October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Hermida will out slug Raynor any day. And probably out hit him any day to.
October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Crawford to Raynor is a bad comparison, seeing as Raynor this past year was the same age that Crawford was in his 5th season. Also, Crawford doesn't walk for sh*t. Hermida walks way more that Crawford. Oh, and since apparently we are comparing minor league numbers to MLB numbers, Hermida walked 111 times in AA Carlina at age 21. Also, Hermida is younger than Raynor.
October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Hermida will out slug Raynor any day. And probably out hit him any day to. Out slug him yes, out hit him I don't think so.
October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Crawford to Raynor is a bad comparison, seeing as Raynor this past year was the same age that Crawford was in his 5th season. Also, Crawford doesn't walk for sh*t. Hermida walks way more that Crawford. Oh, and since apparently we are comparing minor league numbers to MLB numbers, Hermida walked 111 times in AA Carlina at age 21. Also, Hermida is younger than Raynor. Oh, I'm sorry, Hermida is older than Raynor by a whole 26 days. My bad. FYI, I never compared minor league stats to major league stats. I stated that Raynor had 62 walks in his last rookie season, while Crawford had 20 walks in his last rookie season.
October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Hermida will out slug Raynor any day. And probably out hit him any day to. Out slug him yes, out hit him I don't think so. No, i think he'll out hit him to
October 3, 200817 yr Could you finally give me a reason as to why Raynor is not a corner outfielder? He has played in either left or right field in 260 of his 280 career games. The only other position he has ever played is center, where he only played 20 games and had an abysmal fielding %. finally? I've been saying forever on this board every time I see someone do this, why this is not a good idea. Everyone pretty much covered this already, but he doesn't have the power for a corner spot. Yes, his slugging has been cool the last two years of the minors, but he doesn't have the body type or swing (universal among scouts) to hit for a lot of power in the bigs. What this is going to do is, better pitchers at higher levels are going to challenge him more because there is no fear of him blasting a mistake (You can make this same argument for Coghlan, but two things stand out with him. First, he is a middle infielder where it is acceptable not to hit as much as a corner OF slot, and second, Coghlan has about half the K rate which will make him a better transition because he should make consistent contact). This is overall, going to hurt a player like Raynor a lot, who won't be able to keep up the average with more strikes thrown and that K rate I alluded to. When he does hit, it will not be for power, which would be the only other way he could make an offensive contribution. He does BB a bit which is very useful, but his OBP potential is simply not going to be high enough for him to live in a corner. Likewise for defense, where a corner OF slot isn't going to great a massive defensive production swing like a place like SS or CF would. Now if we didn't have Maybin, I wouldn't mind flirting with Raynor in CF and see if he can maybe become a poor man's Victorino and hit something like .270/.340/.400 with the excellent SB totals and defense. That is a solid starting calibre CF. Nothing special, but nothing embarrassing either. But with Maybin in town, Raynor has no business playing in center now and forever, and absolutely no business in a corner sparing a rash of injuries. Ideally, I would like to see Raynor turn into our 5th outfielder and hit that low 700 OPS line above. That would be an incredibly useful baseball to have around because that is solid offensive production, speed, and good defense. As for 2009, he should live in New Orleans (AAA affiliate) and then show up on the MLB roster in September and fight for a bench job Spring 2010. If you're trying to compare Raynor to Coghlan, Coghlan trails Raynor basically in every category except stikeouts. I know it is more acceptable for a second baseman to have less power, and not be as good of a hitter as a left fielder should be, but I think you're underestimating what Raynor could do straight out of the minors. One person I like to compare him to is Carl Crawford. A speedy left fielder, who is a decent fielder and does not hit for power. Crawford only hit 5 home runs in his first full season in the MLB, but batted .281 and stole 55 bases. He was a great contributor in his first full season, just like Raynor could be. Not to mention Raynor walked more than triple the amount of times Crawford walked in his final rookie season, and Raynor had an outstanding .402 OBP. Not all left fielders must hit for power, and power isn't the only way you can contribute to a team. Dont forget, since Maybin is almost a lock to be next year's center fielder, currently, the only other available options for corner outfielders would be Ross and Hermida. Cody would be good in right, but Hermida barely has more power than Raynor, and I dont think he would put up that much better stats than John would. Crawford to Raynor is a bad comparison, seeing as Raynor this past year was the same age that Crawford was in his 5th season. Also, Crawford doesn't walk for sh*t. Hermida walks way more that Crawford. Oh, and since apparently we are comparing minor league numbers to MLB numbers, Hermida walked 111 times in AA Carlina at age 21. Also, Hermida is younger than Raynor. Oh, I'm sorry, Hermida is older than Raynor by a whole 26 days. My bad. FYI, I never compared minor league stats to major league stats. I stated that Raynor had 62 walks in his last rookie season, while Crawford had 20 walks in his last rookie season. To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo?
October 3, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina.
October 3, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina. Raynor, at 24, hit for a higher average than Hermida did, at age 21, in AA. But Hermida had a higher OBP, a higher slugging, more walks, less Ks, more homers, and did all that in less games.
October 3, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina. We really dont need more speed.
October 3, 200817 yr I've said it before...I'll say it, again. If the organization gives up on Hermida for nothing...it'd be the biggest mistake of the offseason.
October 3, 200817 yr I've said it before...I'll say it, again. If the organization gives up on Hermida for nothing...it'd be the biggest mistake of the offseason. Completely agree
October 3, 200817 yr I've said it before...I'll say it, again. If the organization gives up on Hermida for nothing...it'd be the biggest mistake of the offseason. They won't give up on him for nothing. Teams know what kind of talent Hermida is. I expect him to be back in Florida anyway.
October 4, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina. We really dont need more speed. Why not? I can understand the thinking that we don't need slugging, but what's wrong with competent baserunners? Especially if the guy will likely fit into the 7th or 8th spot in the lineup and need to be moving on bunts and hit-and-runs. And I would imagine that with Raynor generally being seen as a CF is probably a much better defender than Hermida, and that is also relevant IMO.
October 4, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina. We really dont need more speed. Why not? I can understand the thinking that we don't need slugging, but what's wrong with competent baserunners? Especially if the guy will likely fit into the 7th or 8th spot in the lineup and need to be moving on bunts and hit-and-runs. And I would imagine that with Raynor generally being seen as a CF is probably a much better defender than Hermida, and that is also relevant IMO. From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try.
October 4, 200817 yr From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try. Understood on Raynor. Honestly, I'd hope a new LF would come through whatever trades we make (or signing FA Manny Ramirez ) As for Hermida, his tools make no difference if he doesn't try.
October 4, 200817 yr From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try. Understood on Raynor. Honestly, I'd hope a new LF would come through whatever trades we make (or signing FA Manny Ramirez ) As for Hermida, his tools make no difference if he doesn't try. I know, it drives me batshit.
October 4, 200817 yr From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try. Understood on Raynor. Honestly, I'd hope a new LF would come through whatever trades we make (or signing FA Manny Ramirez ) As for Hermida, his tools make no difference if he doesn't try. I know, it drives me batshit. exactly what i have been saying for 2 years, it is not that Hermida doesn't have the potential, i just think he does whatever it takes to slide by, he never hustles after a ball in the field, and at bat he hasn't decided what kind of hitter he will be. I would rather take my chances with Raynor and get some speed, effort and aggression at bat and in the field than stick with Hermida tbh
October 4, 200817 yr From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try. Understood on Raynor. Honestly, I'd hope a new LF would come through whatever trades we make (or signing FA Manny Ramirez ) As for Hermida, his tools make no difference if he doesn't try. I know, it drives me batshit. exactly what i have been saying for 2 years, it is not that Hermida doesn't have the potential, i just think he does whatever it takes to slide by, he never hustles after a ball in the field, and at bat he hasn't decided what kind of hitter he will be. I would rather take my chances with Raynor and get some speed, effort and aggression at bat and in the field than stick with Hermida tbh Or just play Cody in RF, dump Hermida in whatever larger trades we make, and target a good hitting corner OF to play LF.
October 4, 200817 yr From what I understand Raynor isn't all that great of a defender. He takes strange routes and has an average arm. Hermida would be a much better defender if he just tried. He has all the tools for it. He occasionally shows that he understands how to use his tools as well. He just doesn't try. Understood on Raynor. Honestly, I'd hope a new LF would come through whatever trades we make (or signing FA Manny Ramirez ) As for Hermida, his tools make no difference if he doesn't try. I know, it drives me batshit. exactly what i have been saying for 2 years, it is not that Hermida doesn't have the potential, i just think he does whatever it takes to slide by, he never hustles after a ball in the field, and at bat he hasn't decided what kind of hitter he will be. I would rather take my chances with Raynor and get some speed, effort and aggression at bat and in the field than stick with Hermida tbh Hermida knows exactly what kind of hitter he is, it's the coaches who decided to make him more aggressive. And I much rather Raynor have another season in AA, playing his actual position (CF) and have Cody play right if we were to trade Hermida. Also, I much rather keep Hermida. There is just too much potential there to throw out because a 24 year old just doesn't get it yet.
October 4, 200817 yr To be honest, I don't get what that means, "last rookie season". I mean, Raynor's never been a rookie, so how can he have a rookie season? Also, Hermida put up better numbers than Raynor 3 years ago in the same league. Way better. And thirdly, walking more than Crawford is no huge feat. I'll put it this way...Mike Jacobs walks more than Carl Crawford. Quite a bit more, at that. (Once every 13.2 PA vs 20.7 PA). Why not just compare Raynor to Miguel Olivo? Sorry, I worded it wrong. I meant last minor league season. Hermida has more power than Raynor, but Raynor still has more speed and he batted for a higher average in 2008 than Hermida did in 2005 in Carolina. We really dont need more speed. Why not? I can understand the thinking that we don't need slugging, but what's wrong with competent baserunners? Especially if the guy will likely fit into the 7th or 8th spot in the lineup and need to be moving on bunts and hit-and-runs. And I would imagine that with Raynor generally being seen as a CF is probably a much better defender than Hermida, and that is also relevant IMO. We have enough speed in Hanley and Maybin.Potentially also Chris Coughlan.We could use another power hitter with good average, with the departure of some of our power hitters.
October 4, 200817 yr I want Uggla to stay. I do not see what Coughlen may add to this team. He may add some speed, but we would have enough in Maybin, Hanley, and possibly Raynor, and we may still have Amezaga on the bench. He is worse than Uggla defensively, and he doesn't have nearly the power Uggla has. I may not be the biggest Uggla fan, but it is hard to find a 2nd baseman in the league currently that will give ur team the kind of production Uggla will give u. I understand many people want to give Hermida another year because of his age and potential, but I just think he doesn't have that want to be a better player. He just seems to not give a damn. Fredi did a good thing by benching him, telling him that he does not have a free ride on this team. I would like to see how he does in spring training, if he shows the same "i don't give a sh*t" attitude as he has for the last 2 years, I say bring up Raynor, start him in left, and put Cody in right. If Hermida finally shows that he is maturing and becoming a better player in spring training, then i say start him, but keep him on a very short leash
October 4, 200817 yr I want Uggla to stay. I do not see what Coughlen may add to this team. He may add some speed, but we would have enough in Maybin, Hanley, and possibly Raynor, and we may still have Amezaga on the bench. He is worse than Uggla defensively, and he doesn't have nearly the power Uggla has. I may not be the biggest Uggla fan, but it is hard to find a 2nd baseman in the league currently that will give ur team the kind of production Uggla will give u. I understand many people want to give Hermida another year because of his age and potential, but I just think he doesn't have that want to be a better player. He just seems to not give a damn. Fredi did a good thing by benching him, telling him that he does not have a free ride on this team. I would like to see how he does in spring training, if he shows the same "i don't give a sh*t" attitude as he has for the last 2 years, I say bring up Raynor, start him in left, and put Cody in right. If Hermida finally shows that he is maturing and becoming a better player in spring training, then i say start him, but keep him on a very short leash Thats Really the Plan, Give him his last shot and make him prove himself. If he dosent simpley, he's gone if he does, We have ourselves a good Ballplayer. But Raynor has basically the slimmest chances as of being a starter next season.
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