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just read that mike hampton will be missing the 2010 season due to left shoulder damage, including a torn rotator cuff. i'm kinda glad we (braves) didn't resign him after his awful contract was up after last year. i'm starting to think he was on steroids.

 

HOUSTON (AP)—Oft-injured Houston Astros pitcher Mike Hampton(notes) is already out for next year.

 

Hampton has undergone surgery for a torn left rotator cuff and other damage in his shoulder that will sideline him for the 2010 season, the team said Tuesday.

 

The 37-year-old lefty was 7-10 with a 5.30 ERA in 112 innings over 21 starts this season, his most in a year since making 29 starts in 2004 with Atlanta.

 

Hampton is 148-115 lifetime with a 4.07 ERA in 2,264 career innings despite spending considerable time on the disabled list with groin, calf, back and forearm problems.

 

Hampton left a game on Aug. 13 at Florida after five innings because of pain in his shoulder. He went on the disabled list the next day, and decided about two weeks later to have the surgery.

 

“It’s amazing that the guy was able to pitch this year,� Astros manager Cecil Cooper said in Cincinnati. “It saddens me to think he had that tear in there. I think if anybody can bounce back, it’s Mike. He’s done that a lot.�

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=ap-astros-hampton&prov=ap&type=lgns

He's gotta be done, right? I mean, he'll be 39 with a history of injury when he can come back, if he doesn't have a setback on the way.

So he retires tomorrow then?

He has to retire. He had an average career, and made tons of cash. Time to end it now.

No reason to have surgery if he plans to retire, so he's not retring

Time to make his comeback as a position player his 2001 season with the 7HR and .291 avg is better than most back-up catchers.

No reason to have surgery if he plans to retire, so he's not retring

 

 

A torn rotator cuff can often require surgery.

 

Also in answer to another comment, Hampton was significantly better than average.

No reason to have surgery if he plans to retire, so he's not retring

 

 

A torn rotator cuff can often require surgery.

 

Also in answer to another comment, Hampton was significantly better than average.

 

 

A long time ago. His career #'s, overall, aren't significantly better than average. A career 1.44 WHIP is nothing special.

No reason to have surgery if he plans to retire, so he's not retring

 

 

A torn rotator cuff can often require surgery.

 

I obviously can't speak speak of the severity of his injury but I have a torn rotator cuff and have done a lot of research on it plus asked a couple of doctors. Surgery is normally not recommended

 

There are times it is needed, so I did misspeak, but it is not often needed

 

I mean, if he continues to play baseball, then yes, he needs full strength of his shoulder. But you can get by with daily life without it.

A long time ago. His career #'s, overall, aren't significantly better than average. A career 1.44 WHIP is nothing special.

 

 

You want to be a stathead, and that's cool in all, but you need to look at them rather than just quote them.

 

WHIP is a fine stat, but it is not the be all and end all. Because there is more to pitching than OBA. If WHIP truly told the tale then the Dodgers always have the best pitching (Chavez Ravine anyone?)

 

I will agree with the statement "A long time ago" if you meant "pre-injury" because, before he got hurt, he was the sh*t. Just look at his seasons and you will find that his high WHIP years (obviously discounting his 17 IP Sept. call up) are either in Colorado (look at everyone's 2nd season starting there pre-humidor) or his injury year onward.

 

It is a shame he didn't have a legitimate chance to pitch the last 6 years injury-free. The man has almost 150 wins and only 6 injury-free seasons.

I mean, ignoring his rookie year and everything after Col, so 94-00, he still had a WHIP of 1.35. I agree with the assesment about WHIP, it's gotten vastly overrated, but since the discusion was about WHIPS, yeah. And I mean he put up pretty ERAs but that just comes down to how good you think base ERA is to telling what a pitchers true talent is. He had a 3.70 FIP during that time period, which is good but not even ace like. I mean yeah he did have the three year period where he put up ~3 ERA's but his FIPs those years were still in the upper 3. Maybe his talent transcended FIP? Possible but I doubt it.

No reason to have surgery if he plans to retire, so he's not retring

 

 

A torn rotator cuff can often require surgery.

 

Also in answer to another comment, Hampton was significantly better than average.

 

 

He was good for a little while, but not great, even if you include his .650 career OPS as a hitter.

A long time ago. His career #'s, overall, aren't significantly better than average. A career 1.44 WHIP is nothing special.

 

 

You want to be a stathead, and that's cool in all, but you need to look at them rather than just quote them.

 

WHIP is a fine stat, but it is not the be all and end all. Because there is more to pitching than OBA. If WHIP truly told the tale then the Dodgers always have the best pitching (Chavez Ravine anyone?)

 

I will agree with the statement "A long time ago" if you meant "pre-injury" because, before he got hurt, he was the sh*t. Just look at his seasons and you will find that his high WHIP years (obviously discounting his 17 IP Sept. call up) are either in Colorado (look at everyone's 2nd season starting there pre-humidor) or his injury year onward.

 

It is a shame he didn't have a legitimate chance to pitch the last 6 years injury-free. The man has almost 150 wins and only 6 injury-free seasons.

 

 

You said he was significantly better than average. All I said was "a long time ago" (true). And then I said a 1.44 WHIP does not really = significantly better than average. That is also true. Funny how you're allowed to mention stats (like your inherited runners statistic, which you totally overexaggerated the other day), yet when I use stats, I'm just a "stathead" who knows nothing, but quoting stats. Bravo. Try making your next post a bit less hypocritical.

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