November 21, 20187 yr 2.4 WAR 1.5 WAR .8 WAR that was bitten because he shouldn't be OFer For a team that really sucks, this is a really bad move
November 21, 20187 yr 2.4 WAR 1.5 WAR .8 WAR that was bitten because he shouldn't be OFer For a team that really sucks, this is a really bad move I think they could have gotten a bullpen arm, but its abundantly clear you can get those 1b/corner OF types for very cheap and this years free agency might make last years look like a players market. Teams seem to be getting smarter and smarter about the surplus value of a guy like dietrich relative to another replacement level guy you can find.
November 21, 20187 yr That’s debatable. He had starters PA for three years because of things like Gordon PEDs Prado injuries and last year selloffs. He’s not starting for a playoff team Well he doesn't have to be a starter on a playoff team. I mean for gods sake, Bour got traded and Dietrich is a far more useful player especially off the bench. They've both had similiar career highs in WAR and dietrich is younger and more versatile. So yeah, I still think he was a solid trade piece worth at least a project minor leaguer. They just let him go for nothing...
November 21, 20187 yr I think they could have gotten a bullpen arm, but its abundantly clear you can get those 1b/corner OF types for very cheap and this years free agency might make last years look like a players market. Teams seem to be getting smarter and smarter about the surplus value of a guy like dietrich relative to another replacement level guy you can find. DD plays average to above average 3b/2b. He's terrible in the OF which is why he's not mid 1s WAR this year
November 21, 20187 yr Well he doesn't have to be a starter on a playoff team. I mean for gods sake, Bour got traded and Dietrich is a far more useful player especially off the bench. They've both had similiar career highs in WAR and dietrich is younger and more versatile. So yeah, I still think he was a solid trade piece worth at least a project minor leaguer. They just let him go for nothing... he's absolutely a Left hand utility guy on any WS bench (Bour no versatility)
November 21, 20187 yr 2.4 WAR 1.5 WAR .8 WAR that was bitten because he shouldn't be OFer For a team that really sucks, this is a really bad move my point exactly.
November 21, 20187 yr DD plays average to above average 3b/2b. He's terrible in the OF which is why he's not mid 1s WAR this year Youre severely overrating his ability at 2b/3b. He might be average there, but he is in no way above average and he has not graded out positively at any position in his career according to fangraphs. He is the perfect DH/platoon guy for an AL team like oakland, but for a team like us given his arbitration status he might just be the type of player who had no value across the league when you look at what you will be able to get 1b/corner OF guys for again this offseason.
November 21, 20187 yr oic DD was due $4.8m. this is a rays move without rays foresight The rays have won over 90 games 6 times since 2008, perhaps we should be making more rays moves as a small market team.
November 21, 20187 yr i mean prado has been far worse and the only reason prado is still around is because his contract is enormous and unmovable and he's a good veteran to have around young guys.
November 21, 20187 yr Youre severely overrating his ability at 2b/3b. He might be average there, but he is in no way above average and he has not graded out positively at any position in his career according to fangraphs. He is the perfect DH/platoon guy for an AL team like oakland, but for a team like us given his arbitration status he might just be the type of player who had no value across the league when you look at what you will be able to get 1b/corner OF guys for again this offseason. m8 check his def WAR on Fangraphs when he was an IFer - the same Fangraphs that a lot of mlb front offices uses. He WAS above average at IF in 2016 and slightly below avg in 2017 in IF. He was horrible in the OF.
November 21, 20187 yr The rays have won over 90 games 6 times since 2008, perhaps we should be making more rays moves as a small market team. difference is they turn pitching prospects into gold left and right where all of ours get hurt/TJ
November 21, 20187 yr I sure hope Dietrich wasn't looking forward to wearing the new stuff. He could still buy it and wear it right?
November 21, 20187 yr Anyway it doesn't really matter. It's clearly a salary move only. I liked DD a lot as a marlin and hope he does great wherever he lands!
November 21, 20187 yr Guys if anyone wanted Dietrich he would've been traded last year. He was a clear non-tender heading into '19 and they probably would've taken anything (like they did with Bour).
November 21, 20187 yr Guys if anyone wanted Dietrich he would've been traded last year. He was a clear non-tender heading into '19 and they probably would've taken anything (like they did with Bour). this is probably, but he was better 1st half and can play 2b/3b. I don't give them benefit of the doubt tho because they clearly could have moved claw for something of value
November 21, 20187 yr m8 check his def WAR on Fangraphs when he was an IFer - the same Fangraphs that a lot of mlb front offices uses. He WAS above average at IF in 2016 and slightly below avg in 2017 in IF. He was horrible in the OF. exactly, thats about average and again, he is a career .750 OPS guy in a league that is clearly finding it easier and easier to find for much cheaper than 5 million. I mean CJ Cron hit 30 hr's last year and OPS'ed over .800 and got DFA'd. These types of players just arent as valued as they used to be.
November 21, 20187 yr exactly, thats about average and again, he is a career .750 OPS guy in a league that is clearly finding it easier and easier to find for much cheaper than 5 million. I mean CJ Cron hit 30 hr's last year and OPS'ed over .800 and got DFA'd. These types of players just arent as valued as they used to be. 1 WAR in today's game = $9m
November 21, 20187 yr exactly, thats about average and again, he is a career .750 OPS guy in a league that is clearly finding it easier and easier to find for much cheaper than 5 million. I mean CJ Cron hit 30 hr's last year and OPS'ed over .800 and got DFA'd. These types of players just arent as valued as they used to be. IE Rays move it was a bad one. Dickerson was 3.0 WAR last year, 1 WAR more than his replacement (Cron)
November 21, 20187 yr DD can competently play 2b/3b there's nothing in his career that says otherwise. He's not cron/bour
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