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2012: The Issues

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My precinct was at a Presbyterian church, and I was very upset with the way things played out.

 

At the door of the church, they were handing out religious pamphlets to everyone who walked into the door. The church workers were taking advantage of the fact that their church was a polling station.

My precinct was at a Presbyterian church, and I was very upset with the way things played out.

 

At the door of the church, they were handing out religious pamphlets to everyone who walked into the door. The church workers were taking advantage of the fact that their church was a polling station.

 

 

Mine took advantage that it as in the ghetto. They almost intimidated me into voting.

Mine was in an elementary school. Like **** learning, right?

My precinct was at a Presbyterian church, and I was very upset with the way things played out.

 

At the door of the church, they were handing out religious pamphlets to everyone who walked into the door. The church workers were taking advantage of the fact that their church was a polling station.

 

That's probably against some rules somewhere....

I imagined it was, but they had cookies and apple juice so I pretended like I didn't see it.

 

LOL.

 

I never liked voting taking place in churches; I feel it adds pressure to vote in accordance with one's religious beliefs when one otherwise might not have.

Youre missing a key aspect of the way the Senate works. If the dems retain a majority, as it is clearly looking like they will, no Romney tax plan can come to the floor for a 50 person vote without Harry Reid letting it come to the floor. The party leaders control what is or isn't voted on. So even if you got 2-3 dems to back all republicans, no way Reid lets Romney get a plan on the floor that most dems would oppose.

 

Odds are pretty good that we wind up with an R majority of 52 or 53. But, let's say that doesn't happen. If there are 50 or more votes for tax reform it can be done. You pass it in the House, Romney, having the bully pulpit talks about it and Democrat refusal to bring it up every single day, and the Senate is brought to a stand-still by refusing to conduct any unanimous consent business at all by demanding roll call votes on everything, and by any number of other procedural methods of slowing things down until the bill is brought to the floor.

 

Public opinion can be brought to bear over time and force Reid's hand. Not to mention that there are 20 Ds up for re-election in 2014 and only 8 of them are "safe" seats. That's going to provide a lot of internal pressure in the D caucus. And not to mention that a new President enjoys some sort of "honeymoon" period with Congress and the public.

 

If all of that fails, you could easily be looking at 55 to 60 Rs in the Senate after the 2014 election because the Ds will be hammered relentlessly on it all the way to 2014. It's going to get done one way or another.

 

 

I'm still trying to figure out where you had the Republicans getting 52 or 53 Senate seats.

Obviously didn't happen because Romney fell about 5 points short. 2014 will be a different story.

I may be wrong, in which case you can all laugh at me, but the numbers say Romney will give us a popular and electoral vote blowout.

 

 

Welp.

I may be wrong, in which case you can all laugh at me, but the numbers say Romney will give us a popular and electoral vote blowout. Which apparently nobody else around here expects.

 

 

 

HAHAHA.

 

Dumbass.

When will you young 'uns learn?

 

You can't have an economic illiterate in charge for 8 years and not pay a heavy price. You thought the economy was crap for the last 4 years? You ain't seen nothing yet. Bend over, 'cause here comes 4 more years of it.

Obviously didn't happen because Romney fell about 5 points short. 2014 will be a different story.

 

 

No. The GOP lost the Senate seats largely due to them shooting themselves in the foot.

 

See Akin, Todd.

See Mourdock, Robert

 

Has nothing to do with Romney. The GOP won Indiana and Missouri rather easily in the Presidental race.

When will you young 'uns learn?

 

You can't have an economic illiterate in charge for 8 years and not pay a heavy price. You thought the economy was crap for the last 4 years? You ain't seen nothing yet. Bend over, 'cause here comes 4 more years of it.

 

 

That's not really what people are laughing at. You're lack of self-awareness is impressive.

 

But nothing like age-based chauvinism to drive a point home.

 

Like, maybe you'll be right about the next four years. I have no way of knowing. But that's not really the point. You were hilariously wrong about tonight. Like, in a major way. In a way that kind of kills any credibility you might have. And then you decided to condescend to people who called you out for it.

Sorry, I don't measure credibility by what a bunch of 20 year-olds think.

 

Tonight's result was a huge disappointment, I though America was smarter than this. Obviously, I was wrong. But, it's no skin off my ass, I've been comfortably retired since I was 30. And that's a long time.

 

The problems will mount in the next 4 years, and will continue to be the problem of those who are now exultant that they elected someone who will continue to screw up their future.

 

It's really unfortunate, but I simply don't give a crap. I'm perfectly happy to wait for the backlash 2 and 4 years from now when people finally wake up to reality. If they never wake up, then we're really screwed, a la Greece. Free lunch can only go on for so long. Borrowing or printing 4 billion dollars each and every day can't go on forever.

 

What can't be sustained, won't be. What can't go on forever, won't. Simple as that.

Also, to tonight wasn't a "huge disappointment." You were just wrong. In a pretty hilarious manner, given how much certainty you expressed in your "numbers."

 

I also think its pretty hilarious that, in your desire to write off anyone and everyone who disagrees with you, you seem to have missed that the fella who originally laughed at you arguably doubled as the most vocal proponent of not voting for Obama on this board in the run-up to the election.

 

Dr. B seems to have no love lost for Obama. You're only assuming he supports Obama because anyone who sees what is plainly in front of their nose (that your "numbers" were hilarious) obviously has to be an Obama supporter.

 

It's a damn good thing you don't care about credibility here, because you have none.

Ah, I made no assumptions about anyone.

 

I said you can laugh at me if I was wrong, and so you have. Problem is, 4 years from now, nobody is going to be laughing.

2016: The Year of No Laughter

The republican party now is like the democratic party from 1972-1988. They simply cant understand why the majority does not want to adopt their platform, and they continue to get beat on the presidential stage. Back then, democrats voters who didnt support them stupid also. They said they would reap what they sow.

 

It took someone like Bill Clinton to come in and shut down the more ideaological suicide wing of the party. Now everything has shifted. I dont know if it will happen in 2016, but at some point, a centrist, pro gay marriage, pro choice anti-extremist candidate will emerge from the right.

Ah, I made no assumptions about anyone.

 

I said you can laugh at me if I was wrong, and so you have. Problem is, 4 years from now, nobody is going to be laughing.

 

 

You were so fundamentally wrong about this election. I would think you would have some level of humility and question your own arrogant sense of brilliance.

I dont know if it will happen in 2016, but at some point, a centrist, pro gay marriage, pro choice anti-extremist candidate will emerge from the right.

 

 

agreed, but might be a while. Jon Huntsman was basically laughed out of the race.

I dont know if it will happen in 2016, but at some point, a centrist, pro gay marriage, pro choice anti-extremist candidate will emerge from the right.

 

 

agreed, but might be a while. Jon Huntsman was basically laughed out of the race.

 

Laughed out of the race, guys like Ron Paul are simply ideologists in the race, and the realists like Gary Johnson are silenced quick and early.

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