Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs.

 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him. I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

 

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field. He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good. The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much. Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power. Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average.

 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point. These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio. They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference. The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it. Bonifacio just does not have that capability. All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season. I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

 

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball. He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September. Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury. He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year.

 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production. I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done. The Marlins are going to need every win they can get. Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B. Pull the trigger already!

I agree It's time for Gaby to get the call so we can fight for our spot at the top of the division.

Bonifacio could still get some starts but would be a great utility man of the bench.

 

Good post, besides the font and Welcome to Marlinsbaseball.com where you are one of us now.

 

:welcome

Emilio Bonifacio is our starting 3rd baseman, get over it!

 

AND STOP DELETING MY POSTS JUST

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE.

Emilio Bonifacio is our starting 3rd baseman, get over it!

 

AND STOP DELETING MY POSTS JUST

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE.

 

 

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Emilio Bonifacio is our starting 3rd baseman, get over it!

 

AND STOP DELETING MY POSTS JUST

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE.

 

 

LOL REBELLION!!! what happened man?

I made the post saying "For the last time, Emilio Bonifacio is our starting 3rd baseman, get over it!" And it got deleted. This is at least the 3rd time I have made a post like that about Bonifacio and it has gotten deleted. I'm just saying all these hypothetical threads aren't meaning anything because Bonifacio is our third baseman, the team loves him, he has been playing well as of late, and there are no signs of anthing changing.

Emilio Bonifacio is our starting 3rd baseman, get over it!

 

AND STOP DELETING MY POSTS JUST

 

BECAUSE THEY ARE TRUE.

 

 

 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

dudes pissed

Gaby Sanchez isn't a HUGE prospect.

His numbers last year are MUCH better than his numbers this year.

Dim is right. get over it. Bonifacio is going to be starting here for a LONG time. When Uggla is gone next year, don't be suprised if Boniafacio is starting , not couglan.

Seriously, is the OP Marlins1? It almost has to be.

Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs.

 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him. I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

 

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field. He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good. The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much. Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power. Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average.

 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point. These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio. They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference. The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it. Bonifacio just does not have that capability. All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season. I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

 

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball. He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September. Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury. He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year.

 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production. I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done. The Marlins are going to need every win they can get. Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B. Pull the trigger already!

 

 

Wow. So many holes in this it's not even funny. And I do enjoy a good comedy routine.

 

"Huge prospect"?? "Major League hitter"?? One thing I can agree with. 8 ABs in '08 is definetly "limited action." Other than that the only thing he has shown is that given the opportunity to make this team, he failed miserably. Not very good defensively at 1B, couldn't hit MLB pitching in ST, slower on the bases than a catcher; all in all just couldn't get the job done with everyone on his side (especially the FO) to make the team. But switching him and giving him a handful of starts at 3B in a hitters league will make him a better defensive and offensive player at this level.

Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs.

 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him. I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

 

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field. He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good. The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much. Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power. Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average.

 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point. These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio. They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference. The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it. Bonifacio just does not have that capability. All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season. I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

 

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball. He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September. Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury. He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year.

 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production. I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done. The Marlins are going to need every win they can get. Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B. Pull the trigger already!

 

 

Wow. So many holes in this it's not even funny. And I do enjoy a good comedy routine.

 

"Huge prospect"?? "Major League hitter"?? One thing I can agree with. 8 ABs in '08 is definetly "limited action." Other than that the only thing he has shown is that given the opportunity to make this team, he failed miserably. Not very good defensively at 1B, couldn't hit MLB pitching in ST, slower on the bases than a catcher; all in all just couldn't get the job done with everyone on his side (especially the FO) to make the team. But switching him and giving him a handful of starts at 3B in a hitters league will make him a better defensive and offensive player at this level.

 

Bob, while I don't agree with everything written by the OP, but I can't agree with a ton of yours.

 

1) You're writing off Gaby because of SPRING TRAINING?! Come on. A spring training where, by the way, Bonifacio kinda sucked. He just sucked less than the other candidates.

2) Gaby Sanchez has won awards for his defense at 1B.

3) He's not "slower than a catcher". He's actually got good, maybe above average, speed for a 1B.

4) Yes, he is hitting well in a hitter's league. He also did pretty decent when in a non-hitter's league, when he won the MVP award last year.

Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs.

 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him. I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

 

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field. He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good. The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much. Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power. Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average.

 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point. These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio. They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference. The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it. Bonifacio just does not have that capability. All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season. I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

 

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball. He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September. Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury. He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year.

 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production. I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done. The Marlins are going to need every win they can get. Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B. Pull the trigger already!

 

 

Wow. So many holes in this it's not even funny. And I do enjoy a good comedy routine.

 

"Huge prospect"?? "Major League hitter"?? One thing I can agree with. 8 ABs in '08 is definetly "limited action." Other than that the only thing he has shown is that given the opportunity to make this team, he failed miserably. Not very good defensively at 1B, couldn't hit MLB pitching in ST, slower on the bases than a catcher; all in all just couldn't get the job done with everyone on his side (especially the FO) to make the team. But switching him and giving him a handful of starts at 3B in a hitters league will make him a better defensive and offensive player at this level.

 

Yea, but your paragraph is flawless.

Now that the season is half over (a little more actually), now is a good time to reevaluate and see what the Marlins need to do to improve the team and give them the best chance to make the playoffs.

 

Of all the things they can do, the most obvious, and least costly, would be to promote Gaby Sanchez from Triple-A, and play him. I think this move alone will greatly improve the production of the Marlins lineup in the second half, and would lead to two or three more wins for The Fish down the stretch.

 

Bonifacio, for all his intangible assets, is not getting it done at the plate or in the field. He is hitting a mediocre .258, but when you consider how terrible his other offensive statistics are, his average is misleadingly good. The problem is Bonifacio has no power (82 percent of his hits are singles), he seldom walks (which leads to an on-base percentage of just .304), and he strikes out way too much. Bonifacio has 73 Ks on the season, which is ridiculous for a leadoff hitter, especially for one with no power. Bonifacio has the 15th most strikeouts in the National League, but he has none of the other assets a team should get in exchange for those Ks, like HRs, RBIs, or a high average.

 

Let’s look at the 14 players in the National League with more Ks than Bonifacio to demonstrate my point. These 14 players average 14 more HRs and 30 more RBIs than Bonifacio. They have an average OPS of 0.849, while Bonifacio’s is just 0.624, a 0.221 difference. The other teams in MLB understand that if a player is going to strike out as much as Bonifacio does, you better get some real power numbers to go with it. Bonifacio just does not have that capability. All of this might be overlooked if he had truly stellar defense, but Bonifacio is leading the Major Leagues in errors with 13 on the season. I hate to say it, but Bonifacio is killing us.

 

Gaby Sanchez, on the other hand, is a huge prospect that has been an amazing hitter at every level of minor league ball. He even hit .375 in limited action in the Big Leagues last September. Sanchez was MVP of the Double-A Southern League last year (.314/17 HR/92 RBI/.917 OPS in 478 ABs), and has put up comparable numbers in Triple-A this year (.297/8 HR/35 RBI/.815 OPS in just 212 ABs), although he was sidelined for a month with a knee injury. He also plays solid defense, winning the Southern League award for best defensive first baseman last year.

 

Now that Sanchez has established his health, I don’t see how he still has not been given a chance to help the Marlins given Bonifacio’s lack of production. I am delighted to see that the Marlins are in contention, but I am getting mad that they have not made a switch at 3B when the numbers show quite painfully that something needs to be done. The Marlins are going to need every win they can get. Sanchez is Major League hitter and a very good option at 3B. Pull the trigger already!

 

 

Wow. So many holes in this it's not even funny. And I do enjoy a good comedy routine.

 

"Huge prospect"?? "Major League hitter"?? One thing I can agree with. 8 ABs in '08 is definetly "limited action." Other than that the only thing he has shown is that given the opportunity to make this team, he failed miserably. Not very good defensively at 1B, couldn't hit MLB pitching in ST, slower on the bases than a catcher; all in all just couldn't get the job done with everyone on his side (especially the FO) to make the team. But switching him and giving him a handful of starts at 3B in a hitters league will make him a better defensive and offensive player at this level.

 

Yea, but you're paragraph is flawless.

Don't ya hate that?!

Actually, I do. I don't know how that happened.

Actually, I do. I don't know how that happened.

 

It always happens when point out flaws, just the way it is. I try to triple check my posts in such cases, just to make sure I don't look foolish.

Actually, I do. I don't know how that happened.

 

It always happens when point out flaws, just the way it is. I try to triple check my posts in such cases, just to make sure I don't look foolish.

 

 

The thing is though, when I said his paragraph is flawless, I didn't mean it in a grammatical way. He said his paragrpahs had so many holes, talking about baseball, yet he comes back throwing around stupid facts and comments about Gaby Sanchez.

Actually, I do. I don't know how that happened.

 

It always happens when point out flaws, just the way it is. I try to triple check my posts in such cases, just to make sure I don't look foolish.

 

 

The thing is though, when I said his paragraph is flawless, I didn't mean it in a grammatical way. He said his paragrpahs had so many holes, talking about baseball, yet he comes back throwing around stupid facts and comments about Gaby Sanchez.

I know what you meant, I just found it funny. Just bustin' your balls.

 

Also, to call those "facts" is an insult to anything near factual.

I want to contest the point made about leadoff batters and strikeouts. At no spot in the batting order (except maybe behind a slow catcher with a great OBP) is a strikeout less destructive than the leadoff spot. With so many of their at bats coming with the bases empty (or with pitchers on base, naturally cautious to taking extra bases), it makes no difference how they get out. An out is an out is an out. With few to no negative consequences for the baserunner.

Perhaps you intended to say strikeouts are bad for a player of his skill set. (I'll forgive the confusion; baseball people have encouraged all of us to automatically assume speedsters are best utilized as leadoff hitters despite consistent analysis in opposition of such narrow-minded thought.) But even then, I feel as though you may be concentrating on his speed rather than his entire skill set, much less his individual batting approach. I agree it is beneficial for a speedy player to put the ball into play and push the defense to throw him out or err trying. However, it may not be entirely beneficial for a player to revise their entire batting approach to do so, much less revise their approach toward the goal of avoiding a situation rather than actually accomplishing something.

 

Back to the main point: As the goal in any situation should be towards accomplishing something. The Marlins have a chance to, and EB may not be the best fit right now to help the team accomplish it.

I think just about everyone would agree that they would like someone else at 3b for the Marlins, but that for some reason that doesnt't include Fredi or Admin. This may again be a situation where this is the best they can afford, It can't cost too much to bring someone up from the minors? can it?

Seriously, is the OP Marlins1? It almost has to be.

 

 

wrong garlic breath just because you do it all the time with your aliases{a la Michael Jackson} you think everybody does it.

I think just about everyone would agree that they would like someone else at 3b for the Marlins, but that for some reason that doesnt't include Fredi or Admin. This may again be a situation where this is the best they can afford, It can't cost too much to bring someone up from the minors? can it?

 

 

Gee, ya think maybe there's not anyone in the minors who can play the position better than it is right now or that, I don't know, the President of Baseball Operations and the manager make better, more informed decisions than we do in the stands?

''I think Bonifacio is going to be like another Jose Reyes soon,'' said Texas Rangers All-Star Nelson Cruz, who has played with Bonifacio in the Dominican winter league for the past five years. ``People forget he's just starting. They need to be patient.''

 

Cruz is obviously right... actually, EB will probably be better than Reyes :whistle

 

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Right now, it's doubtful gaby would do better than boner.

 

But in the 50 or so game stretch where boner had a .500 ops, anyone couldve done better, and that's when the move shouldve been made. And no, just becaus Admin beinfest disagrees doesn't make it not true. Any stretch of a .500 ops is going to kill your team.

maybe we do need to be a little more patient with the guy. Everyone on here sure got to hating him real fast. He has struggled, no question, but I think with more time he will learn to work out the parts of this game that are lacking right now. He definitely has a lot of up side, if he can continue to improve on his plate discipline and get on base at a clip closer to .350-.400 I think it will benefit the team greatly. His defense is not a big concern, he is learning the position still and I think that will also improve with time. We as fans are quick to judge because we want results immediately , however, the organization obviously sees the potential in him and obviously think he is the best option we have right now for 3B. How about we try and get behind him instead of constantly bashing him, I for one, would love to see him improve and think he could be a great asset to this team.

I want to contest the point made about leadoff batters and strikeouts. At no spot in the batting order (except maybe behind a slow catcher with a great OBP) is a strikeout less destructive than the leadoff spot. With so many of their at bats coming with the bases empty (or with pitchers on base, naturally cautious to taking extra bases), it makes no difference how they get out. An out is an out is an out. With few to no negative consequences for the baserunner.

Perhaps you intended to say strikeouts are bad for a player of his skill set. (I'll forgive the confusion; baseball people have encouraged all of us to automatically assume speedsters are best utilized as leadoff hitters despite consistent analysis in opposition of such narrow-minded thought.) But even then, I feel as though you may be concentrating on his speed rather than his entire skill set, much less his individual batting approach. I agree it is beneficial for a speedy player to put the ball into play and push the defense to throw him out or err trying. However, it may not be entirely beneficial for a player to revise their entire batting approach to do so, much less revise their approach toward the goal of avoiding a situation rather than actually accomplishing something.

 

Back to the main point: As the goal in any situation should be towards accomplishing something. The Marlins have a chance to, and EB may not be the best fit right now to help the team accomplish it.

 

 

 

I agree with you there. I just don't think that Bonifacio's, with as many Ks as he has and a .304 on-base percentage, should be in a starting role, much less leading a contending team in at-bats. As you say, if an out, is an out, is an out, then you shouldn't have a guy that gets out so much leading your team in at-bats.