November 26, 200322 yr C Pudge (Eventually Boras and Pudge realize no one is willing to pay him money he seeks) 1b Choi 2b Castillo 3b Lowell SS Gonzales LF Conine CF Pierre RF Cabrera The entire starting pitching staff will be back and AJ will most likely be closer when he is back.
November 26, 200322 yr C Pudge (Eventually Boras and Pudge realize no one is willing to pay him money he seeks) 1b Choi 2b Castillo 3b Lowell LF Conine CF Pierre RF Cabrera The entire starting pitching staff will be back and AJ will most likely be closer when he is back. can i play SS?
November 26, 200322 yr Author C Pudge (Eventually Boras and Pudge realize no one is willing to pay him money he seeks) 1b Choi 2b Castillo 3b Lowell LF Conine CF Pierre RF Cabrera The entire starting pitching staff will be back and AJ will most likely be closer when he is back. can i play SS? Umm Of course Alex will be back playing SS..
November 26, 200322 yr C Pudge (Eventually Boras and Pudge realize no one is willing to pay him money he seeks) 1b Choi 2b Castillo 3b Lowell LF Conine CF Pierre RF Cabrera The entire starting pitching staff will be back and AJ will most likely be closer when he is back. can i play SS? Umm Of course Alex will be back playing SS.. I'll be very very happy man is this happens
November 26, 200322 yr Author Pudge is not coming back, whether he is $8 Mill a year or not. what makes you think that?If he doesn't command the type of money he seeks and is offer contract similar to Marlins offer,why would he leave S.Florida?
November 26, 200322 yr Author Anyways... I just think eventuially Pudge will come down to earth if not I really could care less since I think Castro can get the job done.
November 26, 200322 yr here's all i'll venture to say for now: pudge castillo lowell 2 of those 3 men will be back. enc is gone. redman penny pavano 2 of those 3 men will be back. all other SPs are safe. uggy is 100% gone. i don't know what the deal is with loop, but i think he'll be back. the rest of the bench and the bullpen is really anybody's guess at this point.
November 26, 200322 yr If he doesn't command the type of money he seeks and is offer contract similar to Marlins offer,why would he leave S.Florida? Maybe because Admin Beinfest doesn't want Pudge. We have to offer him a deal before he can accept one.
November 26, 200322 yr Author here's all i'll venture to say for now: pudge castillo lowell 2 of those 3 men will be back. enc is gone. redman penny pavano 2 of those 3 men will be back. all other SPs are safe. uggy is 100% gone. i don't know what the deal is with loop, but i think he'll be back. the rest of the bench and the bullpen is really anybody's guess at this point. I can agree with you...Who will be the fifth starter?
November 26, 200322 yr Author If he doesn't command the type of money he seeks and is offer contract similar to Marlins offer,why would he leave S.Florida? Maybe because Admin Beinfest doesn't want Pudge. We have to offer him a deal before he can accept one. Reason why we haven't offer one because he is demanding too much than what Marlins brass is willing to pay.Now you can read people minds since you're saying Beinfest doesn't want him back?The Marlins are just sitting back and waiting to see how the Market treats Pudge and not willing to cave in which is great move by Beinfest.
November 26, 200322 yr Reason why we haven't offer one because he is demanding too much than what Marlins brass is willing to pay.Now you can read people minds since you're saying Beinfest doesn't want him back?The Marlins are just sitting back and waiting to see how the Market treats Pudge and not willing to cave in which is great move by Beinfest. If Beinfest or Loria wanted him, they'd have an offer on the table right now, despite the rest of the market (exmple: Lowell and Castillo).
November 26, 200322 yr Reason why we haven't offer one because he is demanding too much than what Marlins brass is willing to pay.Now you can read people minds since you're saying Beinfest doesn't want him back?The Marlins are just sitting back and waiting to see how the Market treats Pudge and not willing to cave in which is great move by Beinfest. If Beinfest or Loria wanted him, they'd have an offer on the table right now, despite the rest of the market (exmple: Lowell and Castillo). The reason that a formal offer isn't on the table is that they are too far appart right now. I think Pudge will come down to the Marlins level, unless someone out there pull a Steinbraindamage and they can have him for the price he is asking.
November 26, 200322 yr Author Reason why we haven't offer one because he is demanding too much than what Marlins brass is willing to pay.Now you can read people minds since you're saying Beinfest doesn't want him back?The Marlins are just sitting back and waiting to see how the Market treats Pudge and not willing to cave in which is great move by Beinfest. If Beinfest or Loria wanted him, they'd have an offer on the table right now, despite the rest of the market (exmple: Lowell and Castillo). Why should put an offer on the table ?It will be a bad strategy to put out the numbers they are willing to pay Pudge and set a starting market price for him.I think they are just letting Boras and Pudge advertise themselve asking 10 mil.They are just waiting to see how market going ot treat Pudge before they make an offer.
November 26, 200322 yr They are just waiting to see how market going ot treat Pudge before they make an offer. If that's their strategy, how come they're not doing the same thing for Castillo?
November 26, 200322 yr Reason why we haven't offer one because he is demanding too much than what Marlins brass is willing to pay.Now you can read people minds since you're saying Beinfest doesn't want him back?The Marlins are just sitting back and waiting to see how the Market treats Pudge and not willing to cave in which is great move by Beinfest. If Beinfest or Loria wanted him, they'd have an offer on the table right now, despite the rest of the market (exmple: Lowell and Castillo). Why should put an offer on the table ?It will be a bad strategy to put out the numbers they are willing to pay Pudge and set a starting market price for him.I think they are just letting Boras and Pudge advertise themselve asking 10 mil.They are just waiting to see how market going ot treat Pudge before they make an offer. excellent point :thumbup Why put the cards on the table now and let Boras use it for leverage with other teams? Don't worry, Boras will be calling Beinfest on December 6.
November 26, 200322 yr here's all i'll venture to say for now: pudge castillo lowell 2 of those 3 men will be back. enc is gone. redman penny pavano 2 of those 3 men will be back. all other SPs are safe. uggy is 100% gone. i don't know what the deal is with loop, but i think he'll be back. the rest of the bench and the bullpen is really anybody's guess at this point. I can agree with you...Who will be the fifth starter? that's a huuuge question mark, which i can't really figure out to tell you the truth. we really don't have a reliable #5 starter. i don't know how phelps would do, tejera makes me gag, and helling really isn't worth signing for his mediocre starting ability. my guess is, finding a decent SP should be pretty high in our offseason priority list along with upgrading the bullpen. to tell you the truth, i don't really see how easily we can procure a "decent" SP considering how little he would have to be paid. ideas, anyone?
November 26, 200322 yr Why put the cards on the table now and let Boras use it for leverage with other teams? What if the offer was 3-years $18 Million? Can't really use that for leverage, can you? If the Marlins TRUELY wanted Pudge, there would be SOME kind of offer on the table.
November 26, 200322 yr If that's their strategy, how come they're not doing the same thing for Castillo? Teams are much more interested in Castillo, since he's the best second baseman on the market. When teams look at catchers, Pudge is the second best choice behind Javy Lopez, who had way better numbers than him. I agree with the team's stance on Pudge so far. He's asking too much. I believe that eventually he'll settle for the Marlins' offer.
November 26, 200322 yr You cant really wait around on the market for pudge. If he doesnt sign by dec 7th the marlins cant make a offer til may.
November 26, 200322 yr I believe that eventually he'll settle for the Marlins' offer. Which is? Yet to be determined. Assuming they even make an offer.
November 26, 200322 yr here's all i'll venture to say for now: pudge castillo lowell 2 of those 3 men will be back. enc is gone. redman penny pavano 2 of those 3 men will be back. all other SPs are safe. uggy is 100% gone.? i don't know what the deal is with loop, but i think he'll be back. the rest of the bench and the bullpen is really anybody's guess at this point. I can agree with you...Who will be the fifth starter? that's a huuuge question mark, which i can't really figure out to tell you the truth. we really don't have a reliable #5 starter. i don't know how phelps would do, tejera makes me gag, and helling really isn't worth signing for his mediocre starting ability. my guess is, finding a decent SP should be pretty high in our offseason priority list along with upgrading the bullpen. to tell you the truth, i don't really see how easily we can procure a "decent" SP considering how little he would have to be paid. ideas, anyone? If it comes to this then I wouldn't be too worried if Phelps stepped into that role until AJ comes back. You have to remember in May & June Phelps was pretty damn solid in the starting role.
November 26, 200322 yr I am pretty sure Boras and Rodriguez are aware of what the Marlin offer is.... whether a formal offer has been made or not really is meaningless. the ballpark figure is already well known. dont make it sound like beinfest doesnt want Pudge back.....that is not true.
November 26, 200322 yr You cant really wait around on the market for pudge. If he doesnt sign by dec 7th the marlins cant make a offer til may. Well, i'm sure they're very aware of this.
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