On 4/12/2025 at 9:24 AM, Das Texan said:

Its a Ford.

Checks out. Love the Bronco.

Wouldnt want one for more than 90 days however. Quite happy back with Toyota. The way I see everday vehicles, they are simply tools for getting where you need to go. You can either goto Harbor Freight and get the cheapest tools that will not last or you can spend some extra money and get the big brands that will last forever.

Though Audi's are sweet.

lol. I had my '09 Ford Flex for 13 years with nothing but routine maintenance, and still looked brand new when I sold it.

Also, the "tool for getting where you need to go" view is why we have a sea of boring 50 shades of gray cars now

On 4/14/2025 at 7:53 AM, rmc523 said:

lol. I had my '09 Ford Flex for 13 years with nothing but routine maintenance, and still looked brand new when I sold it.

Also, the "tool for getting where you need to go" view is why we have a sea of boring 50 shades of gray cars now

shrug who cares if thats the intended purpose.

And I'm just going by some of the reports and first hand accounts regarding the Bronco.

Ford, General Motors and whatever Dodge calls themselves now are really only American in headquarters location only these days and has been for quite a while.

10 minutes ago, Das Texan said:

shrug who cares if thats the intended purpose.

And I'm just going by some of the reports and first hand accounts regarding the Bronco.

Ford, General Motors and whatever Dodge calls themselves now are really only American in headquarters location only these days and has been for quite a while.

Mine has been just fine going on 3 years now.

Ford and GM are still American owned/based, but obviously have a global footprint. Your statement is only true for Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/Ram......they're owned by Stellantis, which is Euro based.

10 minutes ago, rmc523 said:

Mine has been just fine going on 3 years now.

Ford and GM are still American owned/based, but obviously have a global footprint. Your statement is only true for Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep/Ram......they're owned by Stellantis, which is Euro based.

I"m talking about in terms of % of the cars actually made in America.

3 hours ago, Das Texan said:

I"m talking about in terms of % of the cars actually made in America.

I know Honda and Subaru have at least one plant each here in the U.S. - or they used to a few years ago anyway. Subaru was in Indiana and Honda was in Ohio. I don't know if they assembled the entire vehicle there or just certain parts were added on though. My Subaru has a small sticker that said it was assembled in Indiana and my last boss worked on an assembly line for Honda and he lives in Ohio as far as what i'm basing these assumptions off of.

23 minutes ago, hovertical said:

I know Honda and Subaru have at least one plant each here in the U.S. - or they used to a few years ago anyway. Subaru was in Indiana and Honda was in Ohio. I don't know if they assembled the entire vehicle there or just certain parts were added on though. My Subaru has a small sticker that said it was assembled in Indiana and my last boss worked on an assembly line for Honda and he lives in Ohio as far as what i'm basing these assumptions off of.

Yeah.. surprisingly a lot of Asian and other global brands are assembled here in US or Mexico even.

Toyota/Lexus makes a lot of cars in Kentucky. Actually most of the Camry, RAV4, Toyota Avalon and Lexus ES you see around you are actually assembled in Kentucky.

Fun fact if you look at a car’s vin number if it begins with the letter J it was assembled in Japan, K for Korea etc.

If it begins with a 1, 4 or 5 it was assembled in US. Most Toyotas I see for sale usually begin with the number 4. Occasionally I will see a Toyota beginning with J. But nowadays it’s mainly US assembled Toyotas around.

The one car brand that I’ve noticed that almost all models are still currently made in Japan is Mazda.

Definitely if I were to buy a used car I would exclusively pick a Toyota or Honda. Still always have a chance of getting a lemon but higher overall chance of still getting a decent used car if I pick a boring Camry or Corolla. And for me a boring and predictable car that will get me from point a to b consistently without falling apart all the time is what I would pick everytime. I’m not a big car guy obviously but yeah I’m all about practical use of car as means of transportation that will last a long time with basic maintenance. If the engine is solid as a rock and good transmission, I can handle the other wear and tear issues like brakes other stuff easily!

9 minutes ago, SirFishFan said:

Yeah.. surprisingly a lot of Asian and other global brands are assembled here in US or Mexico even.

Toyota/Lexus makes a lot of cars in Kentucky. Actually most of the Camry, RAV4, Toyota Avalon and Lexus ES you see around you are actually assembled in Kentucky.

Fun fact if you look at a car’s vin number if it begins with the letter J it was assembled in Japan, K for Korea etc.

If it begins with a 1, 4 or 5 it was assembled in US. Most Toyotas I see for sale usually begin with the number 4. Occasionally I will see a Toyota beginning with J. But nowadays it’s mainly US assembled Toyotas around.

The one car brand that I’ve noticed that almost all models are still currently made in Japan is Mazda.

Definitely if I were to buy a used car I would exclusively pick a Toyota or Honda. Still always have a chance of getting a lemon but higher overall chance of still getting a decent used car if I pick a boring Camry or Corolla. And for me a boring and predictable car that will get me from point a to b consistently without falling apart all the time is what I would pick everytime. I’m not a big car guy obviously but yeah I’m all about practical use of car as means of transportation that will last a long time with basic maintenance. If the engine is solid as a rock and good transmission, I can handle the other wear and tear issues like brakes other stuff easily!

I've heard a lot of shit about Honda recently (as in the last 5-6 years) in terms of going downhill versus what they used to be - Toyota still seems to be the "Reliability" choice though (unsurprisingly Lexus, which is Toyota's luxury label, is also the cheapest and most reliable luxury line)

Edited April 16Apr 16 by hovertical

14 hours ago, hovertical said:

I've heard a lot of shit about Honda recently (as in the last 5-6 years) in terms of going downhill versus what they used to be - Toyota still seems to be the "Reliability" choice though (unsurprisingly Lexus, which is Toyota's luxury label, is also the cheapest and most reliable luxury line)

Toyota has also been coasting on reputation for a while too - they're still good, but a lot of their reliability success was because they barely changed things under the skin for years, even decades at a time on certain products. They've had some big problems on a few vehicles that they've fully redesigned (skin and underneath) for the first time in 10+ years

Also, reality is with the reliability reports, the gap between the best and the worst IIRC is only 1 or 2 problems per 100, so while on paper it looks like a dramatic gap between everyone, the reality is most vehicles are pretty reliable today.