8 minutes ago, pollythewog said:

He’s already been worth 6 WAR and he’ll probably get them another 5-6 this year in next. If he makes any slight adjustments he’ll be in cy young convo. We have a utility IF from his tree ready in 2030 and a Chris paddack with 91mph fastball at least

Regret incoming for Philly. You heard it here first.

Marlins have one of the best rotations in the league but they don't want to spend ....

Sandy, Eury, Luzardo, Cabrera and Weathers.

6 hours ago, TaiwanMarlins said:

Marlins have one of the best rotations in the league but they don't want to spend ....

Sandy, Eury, Luzardo, Cabrera and Weathers.

Injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history

7 hours ago, Michael said:

Injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history

Everyone knows it's a gamble, just see what happened to Luzardo after trade, he's healthy with Phillies.

Edited March 11Mar 11 by TaiwanMarlins

They would trade all the costly players no matter have the injury issue or not, the "salary floor " would be our last hope.

Edited March 11Mar 11 by TaiwanMarlins

Nardi pitched yesterday for the first time in forever. 1ip, 3k's.

5 hours ago, TheMarlinsProject said:

Nardi pitched yesterday for the first time in forever. 1ip, 3k's.

Really good to see him back and sorely needed

35 minutes ago, pollythewog said:

Really good to see him back and sorely needed

NO we don't want to see him sore!

2 hours ago, Michael said:

NO we don't want to see him sore!

I’m sure he’s a little sore from pitching for first time in so long!

What was even his injury? Did they reveal it?

On 3/10/2026 at 4:58 PM, Michael said:

Injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history, injury history

So what does this tell you? What is the common denominator?

2 hours ago, farmer_fran said:

So what does this tell you? What is the common denominator?

Pitchers get hurt all the time.

Pitch throw hard too often, pitch go ow.

Also it's so fucking hot when you talk math to me.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2026/03/marlins-adam-mazur-elbow-surgery-miss-2026-season.html

On 3/11/2026 at 10:42 PM, Michael said:

Pitchers get hurt all the time.

Pitch throw hard too often, pitch go ow.

Also it's so fucking hot when you talk math to me.

Pitchers don't get hurt at the rate Marlins Pitchers get hurt.

This is data from last year, doesn't specify pitchers.

2025 Team Potential Injury Loss (ZiPS)

Team	Potential WAR Loss
Houston Astros	17.6
Baltimore Orioles	17.0
Los Angeles Dodgers	15.2
Boston Red Sox	14.4
Atlanta Braves	14.2
Arizona Diamondbacks	11.9
Toronto Blue Jays	11.3
New York Mets	11.2
San Diego Padres	10.5
Milwaukee Brewers	10.0
Tampa Bay Rays	9.8
Miami Marlins	9.6
Detroit Tigers	9.6
New York Yankees	9.6
Cincinnati Reds	9.1
Texas Rangers	8.8
Pittsburgh Pirates	8.7
Seattle Mariners	8.5
Kansas City Royals	7.9
Athletics	7.7
Chicago Cubs	7.3
Minnesota Twins	7.2
Cleveland Guardians	6.4
Chicago White Sox	6.4
Washington Nationals	6.4
Philadelphia Phillies	5.3
Colorado Rockies	5.2
Los Angeles Angels	4.8
St. Louis Cardinals	4.4
San Francisco Giants	4.3

Here is some AI info:

Key Tommy John Surgery Data:

• League Prevalence: 35.3% of active pitchers in 2023.

• Historical Trend: Surgeries rose from 27.4% in 2016 to over 35% in 2023.

• Team Average: Approximately 1.3 surgeries per team per year.

• High-Risk Scenarios: The probability of a single team experiencing 6 or more surgeries in a season is about 0.22%.

• Success Rate: Over 86% of pitchers return to their previous competition level.

  MLB.com +3

The rise in surgeries is generally attributed to increased pitch velocity and high-intensity, maximum-effort throwing.

Yale School of Medicine

Another source says an average of 4.7 pitching injuries per year.

Data suggests the Marlins are league average or slightly above average.

Max velocity and the pitch clock are contributing factors and injuries as well as elbow injuries are increasing every year. Adding in minors and high school/college, pitchers getting Tommy John surgery at least once is rapidly approaching 50%.

The Rays had a max velocity strategy which resulted in a lot of pitching injuries and that philosophy has carried over with the transfer of management.

The Dodgers and Astros actually have the most pitcher injuries in the last few years. However, both teams and the Dodgers in particular, have a lot of depth.

Teams are going 10 deep on starting pitchers now anticipating injuries.

Sandy, Eury, Braxton, Max, and Paddack (2) have all had elbow surgery

Ronny, Mazur, and Dax Fulton (2) as well.

Luzardo had one in HS and had other elbow injuries. Cabrera hasn't but had a sprained UCL, along with lots and lots of blisters.

So we have definitely our fair share and it would be fair to say we are above the league average.

Good stuff dude.

I know it’s spring but morel looks exactly as expected. Really dumb signing

6 hours ago, pollythewog said:

I know it’s spring but morel looks exactly as expected. Really dumb signing

Calling O's for Ryan Mountcastle.

Edited March 15Mar 15 by TaiwanMarlins

Absolutely crazy to me that Bruce Sherman can see the atmosphere and excitement of the WBC in his stadium, in the city of Miami and still be like, "No, I'm content to have a bottom 3 payroll every year and see what happens."

On 3/14/2026 at 11:17 PM, farmer_fran said:

Absolutely crazy to me that Bruce Sherman can see the atmosphere and excitement of the WBC in his stadium, in the city of Miami and still be like, "No, I'm content to have a bottom 3 payroll every year and see what happens."

I don't think he cares about that type of thing.

Marlins Option Joe Mack, Ryan Gusto - MLB Trade Rumors

On 2/27/2026 at 11:55 AM, Michael said:

So no big deal, really?

Yankees fans have already turned on weathers after his last few terrible starts

1 hour ago, pollythewog said:

Yankees fans have already turned on weathers after his last few terrible starts

So you're saying they're not fair-weathers fans?

2 hours ago, pollythewog said:

Yankees fans have already turned on weathers after his last few terrible starts

Therefore, I must quote from my favorite President, Abraham Lincoln (Whitest Kids U Know Edition):

"Suck my Presidential cock, bitch!"