C Pudge

1B Lee

2B Castillo

SS Hanley (barely)

3B Lowell (barely)

LF Conine

CF Kotsay (close..)

RF CABRERA (he has to be in there somewhere)

SP Penny, Beckett, Willis, Hough, Livan

RP Powell, Harvey, Looper

Closer Nen

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

C-Pudge

1B-D.Lee

2B-Dan Uggla (although Luis Castillo was one of my favorites)

3B-Mike Lowell

SS-Hanley Ramirez

LF-Miguel Cabrera

CF-Juan Pierre

RF-Gary Sheffield

 

SP-Kevin Brown

SP-Josh Beckett

SP-Dontrelle Willis

SP-Al Leiter

SP-Brad Penny

 

RP-Lee Gardner

RP-Joe Nelson

RP-Matt Lindstrom

 

*I'm not listing closers, as middle relievers / setup men.*

 

Closer-Armando Benitez

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

Trevor Hoffman. just kidding, he only played in 28 games before he got traded to the padres for sheffield

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

 

One of them you listed...but as a reliever, not a closer (Harvey).

The best single-season performance the Marlins have had from a reliever = Armando Benitez.

 

My list is based on single-season performances for my relievers, as the Marlins usually only have relievers for a year...

beckett was great until he would get a blister like every other start....and why isn't alex fernandez not a choice?

I would also question the abscence of Al Leiter

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

 

One of them you listed...but as a reliever, not a closer (Harvey).

The best single-season performance the Marlins have had from a reliever = Armando Benitez.

 

My list is based on single-season performances for my relievers, as the Marlins usually only have relievers for a year...

Armando Benitez had a great season for us but he pales in comparison to the performance of Bryan Harvey

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

 

One of them you listed...but as a reliever, not a closer (Harvey).

The best single-season performance the Marlins have had from a reliever = Armando Benitez.

 

My list is based on single-season performances for my relievers, as the Marlins usually only have relievers for a year...

Armando Benitez had a great season for us but he pales in comparison to the performance of Bryan Harvey

 

Huh? Care to compare?

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

 

One of them you listed...but as a reliever, not a closer (Harvey).

The best single-season performance the Marlins have had from a reliever = Armando Benitez.

 

My list is based on single-season performances for my relievers, as the Marlins usually only have relievers for a year...

Armando Benitez had a great season for us but he pales in comparison to the performance of Bryan Harvey

 

Huh? Care to compare?

I would love to absolutely! Eric I understand why u may be inclined to say that Benitez was the best but lets look at some stats for a moment...

Bryan Harvey had 45 saves and Benitez had 47

Harvey had an ERA of 1.70 Benitez had 1.29

for you WHIP lovers Harvey- .841/Benitez- .818

Looking at those numbers you would say that the both had incredible seasons but that Benitez was a little better by a slim margin...NOT SO FAST!

Those are not by any stretch of imagination the same Marlin teams! The year that Harvey had thhose 45 saves the Marlins only won 65 games He was responsible in that sense for over 69% of those wins

Benitez had 47 saves and the Marlins won 83 games saving 54% of those victorys. It doesn't just stop there, Bryan pitched in 59 games to get his saves Armando pitched in 64 games. It is unfortunate I couldn't find the blown saves stats. In 69.0 innings Harvey had 73 Ks/13 BB Benitez in 69.7 innings had 62 Ks/21 BB. There is a significant difference there. Benitez allowed 6 homers that season in comparison to Harvey allowing 4. Considering the defense that surrounded each of them, the difference of 3 runs allowed the season between them is laughable. You would expect that margin to be much greater. For my money I believe Harvey had the most outstanding performance, without him the Marlins may not have won 50 games that year. He was the savior in 1993

Erick who are the greatest relivers in marlins history

 

 

One of them you listed...but as a reliever, not a closer (Harvey).

The best single-season performance the Marlins have had from a reliever = Armando Benitez.

 

My list is based on single-season performances for my relievers, as the Marlins usually only have relievers for a year...

Armando Benitez had a great season for us but he pales in comparison to the performance of Bryan Harvey

 

Huh? Care to compare?

I would love to absolutely! Eric I understand why u may be inclined to say that Benitez was the best but lets look at some stats for a moment...

Bryan Harvey had 45 saves and Benitez had 47

Harvey had an ERA of 1.70 Benitez had 1.29

for you WHIP lovers Harvey- .841/Benitez- .818

Looking at those numbers you would say that the both had incredible seasons but that Benitez was a little better by a slim margin...NOT SO FAST!

Those are not by any stretch of imagination the same Marlin teams! The year that Harvey had thhose 45 saves the Marlins only won 65 games He was responsible in that sense for over 69% of those wins

Benitez had 47 saves and the Marlins won 83 games saving 54% of those victorys. It doesn't just stop there, Bryan pitched in 59 games to get his saves Armando pitched in 64 games. It is unfortunate I couldn't find the blown saves stats. In 69.0 innings Harvey had 73 Ks/13 BB Benitez in 69.7 innings had 62 Ks/21 BB. There is a significant difference there. Benitez allowed 6 homers that season in comparison to Harvey allowing 4. Considering the defense that surrounded each of them, the difference of 3 runs allowed the season between them is laughable. You would expect that margin to be much greater. For my money I believe Harvey had the most outstanding performance, without him the Marlins may not have won 50 games that year. He was the savior in 1993

 

 

The fact that Harvey saved games on a lesser team doesn't say much about him, imo. It just says less for the '93 team that they really had a tough time winning games.

 

I also don't understand why you used games pitched in order to get so many saves, as a "stat," in Harvey's favor.

 

Regarding save %...Benitez had a better save %. Benitez blew 4 saves in 51 chances in '04. Harvey blew 4 saves in 49 chances in '93.

 

So basically...the only thing that leaves Harvey with is a better .OPS against...and not by a great amount. Harvey's was at .462 in '93; Benitez .OPS against was .477 in '04.

 

Both years are very comparable, you can say. There probably is no clear cut winner. Regardless, Benitez' 317 ERA+ in '04 was pretty impressive. He deserves to be on the poll.

3 more votes and the poll closes

ill post the team then ill make a Poll for another team

 

O and No votes for Dookie

cuz Rachel didnt vote lol

While no one ever agrees w/ this sort of ranking, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, I find it funny that the majority of the players that are leading this poll in their respective positions were on the most recent WS team.

 

I suppose w/ newer fans they only know recent history because they didn't witness the earlier years. For example, while Pudge's leadership was vital and undeniable to the '03 Championship, there's no way a 1 yr rental who hit only 16 hrs on the down-side of his prime beats out our franchise's first draft pick; CJ won a Gold Glove as a rookie, then proceeded to win 3 more straight. Aside from being a native son, he threw out nearly 44% of base sealers while wearing teal pinstripes. While Pudge gets CJ in terms of avg and RBI's, CJ had 2 seasons w/ more Jacks. Finally, CJ was just as important to the 97 WS championship squad.

 

Juan Pierre, Derek Lee I can understand though I didn't vote for them (while JP was the superior hitter and fielder, as good as we was on the basepaths for the fish, there's no way he held a candle to Chuckie in that regard; two straight years w/ 70+ SB's, winning the Lou Brock award as a rookie!). But Harvey getting less votes than Borowski and even Lindstrom? Miggy's offensive numbers were monster, but because of only 2 full yrs at third, substandard defense and poor attitude elevates Lowell above him, in my opinion. And somehow I can't stomache "Nipples" (Burnett) getting more votes than Leiter and nearly making it into the top 5.

 

What would be interesting is to make two teams, one w/ the best players from the first and last 8 seasons (93-2000, 2001-08), and see how they matchup. Both time periods are failry similar, containing WS championships and fire sales, success and failure.

While no one ever agrees w/ this sort of ranking, and everyone is entitled to their opinion, I find it funny that the majority of the players that are leading this poll in their respective positions were on the most recent WS team.

 

I suppose w/ newer fans they only know recent history because they didn't witness the earlier years. For example, while Pudge's leadership was vital and undeniable to the '03 Championship, there's no way a 1 yr rental who hit only 16 hrs on the down-side of his prime beats out our franchise's first draft pick; CJ won a Gold Glove as a rookie, then proceeded to win 3 more straight. Aside from being a native son, he threw out nearly 44% of base sealers while wearing teal pinstripes. While Pudge gets CJ in terms of avg and RBI's, CJ had 2 seasons w/ more Jacks. Finally, CJ was just as important to the 97 WS championship squad.

 

Juan Pierre, Derek Lee I can understand though I didn't vote for them (while JP was the superior hitter and fielder, as good as we was on the basepaths for the fish, there's no way he held a candle to Chuckie in that regard; two straight years w/ 70+ SB's, winning the Lou Brock award as a rookie!). But Harvey getting less votes than Borowski and even Lindstrom? Miggy's offensive numbers were monster, but because of only 2 full yrs at third, substandard defense and poor attitude elevates Lowell above him, in my opinion. And somehow I can't stomache "Nipples" (Burnett) getting more votes than Leiter and nearly making it into the top 5.

 

What would be interesting is to make two teams, one w/ the best players from the first and last 8 seasons (93-2000, 2001-08), and see how they matchup. Both time periods are failry similar, containing WS championships and fire sales, success and failure.

Oh, here is the best one in my opinion:

 

Josh Beckett, who was never our best pitcher in any of the years he was on the team, with so many more votes than Kevin Brown, who had by far the best season of any Marlins pitcher ever and also had the 3rd best season in team history.

 

Oh, and that 2.69 ERA and 1.180 WHIP in his lesser year MIGHT have helped us win a WS in 1997.

I know I'm echoing the sentiments of previous posters but, way too many key players are still missing. Relievers- dennis cook, felix heredia, matt mantei to name a few.

 

Also because of the relative age of people on the board, the voting is very 2003-2008 heavy. For example, Patt Rapp had the most wins in the early years and should receive some consideration. Also, if the vote is just looking at their time as marlins, CJ has to be placed over pudge.

Well, that's what happens when the guy who makes the poll is 8.

Well, that's what happens when the guy who makes the poll is 8.

 

 

I wasn't questioning the poll starter a smuch as the general voting population on the site. Although, congrats to the gentleman that made the poll if he is only 8, because thats a lot of knowledge about the marlins for someone that age.

Chad Fox shouldve been listed on there IMO he played a key role in 03

Well, that's what happens when the guy who makes the poll is 8.

 

 

I wasn't questioning the poll starter a smuch as the general voting population on the site. Although, congrats to the gentleman that made the poll if he is only 8, because thats a lot of knowledge about the marlins for someone that age.

 

 

im 14 but Rab (my mentor :banghead ) says im 8 cuz of my typing abuilities and overall behavior

ok poll is over and here is what the team looks like

 

Batting Order

Batting 1st

SS Hanley Ramirez

2B Luis Castillo

3B Miguel Cabrera

1B Derrek Lee

RF Gary Sheffield

LF Jeff Conine

C Pudge Rodriguez

CF Juan Pierre

 

Bench

CJ Charles Johnson

Mike Lowell

Dan Uggla

Moises Alou

 

Rotation

Josh BecKectt

Kevin Brown

Dontrelle Willis

Livan Hernandez

Brad Penny

 

BullPen

 

Braden Looper

Jay Powell

Joe Borowski

AJ Burnett

RicKy NolasKo

Brain Harvey

Todd Jones

 

 

 

Closer

Robb Nen

I know I'm echoing the sentiments of previous posters but, way too many key players are still missing. Relievers- dennis cook, felix heredia, matt mantei to name a few.

 

Also because of the relative age of people on the board, the voting is very 2003-2008 heavy. For example, Patt Rapp had the most wins in the early years and should receive some consideration. Also, if the vote is just looking at their time as marlins, CJ has to be placed over pudge.

 

Which is exactly why you and I appear to be the only ones who voted for the Ragin' Cajun. My top 5 were Brown, Beckett, Leiter, Dempster (because he was our our ace for so many of those late 90's/early 2000 teams and was a strikeout fiend) and Rapp (best starter through their first 5 yrs or so as you pointed out).

 

But I wouldn't expect this knowledge from anyone less than someone who has the Marlins' all-time Uilityman as part of their nick. As much as I like Fredo, he can't hold a candle to John.