Hanley put 20 line drives over the fence.

Just wanted to say congrats to our Superstar!

 

I'm so proud of Hanley's performance tonight. I gotta say, I got a bit nervous watching it unfold. And considering the Hanley wasn't even spoken about as any potential winner, we all have to be proud of how well he did on that stage. And he definitely proved his natural talent. Awesome!

Hanley's a line drive hitter who can hit the ball to all parts of the field. Much like Cano, and the Yankees already told Cano he wasn't allowed to participate. If Hanley's trying to hit HR's, he's going to struggle. It's the reason for his early struggles this year with .RISP. Trying to do too much at times, and it's even been mentioned by the hitting coaches here.

 

 

 

You were saying?

I've seen Hanley hit batting practice more times then I can remember and when it comes down to that last round where they all hit Homeruns he just flat out drills the ball over the fence.

My only concern with him was how long he could keep it up and he did alot better then most expect.

Congrats to Hanley and now I hope he's feeling better and has a monster 2nd half to get us back into the Playoff Race.

Hanley's a line drive hitter who can hit the ball to all parts of the field. Much like Cano, and the Yankees already told Cano he wasn't allowed to participate. If Hanley's trying to hit HR's, he's going to struggle. It's the reason for his early struggles this year with .RISP. Trying to do too much at times, and it's even been mentioned by the hitting coaches here.

 

 

 

You were saying?

I've seen Hanley hit batting practice more times then I can remember and when it comes down to that last round where they all hit Homeruns he just flat out drills the ball over the fence.

My only concern with him was how long he could keep it up and he did alot better then most expect.

Congrats to Hanley and now I hope he's feeling better and has a monster 2nd half to get us back into the Playoff Race.

 

 

I meant he's going to struggle if he starts swinging like that in real games. Not tonight.

There's always a lot of talk whether participating in the HR derby has an adverse impact on players. When ARod pulled out a couple of years ago because of this reason I remember Jayson Starks destroyed him an column. I guess Jayson needs to apologize.

 

http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/7/12/1556053/does-the-home-run-derby-adversely?ref=fangraphs

 

On the average players who participate in the HR derby fare worse in the 2nd half compared to how they fared in the 1st half. The average decline is .042 OPS points. Of the 79 participants, 57% declined the 2nd half.

 

 

Now that's an interesting find. I would have thought it was the opposite. Everybody talks about a particular player that went a little south after the competition, but no one talks about the other guys in it.

 

I mean, the decline could be on a number of things, like not getting the rest other players do because of all the festivities they partake in, wear and tear of a whole season, etc... But that's still an interesting tidbit.

 

Makes me wonder.....How did the other 43% fare?

There's always a lot of talk whether participating in the HR derby has an adverse impact on players. When ARod pulled out a couple of years ago because of this reason I remember Jayson Starks destroyed him an column. I guess Jayson needs to apologize.

 

http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/7/12/1556053/does-the-home-run-derby-adversely?ref=fangraphs

 

On the average players who participate in the HR derby fare worse in the 2nd half compared to how they fared in the 1st half. The average decline is .042 OPS points. Of the 79 participants, 57% declined the 2nd half.

 

 

Now that's an interesting find. I would have thought it was the opposite. Everybody talks about a particular player that went a little south after the competition, but no one talks about the other guys in it.

 

I mean, the decline could be on a number of things, like not getting the rest other players do because of all the festivities they partake in, wear and tear of a whole season, etc... But that's still an interesting tidbit.

 

Makes me wonder.....How did the other 43% fare?

 

We'd have to compare how these players did versus the rest of the All-Stars and all players. My hunch is we see somewhat of a regression to the mean for all All-Star players (including Derby participants). It is also possible that players in general see a decline in performance in the second half because they are worn out by then. I am not sure that the finding above is statistically significant.

We'd have to compare how these players did versus the rest of the All-Stars and all players. My hunch is we see somewhat of a regression to the mean for all All-Star players (including Derby participants). It is also possible that players in general see a decline in performance in the second half because they are worn out by then. I am not sure that the finding above is statistically significant.

 

Per the article:

 

Before coming to a definitive conclusion, I needed to find out whether hitters in general declined in the second half (perhaps due to fatigue). They did not. The average major league OPS (from 2000-'09) entering the break was .760. The second half average was .759. (The exact difference is -.00092.).

There's always a lot of talk whether participating in the HR derby has an adverse impact on players. When ARod pulled out a couple of years ago because of this reason I remember Jayson Starks destroyed him an column. I guess Jayson needs to apologize.

 

http://www.pinstripe...http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/7/12/1556053/does-the-home-run-derby-adversely?ref=fangraphs

 

On the average players who participate in the HR derby fare worse in the 2nd half compared to how they fared in the 1st half. The average decline is .042 OPS points. Of the 79 participants, 57% declined the 2nd half.

 

 

Now that's an interesting find. I would have thought it was the opposite. Everybody talks about a particular player that went a little south after the competition, but no one talks about the other guys in it.

 

I mean, the decline could be on a number of things, like not getting the rest other players do because of all the festivities they partake in, wear and tear of a whole season, etc... But that's still an interesting tidbit.

 

Makes me wonder.....How did the other 43% fare?

 

We'd have to compare how these players did versus the rest of the All-Stars and all players. My hunch is we see somewhat of a regression to the mean for all All-Star players (including Derby participants). It is also possible that players in general see a decline in performance in the second half because they are worn out by then. I am not sure that the finding above is statistically significant.

 

Now you're speaking my language. Everyone likes to throw out stats (which is fine, I'm an Economist and I love numbers, and part of baseball is the numbers), but they forget to put them in context or realize when we're talking about an individual's statsistics, they are statisically insignificant to the population (all of MLB).

 

To me before we place a causal relationship to the Derby and 2nd half slides, we'd also have to compare the derby participants' 2nd half numbers to every other one of their seasons. Everyone talks about certain players being notorious "slow starters;" perhaps these 57% of derby participants are just "slow finnishers."

I honestly didn't think he was going to do near as good as he did last night. I was really impressed. I know Hanley has plenty of power but I just thought he would hit 6-7 and end up mosty hitting line drives. You never know how guys are gonna do,look at Hart he mashed it in the first rd then didn't hit another one after that.

 

Hanley will still end up over .300 for the season and probably 25 HR's or so I believe. I just don't think he's going to close out the yr with with a 330+ avg like last year.

 

Hopefully he'll get a hold of one tonight during the game and send one out towards left.

We'd have to compare how these players did versus the rest of the All-Stars and all players. My hunch is we see somewhat of a regression to the mean for all All-Star players (including Derby participants). It is also possible that players in general see a decline in performance in the second half because they are worn out by then. I am not sure that the finding above is statistically significant.

 

Per the article:

 

Before coming to a definitive conclusion, I needed to find out whether hitters in general declined in the second half (perhaps due to fatigue). They did not. The average major league OPS (from 2000-'09) entering the break was .760. The second half average was .759. (The exact difference is -.00092.).

 

Not enough. It is better to compare those declines to those of All-Stars.

 

In addition, I can't say that the differences are statistically significant. My hunch is they are not, but of course that's only a hunch.

There's always a lot of talk whether participating in the HR derby has an adverse impact on players. When ARod pulled out a couple of years ago because of this reason I remember Jayson Starks destroyed him an column. I guess Jayson needs to apologize.

 

http://www.pinstripe...http://www.pinstripealley.com/2010/7/12/1556053/does-the-home-run-derby-adversely?ref=fangraphs

 

On the average players who participate in the HR derby fare worse in the 2nd half compared to how they fared in the 1st half. The average decline is .042 OPS points. Of the 79 participants, 57% declined the 2nd half.

 

 

Now that's an interesting find. I would have thought it was the opposite. Everybody talks about a particular player that went a little south after the competition, but no one talks about the other guys in it.

 

I mean, the decline could be on a number of things, like not getting the rest other players do because of all the festivities they partake in, wear and tear of a whole season, etc... But that's still an interesting tidbit.

 

Makes me wonder.....How did the other 43% fare?

 

We'd have to compare how these players did versus the rest of the All-Stars and all players. My hunch is we see somewhat of a regression to the mean for all All-Star players (including Derby participants). It is also possible that players in general see a decline in performance in the second half because they are worn out by then. I am not sure that the finding above is statistically significant.

 

Now you're speaking my language. Everyone likes to throw out stats (which is fine, I'm an Economist and I love numbers, and part of baseball is the numbers), but they forget to put them in context or realize when we're talking about an individual's statsistics, they are statisically insignificant to the population (all of MLB).

 

To me before we place a causal relationship to the Derby and 2nd half slides, we'd also have to compare the derby participants' 2nd half numbers to every other one of their seasons. Everyone talks about certain players being notorious "slow starters;" perhaps these 57% of derby participants are just "slow finnishers."

 

Absolutely. I agree 100%.

 

To take it even further, we can compare to other players (or All-Stars) that put up similar numbers in the first half.