Can someone please calculate the teams current payroll so we can clearify how much Beinfest has left to spend, and we can make realistic goals for getting certain people?

nope.

 

you have a cal do it yourself

 

anway, some have their payroll at $47, im at $49(counting Loop at $2.5per)

and I'm at $56-58 mil including deferrals post arbitration

and I'm at $56-58 mil including deferrals post arbitration

that seems a little high

I did a quick estimate with A Gon a 2.5 per, Looper at 2.5 per and some mininum 300k salaries being raised to 500k

 

includes all starters with raises except for red (which could be filled by tejera, phelps which i did include)

 

includes a roster of basically only two relievers that dont suck (looper and fox)

 

includes 10 mill extra in deferred crap

 

with leaves me with a figure similar to ramp's

 

total 48 million with 12 mill left to spend

I did a quick estimate with A Gon a 2.5 per, Looper at 2.5 per and some mininum 300k salaries being raised to 500k

 

includes all starters with raises except for red (which could be filled by tejera, phelps which i did include)

 

includes a roster of basically only two relievers that dont suck (looper and fox)

 

includes 10 mill extra in deferred crap

 

with leaves me with a figure similar to ramp's

 

total 48 million with 12 mill left to spend

i think this is pretty close according to my rought calculations. Doesn't leave a lot for Vlad but probably just enough for Javy or (Pudge when he comes crawling back on May 1).

Doesn't leave a lot for Vlad but probably just enough for Javy or (Pudge when he comes crawling back on May 1).

That one makes me feel all warm inside, kind of like the girl that you ask to the prom, but she turns you down thinking she can do better, then as the big day approaches, she's dateless and desperate and you are tellin the skank that she can pay for her own ticket and share of the limo... I hope if Pudge doesn't get any good offers the fish stick it to him and Scott Boras, by reducing their offer.

anyone know how much cash the Fish would get from the Redman deal, should they decide to opt for cash rather than a PTBNL? Would it be enough to have a noticable impact on the amount we have left to spend this year?

i dont see it being more than $1mil

well in a world where Vlad would turn down a $15 million dollar deal, but consider a $17 million dollar deal, $1 mill could make a difference!

includes a roster of basically only two relievers that dont suck (looper and fox)

For the last damn time.....MICHAEL NEU DOES NOT SUCK

i dont see it being more than $1mil

That still brings the money gained from the deal (plus total savings) to about 3 mil.

then if they have about 13 million to spend, loria just needs to come up with about 2-4 million in "special money" to sign vlad........... come on loria! i know it would boost fan support!!!!!!!!!

then if they have about 13 million to spend, loria just needs to come up with about 2-4 million in "special money" to sign vlad........... come on loria! i know it would boost fan support!!!!!!!!!

per year

yea but the extra fan support can pay it off

we just a won a f***ing WS.... the fan support will be there

we just a won a f***ing WS.... the fan support will be there

With the mood around the place since we won, you wouldn't be able to tell.

Neu looks good.

itll be there if it doesnt look like some sort of mini fire sale...

 

if the fans turn on the news every night and see another player has been traded away, i'm sure itll bring back memories of 97

yea fan support is there, but it would be even better if they can sign VLAD because people are starting to grumble about loosing all the players we have lost in the past 2 weeks!

Our Bullpen as of today:

 

Chad Fox

Michael Neu

Tommy Phelps

Tim Spooneybarger (DL)

Armando Almanza

Nate Bump

Toby Borland

Blaine Neal

Michael Tejera

Justin Wanye

Fox -> Reliable

Neu -> Stud in the making

Phelps -> We saw what he could do last season

Almanza -> Please, no

Bump -> Showed some nice stuff but tailed off at the end, I look for him to get back to form

Borland -> He is solid

Neal -> I look for him to go back to his rookie status, not his sophmore slump

Tejera -> If only he had control.....

Wayne -> We'll see, I guess

 

 

We aren't as bad off as you guys think.

and I'm at $56-58 mil including deferrals post arbitration

that seems a little high

from Mike Berardino:

 

"With an approved payroll of no more than $60 million, the Marlins were able to slice about $7 million with the Lee trade. It would have cost about $88 million to keep the World Series champions intact."

 

Link

 

$88 MILLION

 

-10.0 Pudge

-7.50 Lee ($7.5 Lee minus 500k Choi = the $7 mil # in the article)

-3.25 Redman

-5.50 Enc

-4.50 Uggie

 

= $ 57.25 MILLION

 

As I was saying, my numbers post arbitration and including deferrals is $56-58 million and I stand by that. I don't think some of you appreciate or are taking into account how much of a jump fourth and fifth year arb eligible players get and how the excessive contracts of the past four-five years will affect arb $$$.

I don't think certain people here take into account that more often than not arbitrators rule in favor of the teams.....

I don't think certain people here take into account that more often than not arbitrators rule in favor of the teams.....

 

So you think an arbitrator is going to look at Beckett, Penny, Looper, Pavano and Gonzalez, and even Looper, and not find in their favor?

 

Maybe AJ, but really depends on what number he asks for.

 

You're dreaming. :banghead

Basicly the team has 4 mil free ?

 

hmmm

 

3 out of those 4 mil might go Benitez ? Hell no....