December 20, 200322 yr The Sun-Sentinel seems to think this is a possibilty..... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basebal...-sports-marlins
December 20, 200322 yr The Sun-Sentinel seems to think this is a possibilty..... http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/basebal...-sports-marlins In need of a fifth starter, the Marlins will take a look at non-tendered Expos pitcher Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez. The right-hander missed all of last season with a shoulder injury.
December 20, 200322 yr I think the AJ question makes El Duque more attractive to the Marlins. His age would scare away most teams, but if we get him cheap enough, we only need him for a couple months. After that, we can put him into the pen for mid-relief, reduce the wear and tear on him arm, and make our pen stronger.
December 20, 200322 yr I think the AJ question makes El Duque more attractive to the Marlins. His age would scare away most teams, but if we get him cheap enough, we only need him for a couple months. After that, we can put him into the pen for mid-relief, reduce the wear and tear on him arm, and make our pen stronger. Good idea......Can he bring Livan here as well????
December 20, 200322 yr If he comes cheap, the Marlins would like to make Orlando Hernandez their fifth starter. The Giants, Orioles and Rangers are among the other teams that figure to have interest in El Duque, who was non-tendered yesterday. /rotoworld
December 20, 200322 yr I know that Livan dream is to play for the marlins with his brother. So it is possible El Duque could take a paycut to play down here.
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL. Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason.
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL. Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?!
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL. Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?! http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaor01.shtml born october in 1965!!!
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL.? Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?! http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaor01.shtml born october in 1965!!! I thought he was 34!
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL.? Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?! http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaor01.shtml born october in 1965!!! Everywhere else I looked it said 69. Here's his player page on espn.com El Duque
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL.? Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?! http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaor01.shtml born october in 1965!!! Everywhere else I looked it said 69. Here's his player page on espn.com El Duque Thats what I thought, thanks Fran... :thumbup
December 20, 200322 yr He's 38, is bitten by the injury bug, and came of a season on the DL.? Definitely a gamble and not the greatest of pitchers to begin with- besides the postseason. El Duque isn't 38!?! http://www.baseball-reference.com/h/hernaor01.shtml born october in 1965!!! Everywhere else I looked it said 69. Here's his player page on espn.com El Duque Thats what I thought, thanks Fran... :thumbup those latin american guys ages sure are tricky: they cant even keep track of um for 14 years. i.e. Danny Almonte
December 20, 200322 yr He lied about his age, duh! His wife from cuba divorced him releasing his real age. http://www.yanks-suck.com/elduque1.php real legal documents^^^
December 20, 200322 yr He lied about his age, duh! His wife from cuba divorced him releasing his real age. http://www.yanks-suck.com/elduque1.php real legal documents^^^ I don't believe that because all the other sites would've changed it. In any case he would still be a good pickup for us.
December 21, 200322 yr I would like to see El Duque Play here. Perfect for our #5 starter while AJ is out. He can then go to the Pen also, and help us there.
December 21, 200322 yr baseballreference.com seems to trust the real cuban documents, I do too. We all know he was lying about his age to begin with, him being 38 just makes sense too. He's 38, I'd bet my life on it, well, if I won a lot in return, yeah, I would bet my life on it. In black and white, it's not a lie.
December 21, 200322 yr People, let me just say that I saw Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez pitch for the first time when I was 8 or 9 years old. The guy started at the age of 18 or 19 in Cuban baseball. I am 28 right now, so you do the math... 38 would seem a pretty good bet. I also saw Livan's debut in Cuba and he didn't last 4 innings, my old hometown team pulverized him in the fifth so bad... Going back to the topic, it would be a good thing if we can sign him cheap and then use him as our long reliever. The guy is old but he knows a world about pitching and that always helps. However, I would also love to have Redman back...
December 22, 200322 yr My pitching coach was el duque's trainer back in cuba,and they are still very good friends,im'a ask him what el duque thinks bout coming to the marlins.(i'll ask him one of these days,gotta wait,lol).
December 22, 200322 yr When El Duque is able to stay healthy he's as good as any pitcher in baseball, his problem is that he usually can't keep healthy for more than 3 games at a time. He's close to 40 and he's arm was greatly abused in Cuba. I remembered him pitching the 7th game of the 1994 cuban championship serios on 2 days rest. I think at this point in his carreer he can become a closer and be a domminant one for a few years.
December 22, 200322 yr I'd rather see Nate Bump or Justin Wayne (if he can EVER do it) cover the # 5 spot until AJ is able. Use the $1MM or so to be spent on a # 5 starter for a SCott Sauerbeck...a nice lefty for the pen. Overtime, we will have the # 5 starter in AJ or one of the minor leaguers. So let's not waste it on a one-year filler....let's make the pen as solid as can be.
December 22, 200322 yr i believe the rumors concerning el duque's age... i've seen tons of references to it online. here are a couple. from baseball library: http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlib...dez_Orlando.stm Mystery has surrounded Hernandez since he joined the Yankees, from the exact details of his escape from Cuba to his seemingly mutable facility with the English language. The most persistent mystery though, remains his actual age. Since leaving Cuba, Hernandez has maintained that he was born on October 11, 1969, which would have made him 31 at the start of the 2001 season. Court records in Havana, however, indicate otherwise. According to documents relating to his divorce from his ex-wife Norma, Hernandez was born in 1965, meaning he might be as much as four years older than he told the Yankees. from USATODAY last year: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/bbw/2002-02...-cover-side.htm Orlando Hernandez, RHP Opening Day Age: 32 (officially, at least. We think he's closer to 36.) if you look at his declining durability and injury problems, i don't find it hard to believe that he really is a 38-year-old. he missed all of last season with shoulder trouble, and i have serious questions about how effective he could be in 2004.
December 22, 200322 yr People, let me just say that I saw Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez pitch for the first time when I was 8 or 9 years old. The guy started at the age of 18 or 19 in Cuban baseball. I am 28 right now, so you do the math... 38 would seem a pretty good bet. I also saw Livan's debut in Cuba and he didn't last 4 innings, my old hometown team pulverized him in the fifth so bad... Going back to the topic, it would be a good thing if we can sign him cheap and then use him as our long reliever. The guy is old but he knows a world about pitching and that always helps. However, I would also love to have Redman back... thanks, I told ya guys so!
December 22, 200322 yr When El Duque is able to stay healthy he's as good as any pitcher in baseball, his problem is that he usually can't keep healthy for more than 3 games at a time. He's close to 40 and he's arm was greatly abused in Cuba. I remembered him pitching the 7th game of the 1994 cuban championship serios on 2 days rest. I think at this point in his carreer he can become a closer and be a domminant one for a few years. I would have to agree with you. He's very deceptive, and without the wear and tear, would make a fine closer. He will probably cost a couple million though. And sadly, you have benitez... :lol
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