifty

 

Im not sold on Nolasco yet. This is the first year where he has been consistently a good pitcher.

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

i think volstad, johnson and nolasco should all be offered long term contracts.

volstad has a certain poise and maturity on the mound for one so young to back up his stuff, that he rarely lets potentially dangerous situations spiral out of control.

JJ - well he has some great stuff and has shown in both his rookie year and his time back this season that he could be great for a long time.

nolasco - well i was critical of him before the year started, but from what iv seen in his breakout season, he most definately has one of the best breaking balls in the league, one which will continue to rack up the K's for many years

 

 

I also think JJ deserves a new contract. Not a contract too long, but one for about 3 or 4 years. I'm sure a lot of people on here will say he has too high of a WHIP to recieve a new contract though. :shifty

 

Im not sold on Nolasco yet. This is the first year where he has been consistently a good pitcher.

 

 

He does but he always or usually finds a way to get outta it

Hes a very good pitcher nad id put him against any lineup and would expect a W

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

i think volstad, johnson and nolasco should all be offered long term contracts.

volstad has a certain poise and maturity on the mound for one so young to back up his stuff, that he rarely lets potentially dangerous situations spiral out of control.

JJ - well he has some great stuff and has shown in both his rookie year and his time back this season that he could be great for a long time.

nolasco - well i was critical of him before the year started, but from what iv seen in his breakout season, he most definately has one of the best breaking balls in the league, one which will continue to rack up the K's for many years

 

 

I also think JJ deserves a new contract. Not a contract too long, but one for about 3 or 4 years. I'm sure a lot of people on here will say he has too high of a WHIP to recieve a new contract though. :shifty

 

Im not sold on Nolasco yet. This is the first year where he has been consistently a good pitcher.

 

i think the thing with nolasco is that his strikeouts to walk ratio has been so dramatically good for many months now that his stuff must be far too good to ensure hes not just a 1 year wonder

 

another thing i checked out with nolasco - he was 11-11 with a 4.82 ERA in his rookie year in 2006

however excluding his stats against the mets he was 11-8 with a 3.82 ERA

so it is somewhat satisfying that his stats against the mets this year are 1-1 in 3 starts (4 appearances) with a 3.48 ERA

I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

 

100% agree, Miller has just shown glimpses of being good, his best start was going 7 innings giving up 2 runs, Volstad has done that multiple times already. I believe Volstad is doing so well is that the Marlins brought him up to the majors the right way. They let him progress through the minor league system, and let him improve on his areas of weakness, Miller was rushed way to quick. The Tigers basically ruined this kid, overworked him and gave him off to us making us think he was going to be awesome. We have done that to many other teams, we got rid of both Willis and Pavano that way. The marlins are masters at overworking pitchers and getting prospects in return. Now the tables have turned, we have been f-ed over in a deal, it happens. Our future is not with Olsen, not with Miller, our future is in the hands of JJ, Anibal, Volstad, Nolasco, and a future player that will prove himself in the minors and will be called up and have the same impact Volstad has had

I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team. He had blister problems, went 8-8 in his final season wit us. The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs. I feel we got the highest value in Anibal and Hanley for him and Lowell. Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen. People expect that as soon as we get a new stadium we will see a drastic change in payroll, that's not happening. If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

 

100% agree, Miller has just shown glimpses of being good, his best start was going 7 innings giving up 2 runs, Volstad has done that multiple times already. I believe Volstad is doing so well is that the Marlins brought him up to the majors the right way. They let him progress through the minor league system, and let him improve on his areas of weakness, Miller was rushed way to quick. The Tigers basically ruined this kid, overworked him and gave him off to us making us think he was going to be awesome. We have done that to many other teams, we got rid of both Willis and Pavano that way. The marlins are masters at overworking pitchers and getting prospects in return. Now the tables have turned, we have been f-ed over in a deal, it happens. Our future is not with Olsen, not with Miller, our future is in the hands of JJ, Anibal, Volstad, Nolasco, and a future player that will prove himself in the minors and will be called up and have the same impact Volstad has had

 

actually miller threw 7 scoreless at washington, 7 scoreless vs arizona, 7 innings of 1 run ball vs philly and 7 innings of 1 run ball at seattle, whereas volstad has only went past 7 innings once, which was his first start at LA, going 8.2 innings and giving up one run

The difference is Volstad has been consistent, he has had that one bad game against the D-Backs but i think almost all of his starts have been quality starts. You don't know what to expect from Miller. He is erratic in the first inning, he is either on his game or just terrible. I don't know if i can trust him, do u actually trust Miller more than Volstad in the rotation next year?

The difference is Volstad has been consistent, he has had that one bad game against the D-Backs but i think almost all of his starts have been quality starts. You don't know what to expect from Miller. He is erratic in the first inning, he is either on his game or just terrible. I don't know if i can trust him, do u actually trust Miller more than Volstad in the rotation next year?

 

i am with u in that i have far more trust in volstad than miller for next year

that was not the point i was debating

i was just pointing out that miller had more solid outings than u gave him credit for

The difference is Volstad has been consistent, he has had that one bad game against the D-Backs but i think almost all of his starts have been quality starts. You don't know what to expect from Miller. He is erratic in the first inning, he is either on his game or just terrible. I don't know if i can trust him, do u actually trust Miller more than Volstad in the rotation next year?

 

i am with u in that i have far more trust in volstad than miller for next year

that was not the point i was debating

i was just pointing out that miller had more solid outings than u gave him credit for

 

 

ok, he has had his moments, but so has Wilson Alvarez, and what has he done lately :mis2

 

 

well I know I said Volstad had more 7 inning starts, and i admit i was wrong about that, but we can both agree the more "polished" pitcher is Volstad, he has better command of his pitches and has shown he can work out of jams, unlike Miller

The difference is Volstad has been consistent, he has had that one bad game against the D-Backs but i think almost all of his starts have been quality starts. You don't know what to expect from Miller. He is erratic in the first inning, he is either on his game or just terrible. I don't know if i can trust him, do u actually trust Miller more than Volstad in the rotation next year?

 

i am with u in that i have far more trust in volstad than miller for next year

that was not the point i was debating

i was just pointing out that miller had more solid outings than u gave him credit for

 

 

ok, he has had his moments, but so has Wilson Alvarez, and what has he done lately :mis2

 

 

well I know I said Volstad had more 7 inning starts, and i admit i was wrong about that, but we can both agree the more "polished" pitcher is Volstad, he has better command of his pitches and has shown he can work out of jams, unlike Miller

 

 

absolutely, from what iv seen i agree with u on that

however i am making it clear that i firmly believe that miller will develop into an outstanding pitcher - he has the stuff, and i am by no means giving up on him

Of course u don't give up on him, we gave up our best player in Marlins history and a former Cy Young caliber player for him and Maybin, whether they want to or not they have to have him in the starting rotation next year. Both Maybin and Miller should spend another half a year in the minors, but the marlins are frantic. They feel like they need to show fans that they did not make a bad deal. This may come back to bite them in the a**, I feel both Maybin and Miller can become stars if they were brought up the right way, the problem is both were rushed. We were given ruined goods, its up to management to make them into prodegies, but that is going to be hard. I see a lot of potential in Miller, but i still think is isn't polished enough to be a major league pitcher, its just that simple

hes had some very good starts and showed very good stuff his main issue is his control which was awful at times so after he recoverd from his injury we sent him ti AA where hes progresed and had great numbers.

but idk why hes getting over the minimum thats The Manegements decsiion but if they sign him for that price for 5 years it would be a great move

 

 

The reason why he's making more than the league minimum (which Schnellders pretty much already said), is that all rookies are signed to bigger contracts once they are drafted. Then, once their original contract expires, they recieve a new one, that one usually being a little more than the league minimum. After the second one expires, or sometimes in the middle of it, the player goes up for arbitration. Thats the point where the Marlins have traded many of their players in the past.

 

I'm not sure if Miller deserves a long-term contract though. AA is very different from the big leagues. He's barely pitched in the MLB, and when he has, he hasn't been too good.

 

If any young pitcher deserves a long-term contract, I think its Volstad. He's our future ace.

 

i think volstad, johnson and nolasco should all be offered long term contracts.

volstad has a certain poise and maturity on the mound for one so young to back up his stuff, that he rarely lets potentially dangerous situations spiral out of control.

JJ - well he has some great stuff and has shown in both his rookie year and his time back this season that he could be great for a long time.

nolasco - well i was critical of him before the year started, but from what iv seen in his breakout season, he most definately has one of the best breaking balls in the league, one which will continue to rack up the K's for many years

 

 

I also think JJ deserves a new contract. Not a contract too long, but one for about 3 or 4 years. I'm sure a lot of people on here will say he has too high of a WHIP to recieve a new contract though. :shifty

 

Im not sold on Nolasco yet. This is the first year where he has been consistently a good pitcher.

 

i think the thing with nolasco is that his strikeouts to walk ratio has been so dramatically good for many months now that his stuff must be far too good to ensure hes not just a 1 year wonder

 

another thing i checked out with nolasco - he was 11-11 with a 4.82 ERA in his rookie year in 2006

however excluding his stats against the mets he was 11-8 with a 3.82 ERA

so it is somewhat satisfying that his stats against the mets this year are 1-1 in 3 starts (4 appearances) with a 3.48 ERA

 

 

Nolascos stats, year by year:

 

2006- 22 starts, 4.82 ERA, 99 SO, 41 BB.

2007- 4 starts, 5.48 ERA, 11 SO, 9 BB.

2008- 26 starts, 3.62 ERA, 147 SO, 37 BB.

 

That means he was decent, a little below average in his rookie year in 2006. In 2007, he was just terrible, but finally, this year, he has had a great season.

 

I think if Nolasco pitches as well as he is right now next season, then he might be worthy of a long-term contract. One year just doesn't say it all for me.

Of course u don't give up on him, we gave up our best player in Marlins history and a former Cy Young caliber player for him and Maybin, whether they want to or not they have to have him in the starting rotation next year. Both Maybin and Miller should spend another half a year in the minors, but the marlins are frantic. They feel like they need to show fans that they did not make a bad deal. This may come back to bite them in the a**, I feel both Maybin and Miller can become stars if they were brought up the right way, the problem is both were rushed. We were given ruined goods, its up to management to make them into prodegies, but that is going to be hard. I see a lot of potential in Miller, but i still think is isn't polished enough to be a major league pitcher, its just that simple

Maybin has spent his entire 21 year old season in AA. This is a shining example of NOT rushing a player when they could have easily dumped him into CF this year. Miller maybe you can make this argument, but you still probably lose despite his rather ugly 175 inning performance in the bigs. He was a highly polished college pitcher, who as a class notoriously get pushed through the minors very quickly because they have nothing to prove at the minor league level because they will simply dominate hitters with their fastball. He was very good in May, and OK in June this year, and just got shelled in April and July. I'm not trying to skew his performance here by splitting out his good dozen starts, but I just don't see this exactly as a rushing issue. I trust Wiley and the Beinfest on this one, as they have developed a staple of quality young starters at this point. Leaving him in the minors another half year isn't necessarily the fix for some pitchers, and a lot of pitchers need the on the job training versus toiling in Carolina. Disappointing year? Absolutely. Thank god he has Hermida here for everyone to dump on so we stick Miller into the back of our heads, but I think you are going a bit to far with this frantic, and rushed, and ruined goods talk. None of that is accurate at this time. Both of them are probably going to be useful next year, and excellent long term.

hey the Tigers rushed these guys, maybe they saw that and exploited it by throwing them at us at there highest value to get Cabrera. That's just how i see it. Miller has potential, i have seen it, i just need to see consistency.

Lou and Marlins 03 agreed on something, the universe may collapse on itself!

I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team. He had blister problems, went 8-8 in his final season wit us. The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs. I feel we got the highest value in Anibal and Hanley for him and Lowell. Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen. People expect that as soon as we get a new stadium we will see a drastic change in payroll, that's not happening. If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

 

 

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I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team. He had blister problems, went 8-8 in his final season wit us. The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs. I feel we got the highest value in Anibal and Hanley for him and Lowell. Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen. People expect that as soon as we get a new stadium we will see a drastic change in payroll, that's not happening. If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

 

 

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why?

hey the Tigers rushed these guys, maybe they saw that and exploited it by throwing them at us at there highest value to get Cabrera. That's just how i see it. Miller has potential, i have seen it, i just need to see consistency.

Please explain to me how Cameron Maybin is rushed

I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team. He had blister problems, went 8-8 in his final season wit us. The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs. I feel we got the highest value in Anibal and Hanley for him and Lowell. Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen. People expect that as soon as we get a new stadium we will see a drastic change in payroll, that's not happening. If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

 

 

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why?

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team.

 

The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs.

 

Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen.

 

If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

I highly doubt we will ever see the day where we offer a pitcher a long term contract. It just won't happen, it's not the philosophy of this organization, and for good reason.

 

If we didn't give Josh Beckett long term deal, we aren't giving Chris Volstad one...

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team. He had blister problems, went 8-8 in his final season wit us. The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs. I feel we got the highest value in Anibal and Hanley for him and Lowell. Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen. People expect that as soon as we get a new stadium we will see a drastic change in payroll, that's not happening. If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

 

 

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why?

 

 

well Beckett didn't show us much when he was wit our team.

 

The only real highlight he had with us was the playoffs.

 

Volstad probably will be the only pitcher to get a long term deal, it won't happen in the near future, but it will happen.

 

If u want to see what the worst thing that could happen to us when we get a new stadium, just look at Loria's last "project" in the Nats.

 

 

 

Beckett never pitched 200 innings for us, only once had 10+ wins, and had a measly 3 CG overall, sure the ERA was respectable but he didn't pitch enough to show us much of his ace stature.

 

Yes Volstad will be the only one signed long term, I think the FO will see Nolasco's season as a 1 year wonder, Olsen is costly and a big risk, JJ and Anibal both have previous injury concerns.

 

Yes Loria f-ed up the Nats, true they got a new stadium, but that doesn't mean people automatically show up to games.

Beckett never pitched 200 innings for us, only once had 10+ wins, and had a measly 3 CG overall, sure the ERA was respectable but he didn't pitch enough to show us much of his ace stature.

 

Didn't pitch enough to show his ace stature?? Everytime he took the mound he did something special, and don't forget he was only 22 years old his first season as a Marlin so yea he never pitched 200 innings, but it wasn't because of any major arm problems or history, it was due to a minor issue with his blisters.

 

He only showed stuff during the playoffs, that's not true, but if it is so what? I think what he did in the world series was enough to show that he was a superstar for the Marlins.

 

 

Yes Volstad will be the only one signed long term, I think the FO will see Nolasco's season as a 1 year wonder, Olsen is costly and a big risk, JJ and Anibal both have previous injury concerns.

 

 

I didn't realize you were Nostradamus. My bad.

 

Yes Loria f-ed up the Nats, true they got a new stadium, but that doesn't mean people automatically show up to games.

 

It's been almost seven years since Loria has had anything whatsoever to do with the Expos/Nats. He is not the reason they are one of the worse teams in baseball and to say otherwise is asinine.

My thoughts

 

1. Jacobs and Olsen should definitely go.

2. Ricky Nolasco should definitely stay...you don't let go of a guy who's pitched like an ace, for the last 3 months or so...a guy who hasn't even reached his prime years yet, either. Nolasco is turning his status to underrated, rather quickly.

 

...as far as Uggla and Gregg...I THINK they are replaceable pieces; but I wouldn't mind keeping them for one more year.

It all depends on the type of value we get back for those two.

 

Regarding Gregg...I think he gets too much hate. At the end of the day, every pitcher in the bullpen has been inconsistent, in their own way. Keeping Gregg for another year wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing. Lindstrom gets lots of love...but fact is, it's also the same Lindstrom who was sent down earlier this year, and the same Lindstrom who's not as young as people think. I think the future at closer is Ryan Tucker...but you can't just give the guy who has proven nothing, the job. Plus, Tucker would still be a very young 22 years old, next year.

To this day people still don't understand that Great Montreal Firesale that people are so sure was the handiwork of Jeffrey Loria didn't happen until Omar Minaya was at the helm.

 

And Lou and I agree often but we're passionate about our differences.